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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I'm not a fan of Postecoglou's system and I didn't like his hiring. But the old saying, "In for a penny, in for a pound" applies. We've got to find out if the system works. It's an extreme approach, but that extreme nature is what is supposed to give Spurs an advantage. Once you dial back to 80% Ange Ball, it's just one more attacking system but riskier than most. Through drills, repetition, and matching the players to the system it might be the next big thing. I don't think it is, but you have to find out.
 
I'm not a fan of Postecoglou's system and I didn't like his hiring. But the old saying, "In for a penny, in for a pound" applies. We've got to find out if the system works. It's an extreme approach, but that extreme nature is what is supposed to give Spurs an advantage. Once you dial back to 80% Ange Ball, it's just one more attacking system but riskier than most. Through drills, repetition, and matching the players to the system it might be the next big thing. I don't think it is, but you have to find out.
That's a really good post, balanced and sums up so many things.
 
League goals scored against us last season:

City 5
Woolwich 5
Liverpool 5
Chelsea 6
Newcastle 5
Villa 2
United 2

It was extremely easy for most of the top teams to score against us last season. That’s 30 goals conceded in 14 matches against them.
Not sure that that's any more of a concern than the 31 goals conceded against the bottom12 clubs.

Also not particularly out of step with the rest of places 4-8:
TeamConceded vs Top 8Conceded vs Bottom 12
Aston Villa
30​
31​
Spurs
30​
31​
Chelsea
32​
31​
Newcastle
27​
35​
Man Utd
27​
31​

We need to do better defensively to move into top 3, against all clubs obviously.
 
Thought this was a great comment from the comment section explaining the rationale behind Solanke being a great fit for us.

"Comparing Solanke's positioning with Celtic's Kyogo is smart. Most English "analysts" haven't taken the time to look at Ange's previous teams, all of which required a front foot, finish in the box forward. Besart Berisha in Brisbane, Junior at Yokohama and Kyogo Furuhashi at Celtic. And when Ange was asked after a game about Kyogo's goals, he would instead reference the strikers pressing and off the ball runs. Solanke is soooo an Ange system forward."
This 100%. Solanke absolutely fits the profile he likes of an in the box forward that takes the chances he's given at a good rate that presses well.
 
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Not sure that that's any more of a concern than the 31 goals conceded against the bottom12 clubs.

Also not particularly out of step with the rest of places 4-8:
TeamConceded vs Top 8Conceded vs Bottom 12
Aston Villa
30​
31​
Spurs
30​
31​
Chelsea
32​
31​
Newcastle
27​
35​
Man Utd
27​
31​

We need to do better defensively to move into top 3, against all clubs obviously.

Oh no doubt, we were defensively dogshit last season. Everyone found it easy to score against us.

We have a huge amount of work to do if we are going to get any closer to the top 3.
 
Not expecting anything from this season other than the green chutes we saw last year. I have faith that ange is building something, but nothing in the summer has got me excited for the short term.
 
The cycle will just repeat itself then. With our dear leader and his budget, we’re not gonna accomplish anything overnight. It’s gonna take a manager time and a fair bit of luck to build something that can fight teams who are more ambitious.
Ange will need to show improvement over last seasons dip AND the same problems evident all pre-season. Otherwise it's his fault and no one elses.
I like to blame Levy for everything as much as the next next (real) fan, but if a team is getting worse by every metric, there's no point sticking.
 
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