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Other than finishing 7 places above us on a fraction of the budget!
There's no circumstance where Ange should keep the job by default. He lost 22 games and finished 17th.
One spell we haven't litigated to death on here were the four straight games at the end of his first season against Newcastle, Woolwich, Chelsea and Liverpool. In the thick of the top four race, not in any other competitions, and had Van de Ven, Romero and Vicario for all four.
Oh, the ironing.
Great comeback... I will try one last time... what do you think Frank will do in his first season not what you hope he will do what do you think he will do and what evidence can you provide to support that... try to be insightful, lucid, intelligent rather than... well the opposite of those things.
On paper, our PL managerial record seems (from my recollections certainly) to be terrible when hiring someone who's never managed in the PL (thinking Gross, Santini, Ramos, Ange), and generally good when it is some kind of perceived underwhelming option (Jol [partial outlier from the previous], Redknapp, Poch) and a car crash overall when trying for the 'exciting' options (AVB, Mourinho, Conte).
It's a cult. Deny the truth that is evident and established. Rubbish any alternative, over inflate the achievements of our chosen one and overlook the multiple data points that if given longer he will cause the club real harm. I admire the people still bothering to contend them, but it's a waste of time. At this point they may as well be that newsreader on North Korean state television. When Postecoglou is replaced all these heroes of the upside and positivity will be queuing up to kick the new coach at every turn because their man was 'better'.
You seem to only want a coach who will guarantee us a title.
No one calls Ange a flat track bully, but that narrative is there to be made, and would tie to his success in lesser leagues.
apologies if i've lumped you in with the ange dead enders unfairly. honestly if ange didn't have so many people blindly defending him he'd get a lot less vitriol.
Good post Malibu, I think we are saying the same things... Ange does need to go but we need an upgrade. I don't believe Frank is that... I see him as a safe pair of hands to help us avoid being dragged into a relegation scrap. I don't think his football is entertaining, it's more practical and industrious. We will not compete at all next season with him in charge. We will finish lower top half at best, knocked out in the Champions League groups stages or we might scrimp into that playoff round and then get booted out, plus early exits from both domestic cups. That's the limit of what Frank can do. We should have been talking to Simone Inzaghi before the Saudi's got him or maybe tried to convince Xavi to take the gig. Hoeness is a great shout. Just won the German Cup but has recently extended his contract so might be difficult to prize him away from Stuttgart. So many better options befitting of our club but we plump for Frank. Underwhelming and doomed to end in failure.
I want a coach who knows how to win. Winning breeds more winning.
I don't want to keep Ange... next...
Good.
