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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Kosher Kid said:
Could you send the time machine back to the point Levy sold Carrick please? :gallashmm:
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Big mistake early in the ENIC era. But "apparently" that was a Comolli decision as he felt Zokora was better.
Than Carrick.
Apparently Carrick was happy to stay if we made his pay equal to other high earners we had too.


White Van Jan said:
Also Kane and Dele got injured


we beat EFC 6-2 and then AFCB 5-0

January we were very unlucky with a 0-1 v MUFC at Wembley but after that it was pretty bad
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Lost 4-2 to Arse and 1-3 to Wolves in December 2018. The Wolves one was a stinker.
Then there was the 0-1 home loss to an Ole Man United at Wembley that was all huff and no puff. I think players were looking worn out.
Even the CL wasn't all stars snd glitter. We nearly went out in the group stage.
Billy Bob mate said:
Come on now. We can all make things up but I think from the aftermath of the Europa win, it was incredibly clear how much the players value Ange.

All interviews mentioned how his belief helped them.
The players dragged him in to the trophy lift.

Of course, some will like him more than others, but it is clear that throughout a shit league season, the players stuck by Ange and they had every confidence in him.
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I didn't say they were lying.
I question WHY they're behind him. Most players hate losing.
 
_mehstg said:
Brentford don't exactly play free flowing football.
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proves that Frank is a pragmatist and will set out to win every match he plays

His BFC team finished twice in 3rd to much bigger clubs, and were top scorers every time.

He's too smart to be a one trick pony. give him a team with scorers and he'll play accordingly.

Made Ange look in eejit in the Euro summaries. Like listening to Einstein and then Liz Truss

_mehstg said:
but what really worries me is that we did the double over them last season.
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Irrelevant. That match at theirs we totally lucked out with a 2-0.

In the home match tho I admit I was surprised at their tactics, felt they played into our hands.

But the tables don't lie - getting BFC to 9th and 10th with the lowest wage bill in the PL is a fantastic acheivment. They fell away badly in the Toney betting season, and they also had 11 players going in for operations, but they were never in danger of going down.
 
Doom Funk said:
Cauliflowers fluffy and cabbages green
Strawberries are sweeter than any I've seen
Beetroots purple and onions white
All grow steadily day and night
The apples are ripe, the plums are red
The broadbeans are sleepin' in a blankety bed
Blackberries are juicy and rhubards are sour
Marrows are fattening hour by hour
Gooseberries hairy and lettuces fat
Radishes round and runner beans flat
The apples are ripe, the plums are red
The broadbeans are sleepin' in a blankety bed
Orangey carrots and turnips cream
Reddening tomatoes that used to be green
Brown potatoes in little heaps
Down in the darkness where the celery sleeps
The apples are ripe, the plums are red
The broadbeans are sleepin' in a blankety bed
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🤣😂😂
 
Nobody3 said:
Personally I like the idea of getting a replacement manager who has EPL experience, and has some knowledge of the opposition he is facing. At Brentford Frank has helped coach average players into good players. On paper we have a better squad than Brentford, we already have good players who Frank could turn into very good players.
Lets be honest football is a simple game played by fairly simple people, I include myself in that, most with gifted ability, I don't include myself in that!
What players need is to know exactly what is expected of them in their positional roles, and when things are not going to plan, to be told why they are not and what they need to do to correct it.
Frank seems to be a student of the game who more often than not can explain and tweak these things, then you have to rely on ability and football brain of those players.
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Frank has helped coach average players into good players? Do you have proof... was it Frank or his coaches? Were these players already good and just needed a platform to showcase their talent. There is absolutely zero proof that Frank was on the training ground doing one to one coaching. I doubt any PL manager does any of that shit anymore.
On paper we have a better squad than Brentford. Do we? Because it cost more, doesn't mean it's better. I think this is debatable. Although we did do the double over them this season which really is an issue if you think Frank is the right man for us.
Frank seems to be a student of the game who more often than not can explain and tweak these things. Not sure about that. Hasn't done much tweaking and learning against the big six in his 4 years at Brentford. PL 10 D11 L27. 21% win percentage. Pretty poor. Even Ange is at 25% against the the five other members of the so called big six.

I think Frank is a good manager for a mid table side whose only goal is to retain it's Premier League place. His football is tough to watch, industrial at best. He will be under pressure for minute one and when we are mid table after ten games he will be getting abuse from us left, right and centre.
 
White Van Jan said:
proves that Frank is a pragmatist and will set out to win every match he plays

His BFC team finished twice in 3rd to much bigger clubs, and were top scorers every time.

He's too smart to be a one trick pony. give him a team with scorers and he'll play accordingly.

Made Ange look in eejit in the Euro summaries. Like listening to Einstein and then Liz Truss



Irrelevant. That match at theirs we totally lucked out with a 2-0.

In the home match tho I admit I was surprised at their tactics, felt they played into our hands.

But the tables don't lie - getting BFC to 9th and 10th with the lowest wage bill in the PL is a fantastic acheivment. They fell away badly in the Toney betting season, and they also had 11 players going in for operations, but they were never in danger of going down.
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Okay I get it. Anything Ange does that is successful is irrelevant and lucky and anything Frank does that is successful is because he is a genius. PS. Ipswich had the lowest wage bill in the PL last season. Also, Brentford never play in Europe so they don't have to juggle or make difficult choices. Think Frank will bomb out the minute he can't play his full squad twice a week.
 
White Van Jan said:
proves that Frank is a pragmatist and will set out to win every match he plays

His BFC team finished twice in 3rd to much bigger clubs, and were top scorers every time.

He's too smart to be a one trick pony. give him a team with scorers and he'll play accordingly.

Made Ange look in eejit in the Euro summaries. Like listening to Einstein and then Liz Truss



Irrelevant. That match at theirs we totally lucked out with a 2-0.

In the home match tho I admit I was surprised at their tactics, felt they played into our hands.

But the tables don't lie - getting BFC to 9th and 10th with the lowest wage bill in the PL is a fantastic acheivment. They fell away badly in the Toney betting season, and they also had 11 players going in for operations, but they were never in danger of going down.
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Lol

Frank Vs Ange

P4

Ange W 3 D1 F10 A5

Mate.
 
Fattynomates said:
Yeah I'm the same, my head says if we give him another chance he will be gone by Christmas but my heart says how can we sack the manager who said he was going to win a trophy from the start and actually delivered.

Like you say though, regardless of who is in charge , the squad needs major surgery this window , serious investment is needed
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I'm not sure he'll be gone by Christmas. People think he'll either be successful in a big way or fall on his face. I think there's a middle ground where he stays, has Spurs around 6th or 7th and this whole corrosive debate over him just continues. I can see another season like the first two-all about Ange.
 
Billy Bob mate said:
I dunno the figures but I think we all agree that we need a different type of player now.

If you keep Ange, you don't buy exclusively youth prospects for next season. He's said himself...it's now about adding experience.

That's how he needs to be backed if they're gonna keep him.
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I’ll rarely say that we spend the money wisely so take your point!
 
Aphex said:
Prof the gestapo boss from COYS says:

I’ve had several sources tell me that DL is making the decision on Ange and others tell me that he’s told VV to make that call.
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Most of them expect a decision to be made by the end of this week, though we may not hear what that decision was until next week.

Multiple sources say we’ve been unofficially talking to Frank’s reps and have agreed an outline of the contract parameters, in case the decision is made to part with Ange.
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Pretty sure on there they called Slot being courted by us well before it was in the media. Interesting though, so thanks for passing on. I rarely go on there any more as it is such a dying forum. Almost seems like they dont want you to post, it is bizarre!
 
Dudski said:
I'm not sure he'll be gone by Christmas. People think he'll either be successful in a big way or fall on his face. I think there's a middle ground where he stays, has Spurs around 6th or 7th and this whole corrosive debate over him just continues. I can see another season like the first two-all about Ange.
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All about Ange takes the pressure off our low wage players who are being asked to achieve the same as players at clubs where they are getting double or triple the salary.


All about Ange is probably part of the reason they respect him so much. He took the pressure to win on his shoulders.
 
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