Lost me v Wolves at home last season.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Bit of a punt.
Did well at Dortmund but then fell out with everyone.
His handling of the City home game last season done it for me. (Alongside the terrible run of results to end the season).
Yeah. But any lift we get will be tempered by the fact that the grub that hired then fired him is still stinking the fucking joint out.
Is there where i passive aggressively say “so you want us to lose now do you?”
I wonder if we beat Wolves and lost to Newcastle, how many of the crew of manager sackers would prefer we lost to the scum if it meant the manager got sacked?
His lack of a backroom staff has never sat well with me. I simply don't understand how you can come to the PL and rely on coaches who have never worked with you before, to drill the players on your philosophy and patterns etc. It might work in third rate leagues but definitely not in the PL. I want to see Spurs employ best in class and that also means I want to see a manager with a dedicated specialist coaching team, I mean I can't even believe we have to talk about it, it's usually a prerequisite.
It just reeks amateur hour. Ange just reeks amateur hour. I've called him a few words but in reality there's no need to get vitriolic about him, I just want to see him gone and I will wish him the best. I am sure he's a nice man underneath the arrogance and stubbornness and gruff with the media. He is just pitifully out of his depth hand has been for a long time.
For me that Chelsea game last season was when I really wobbled and thought we have a chancer here. Alarm bells were well and truly ringing and nothing I saw as last season progressed changed my mind. He should have been sacked in the summer, that was a mistake and I am sure the people who called me negative and a moaner won't come on here and say sorry you were right about Ange. The club no doubt let Ange down in the summer with our woeful window, I was even more sure at that point that our season would be a disaster. But was told three teenagers were all going to be world class and should stop moaning. But some us called this so early, it makes me question again the type of clowns actually getting paid well at the club to run the football side. Despite the club fucking up the summer window, it still doesn't mean you back the wrong man, and Ange definitely isn't the right man. We are as big a mess I can remember seeing, as far back as the 90s.
I think he's dug himself into a hole and can't back down now. He's become a parody of himself, but what annoys me is it feels like the club has become a playground for Ange's ego and an experiment, and sorry that isn't acceptable. He just doubles down despite alarming results.
He got promoted well above his station, should absolutely never have been hired, and what it does show is there is genuinely levels to this management business.
You can see in Europe when he comes up against proper teams, he gets tonked. His system plainly doesn't work at the top level and fuck the club for even thinking it was possible.
It just reeks amateur hour. Ange just reeks amateur hour. I've called him a few words but in reality there's no need to get vitriolic about him, I just want to see him gone and I will wish him the best. I am sure he's a nice man underneath the arrogance and stubbornness and gruff with the media. He is just pitifully out of his depth hand has been for a long time.
For me that Chelsea game last season was when I really wobbled and thought we have a chancer here. Alarm bells were well and truly ringing and nothing I saw as last season progressed changed my mind. He should have been sacked in the summer, that was a mistake and I am sure the people who called me negative and a moaner won't come on here and say sorry you were right about Ange. The club no doubt let Ange down in the summer with our woeful window, I was even more sure at that point that our season would be a disaster. But was told three teenagers were all going to be world class and should stop moaning. But some us called this so early, it makes me question again the type of clowns actually getting paid well at the club to run the football side. Despite the club fucking up the summer window, it still doesn't mean you back the wrong man, and Ange definitely isn't the right man. We are as big a mess I can remember seeing, as far back as the 90s.
I think he's dug himself into a hole and can't back down now. He's become a parody of himself, but what annoys me is it feels like the club has become a playground for Ange's ego and an experiment, and sorry that isn't acceptable. He just doubles down despite alarming results.
He got promoted well above his station, should absolutely never have been hired, and what it does show is there is genuinely levels to this management business.
You can see in Europe when he comes up against proper teams, he gets tonked. His system plainly doesn't work at the top level and fuck the club for even thinking it was possible.
yep, just have to hope law of averages they are going to get lucky at some point. right now ill take anyone over this guy. this has been the worst 12+ months of being a spurs fan that i can remember.
to be fair, there is none. hes not anywhere near a level where he needs a specialised coaching setup. its what an 8 year old would come up with on a football manager game.
the whole things bonkers, hes not even a football manager ffs hes a motivational speaker...
the crazy thing is, this guy actually has people following him about thinking hes special! BONKERS
levy has been sucked in by his waffle too, only idiots that dont understand football would get sucked in and we have a chairman that has proved hes clueless.
I've been watching quite a lot of Spurs content on Youtube over the Christmas break (yes I'm bored) and I'm baffled by how almost everyone of them want to stick with Ange because "there isn't anyone better out there" or "he needs to see this project trough". Maybe they are all right and I have a brain rot but I really don't get it.
"Crew of manager sackers" lol.
I wanted Jose sacked and this guy sacked. Jose because he was and is past it as a top level coach and things were never going to improve. I never wanted him hired in the first place. And this guy because he just isn't up to this level and nothing has changed my mind on him .. again, never wanted him hired in the first place. Other coaches I was more or less behind, that title makes it sound like wanting to sack coaches is some kind of addiction.
Difficult one. We hit point of no return ages ago imo, we're sticking by him out of necessity due to nobody being available. I think he's a dead man walking regardless unless we get some kind of european football, Levy will just wait till the summer to pull the trigger.
Ange Postecoglou: Spurs boss says Brighton loss 'worst defeat' of his tenure at club after second-half collapse
Tottenham lost a two-goal lead to slip to a 3-2 defeat at Brighton; Spurs suffered a stunning second-half collapse as Seagulls scored three goals in 18 minutes; Spurs boss Ange Postecoglou told Sky Sports: Thats probably the worst defeat we have had since Ive been here
It’s more than that for Levy really because he’s tried the Jose, Conte style, he’s tried the ruthless sacking of managers and now he’s gone this route and proclaimed “we’ve got our Tottenham back”.
All feeling aside for Ange the man and coach, this might be the first coach that Levy actually NEEDS to work out.
He's fucked then because with this run of fixtures (we are losing or drawing 100% to everton, brentford and Woolwich away, this squad doesn't have the tenacity to go to these places and win) we could legitimately end up being sucked in to a relegation battle if a couple of the "easier" home games don't go our way.
Levy will pull the trigger at the first sign of that even being a remote possibility imo.
I wonder what we do in training, because for sure the details aren't there on game day and we def don't train for in game management and reacting to situations. Again it's the arrogance of the man, he probably thinks his coaching team can coach to the level we need, clearly that isn't the case. It's arrogance or just incompetence.
We look appallingly coached, as bad as I have ever seen.
I saw a quote that Levy will wait until the CC Semi-Final. Usually these things read as BS but I can believe that one.
Saying that, football is never simple. We might beat Wolves and if we do, we have a decent record against Newcastle at home as well. Follow that up with another draw at the Emirates which is really just a case of defending set pieces… things could take a pretty surprising turn of events quite easily really
luckily the end is near. i think a loss tomorrow could be the final straw.
Liverpool are dumping our ass out of that cup so so easily.
That would be disastrous. Just guaranteed a shit season mired in mid table but waiting for it to get bad enough for him to be gone. I guess it would just mean ignoring the rest of this season until the summer where a manager is appointed, as no way Levy keeps on a coach after no European football and no cup win.
That's a good point tbf.
The thing is that it might work, if it were combined with a little pragmatism and just some basic fucking common sense. But it's barely organized chaos loosely tied together with philosophical threads of "always play out from the back, even with a backup keeper not comfortable with the ball at his feet" and "always play a high line, even with backup/out of position defenders not used to playing with each other" and "always attack, even when you're 2 or 3 goals up".
Spent all last year without a set piece coach, refusing to admit he'd been caught with his pants down.
Too stubborn for his own good. And after being badgered about it by the press he's just even more insistent on "proving his point".
Let him go moan at it down at the pub.