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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I mean this is plum job and he is saying that his work up to know is what has got him here. However, he wasn’t first choice was 6th as pointed out and there wasn’t anyone else going for him whilst he was at Celtic. He now needs to show he deserves to be here rather most like Munn giving him the big up to levy.

Finished 5th last year after losing Kane.
Season before we finished 8th with Kane.

However you look at it he improved us. Losing Kane was always going to be a big season. Really we blew finishing 4th so we should have actually finished higher.
But we didn’t. Shoulda woulda coulda.

This season - 2nd season Angeball - we will win something. That’s a given. He wins stuff in his second season.
Only way we won’t know if that’s true is if levy sacks him between now and whenever.

Next 4 games what’s your points prediction? 12 doesn’t seem unrealistic. 6 should be the absolute minimum.
5 or less I think people are entitled to ask some serious questions.
Zero points then yeah sack him.

My own motto is to sit back and enjoy the ride. He’s not going to be here forever. Managers come and go and we can all moan about the next one before you know it!!
 
I thought it obvious at the time and even more so that he lost a lot of fans with his comments around that man city game. He would have been better to say nothing. We were on a poor run of form and it only compounded things in a lot of fans minds, which was and is understandable.

I remember Redknapp doing the same while chasing the England job and him saying about us hitting a glass ceiling with him and we wouldnt go past it. Lots of fans, already annoyed with his England antics were then faced with this comment, which turned out to be wrong. Instead it only highlighted his limitations.

I wonder if we are seeing the same here. Bullshit baffles brains and all that. Sometimes it is best to say nothing especially if it will annoy fans. But sometimes managers do it on purpose and sometimes they do it because they cant get their heads out of their own arses. Feels it's the latter here again as with Redknapp.
Ange didn't have his head up his arse when he rightly criticised sections of our fanbase for not supporting the team. Our toxic rivalry with Woolwich was the problem in that situation, not him. All he wanted to do was win a game of football which is what managers are supposed to do. Quite frankly, I would be a lot more concerned if Ange didn't have anything to say after what happened in the City match.

I said at the time that Ange needs to be more understanding of the North London divide and that he wouldn't survive as a Tottenham manager with a "Not interested, mate" every time Woolwich came up but I don't think that extends to throwing a match and not commenting on fans rooting for the opposing team.

One of the things I like about Ange is that he stood up for the club from day one i.e. when he showed the door to that German journalist who paraded Kane's name and number on a Bayern Munich shirt before he signed for them. Ange had only been with us for five minutes but, as far as he was concerned, we were his club and God help anyone who disrespected us.

Ange fights for the shirt and the most important thing to remember is that his criticisms of the club's failings were accompanied by a resolve to put things right which is more than can be said for Conte.

We hired Ange for his hard-core Aussie sportsmanship and that's what we got. We didn't hire him to tread on egg shells.
 
Managers should be judged on results firstly and then performances. Whatever way you look at it the league results this calender year are bad. Won 11 and Lost 10 from 25 games. We struggle to win away or beat the top 10 in general. We're 9th for a reason.

Performances have improved a bit this season, Utd was obviously very good but we're still way too vunerable and teams dont have to play well to beat us. Leicester and Newcastle were shit, as were Brighton for 45 mins and yet they took 7 pts off us. I think the next 4 league games are crucial for our season and Postecoglou. They're all winnable but can we start to show consistancy?
 
Losing to West Ham and Woolwich at home in a relatively short space of time would send the fans in to overdrive.
And rightly so.

0 wins from 8 against our 3 biggest rivals should never be acceptable. But as you rightly say, a much needed, morale boosting win against another bottom half team is thankfully the only result that seems remotely plausible.

Even Ange surely can’t fuck this one up.
 
You don’t think we are one of the favourites for the Europa League then?
Pretty much everyone in the whole ropey league table has won silverwear more frequently than us.
It's somewhat arrogant of us to assume the mantle of favourites to win something when we typically win fuck all.
We have gone out of domestic cups to worse teams than we will face in the ropey league.
Many times.
Many. Many times.
 
Ange didn't have his head up his arse when he rightly criticised sections of our fanbase for not supporting the team. Our toxic rivalry with Woolwich was the problem in that situation, not him. All he wanted to do was win a game of football which is what managers are supposed to do. Quite frankly, I would be a lot more concerned if Ange didn't have anything to say after what happened in the City match.

I said at the time that Ange needs to be more understanding of the North London divide and that he wouldn't survive as a Tottenham manager with a "Not interested, mate" every time Woolwich came up but I don't think that extends to throwing a match and not commenting on fans rooting for the opposing team.

One of the things I like about Ange is that he stood up for the club from day one i.e. when he showed the door to that German journalist who paraded Kane's name and number on a Bayern Munich shirt before he signed for them. Ange had only been with us for five minutes but, as far as he was concerned, we were his club and God help anyone who disrespected us.

Ange fights for the shirt and the most important thing to remember is that his criticisms of the club's failings were accompanied by a resolve to put things right which is more than can be said for Conte.

We hired Ange for his hard-core Aussie sportsmanship and that's what we got. We didn't hire him to tread on egg shells.

Agree with you there on your post. But he shouldn’t be picking fights with the fans. Be diplomatic. Like I intimated I didn’t have a problem with it all but lots of fans did. I don’t think he handled it well.

He basically just needs to get the team to do the talking instead of him. We don’t need to hear from him midweek doing interviews to different tv stations. Both the Optus and the sky sports ones were not necessary. No other PL coach was doing as many interviews. Club need to get a handle on it.

Play the football. Wins more games. That’s all fans want.
 
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