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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Is it just me or is anyone else feeling deja vu with this post...?
Oh yes, from the Thomas Frank thread:
Oh dear... I think we can all agree we hope and pray
JDefoe
's piercing insights work out a bit better this time 
Wonder what led me to that conclusion...
Not to pick on
JDefoe
(because you can find similar trajectories amongst all Deranger posts as this season has unfolded) but just read through these and see if you can spot the bit they just can't apply rationally.
Almost every single Deranger says this bit in bold eventually.
They all eventually realise exactly what I kept telling/warning them about last season: it's not the Manager it's the injuries and the low quality squad.
But for whatever bizarre reason they just won't apply this brief moment of clarity when it comes to Postecoglou. It really is incredibly bizarre and interesting. They are literally Deranged.
So weird.
JDefoe
(because you can find similar trajectories amongst all Deranger posts as this season has unfolded) but just read through these and see if you can spot the bit they just can't apply rationally.Almost every single Deranger says this bit in bold eventually.
They all eventually realise exactly what I kept telling/warning them about last season: it's not the Manager it's the injuries and the low quality squad.
But for whatever bizarre reason they just won't apply this brief moment of clarity when it comes to Postecoglou. It really is incredibly bizarre and interesting. They are literally Deranged.
So weird.
Is it just me or is anyone else feeling deja vu with this post...?
Oh yes, from the Thomas Frank thread:
Oh dear... I think we can all agree we hope and pray
The absolutely audacity to come in and say this in here when he posted that nonsense about Frank
The absolutely audacity to come in and say this in here when he posted that nonsense about Frank
I mean it's fine to be up and about for a new manager - new broom and all that.
What I find fascinating is that when it all goes tits up and they have to face the stone cold reality that their position on the previous manager was just basically wrong - they can't admit it. They won't. Despite saying as much themselves as I highlighted in my previous post.
Fascinating stuff.
We need someone who actually gives a monkeys about developing players, that's for sure.
Perhaps at Celtic where your tea money is more than some clubs' wage bill you can get by with "my system is infallible if you just do it"
Ange was awful. Arguably dealt with fewer injuries than Frank as well funnily enough (though Frank was also a failure). I stand by every single piece of Ange critique I’ve ever posted on the site because every word of it was true. Sure I had hope for Frank and I was wrong about that. What I was never wrong about was how awful Ange was.Is it just me or is anyone else feeling deja vu with this post...?
Oh yes, from the Thomas Frank thread:
Oh dear... I think we can all agree we hope and pray
And we'd already have been safe last year with only the number of points Frank collected. Ange would have had us in a relegation scrap with this year's bottom 3
Another case in point:
"No one could get a tune out of these players but I really hate the guy who finished 5th with them and won a European Trophy with them, despite an unprecedented injury crisis"
It's so weird and fascinating.
Of course you do.
That's what's fascinating.
And why this thread will get to 5000 pages
No one could make these donkeys into a great squad, but a competent manager would do better than 17th place and form that would have put us in a relegation battle most years. In spite of the fact that they walked through a poor Europa field and then won a final by throwing his system off altogether.
Got to hand it to you
Phomesy
- you’re holding that torch proud and high, despite a spell in chokey.
No way I’d be able to be arsed. Well played.
Phomesy
- you’re holding that torch proud and high, despite a spell in chokey. No way I’d be able to be arsed. Well played.
That's not what you said, my friend.
You said no one could get a tune out of these players and that Frank's biggest fault was he didn't realise how shit the players were and took on the job.
You must see how insane you're behaving - but you continue to do it anyway.
Fascinating. Weird but fascinating psychological behaviour.
I’m sure you stand by all of your Ange praise as well, despite him mightily failing at Forest. I could probably pull old posts of yours around that time but I really can’t be arsed.Of course you do.
That's what's fascinating.
And why this thread will get to 5000 pages
Got to hand it to you
No way I’d be able to be arsed. Well played.
It was just a bit of fun at first - and trying to get thhe Great Man's thread to #5000
But now I'm genuinely intrigued to see how long these people can exist with two existing, completely incompatible, thought processes going on.
Frank's biggest fault was that he took on an impossible job dealing with these shit players but PostyCoglyou was a BAD MAN because he finished 5th and won a European Trophy with them.
HOW ON EARTH DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS REASONING?
It's so so weird.
Those statements are not at odds. The squad isn't capable of being great, but Ange made results worse than they had to be. An average manager would have done better. The fact that Frank is no better than Ange doesn't raise Ange's standing at all.That's not what you said, my friend.
You said no one could get a tune out of these players and that Frank's biggest fault was he didn't realise how shit the players were and took on the job.
You must see how insane you're behaving - but you continue to do it anyway.
Fascinating. Weird but fascinating psychological behaviour.
Ange doesn't belong in the PL and would never get another opportunity at a big club, one can understand why he'd take the job. Frank should have seen the evidence of Ange's years and realized this job wasn't right and waited for another opportunity, which may have come for him.
Where do you think a competent manager would potentially be able to finish with that squad?
Not in the top half, but certainly not in any relegation conversation, and we were only saved from that by the awful bottom 3 last year
No one who sees us lose 22 times and only manages 5 draws can be said to have maximized the squad's potential. Any suggestion of that is patently absurd.