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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Stateside Spur said:
Is that true? Every player I mentioned has been called “fucking shite” “not good enough, get rid” “not Spurs, fuck him off” “past it, sell him” at some point this year.

I know you are a vocal supporter of getting rid of Romero but now he’s one of our best?

To be honest, I don’t think we’re far off agreeing with each other. In my original post, I said we should get our guy if there’s a specific manager out there that checks all the boxes, but I don’t believe that we can find that in the middle of the campaign. Are you of the opinion that we should drop Ange now and bring in anyone? Because I sure as fuck don’t want to be watching a Mason- led bunch the rest of the season.
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Of course it's true. Romero is easily the second best centerback at the club. You clearly lack nuance. I don't do cheer leading that seems to be you. I would happily sell Romero he has been responsible for at least five errors that led directly to goals. This doesn't negate he is still the better of two other options.Because the inane system we play .

Let's talk about Ange's players: BJ Werner Dragusin Bergvall Gray 300 million on this, and you want to keep writing cheques on the evidence of what ?Them first ten games when NONE of these winners played.

As for 'I'm afraid of Ryan Mason' the least convincing argument for inaction is ' could be worse!'

If you were actually looking at the lack of improvements in the coaching of the side, you would stop hiding behind this and address the coach we have. Iraol is better, Silva, I think Potter is better. That's the sad conclusion I've come to not from hiding behind Emerson. But by looking at the patterns of play lack of tactical periodisation, marking at set prices and corners, they scream poor coach.

I pointed lots of this stuff out when we were top under Jose and like you folk put fingers in ears and played the Daniel Levy game. Ironically I think Mourinho was short changed by him he didn't get the largesse Ange has been given.
 
kingdawson said:
you stated Spurs fans should start "living in reality" right? that we are not the Tottenham of 2017. I'm asking what in your opinion Is the reality? is the reality now that we shouldn't expect to beat the teams I've mentioned? I want to know what in your opinion is our current reality.
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The reality is that we're an inconsistent club so expect inconsistent results, that will mean losing the games we should win and winning the games we should lose from tim to time...
 
Cranston said:
Probably not.

I don’t think Daniel has any inclination to find another manager. He’ll only go if we shit the bed proper, and are lolloping around in 14th or so in January.

At the end of season, Howe and Emery might be available, alongside other options. Daniel will move then.
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Once the unrest starts to be directed at Levy himself he'll act. That's how it usually goes.

Who is next? No idea tbh. Not even sure who id really want. Change is needed at the top more than anything else. The club is Stagnant.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Thats fair enough and as much as i'd like a change i dont want it for the sake of it like bloody Ryan Mason for 3 months or Graham Potter because he's knocking around and cheap. I'd love to think we had owners that would do what Utd did with Amorim and just go balls out to get the best man regardless but...yeah.
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WE HAVE THE MONEY! If we wanted to get Alonso we could if we wanted to wait for Iraola then get in an older coach who will replace that waste of a suit lange. Forbes have us as the fifth most profitable sports team on planet earth. We could do it now we talk about Levy.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
Of course it's true. Romero is easily the second best centerback at the club. You clearly lack nuance. I don't do cheer leading that seems to be you. I would happily sell Romero he has been responsible for at least five errors that led directly to goals. This doesn't negate he is still the better of two other options.Because the inane system we play .

Let's talk about Ange's players: BJ Werner Dragusin Bergvall Gray 300 million on this, and you want to keep writing cheques on the evidence of what ?Them first ten games when NONE of these winners played.

As for 'I'm afraid of Ryan Mason' the least convincing argument for inaction is ' could be worse!'

If you were actually looking at the lack of improvements in the coaching of the side, you would stop hiding behind this and address the coach we have. Iraol is better, Silva, I think Potter is better. That's the sad conclusion I've come to not from hiding behind Emerson. But by looking at the patterns of play lack of tactical periodisation, marking at set prices and corners, they scream poor coach.

I pointed lots of this stuff out when we were top under Jose and like you folk put fingers in ears and played the Daniel Levy game. Ironically I think Mourinho was short changed by him he didn't get the largesse Ange has been given.
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If we could fire Ange and hire Iraola today, I’d do that in a heartbeat. I love what Iraola is doing with Bournemouth. The problem, and I think this is where you and I aren’t seeing eye to eye, is we cannot get that to happen right now. He isn’t leaving middle of the season and we do not have that pull no matter what some folks think of us.

You’re trying to paint me as a happy clapper Ange lover when all I’ve said is I think he’s better than what we could get right now.

My point about giving managers longer than 2-3 windows is a much larger picture, hence it was it’s own paragraph. It’s something that I felt pretty much every manager since Poch (not Nuno, awful hire) should have had but never received.
 
Stateside Spur said:
we cannot get that to happen right now. He isn’t leaving middle of the season and we do not have that pull no matter what some folks think of us.
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we could get him midseason easily. hes at bournemouth, literally waiting for a chance at a bigger club. its sad but thats how it is for them clubs and they know that.

united have just got a manger out of sporting midseason... these guys jump at the chances because they might not get them again.

why would he hang about at bournemouth who at best will finish 9th, when he could come to a club whos actually somehow favourite to win the europa league, in all cups, and has a superior squad....makes no sense to not take that.
 
daveyboy88 said:
we could get him midseason easily. hes at bournemouth, literally waiting for a chance at a bigger club. its sad but thats how it is for them clubs and they know that.

united have just got a manger out of sporting midseason... these guys jump at the chances because they might not get them again.

why would he hang about at bournemouth who at best will finish 9th, when he could come to a club whos actually somehow favourite to win the europa league, in all cups, and has a superior squad....makes no sense to not take that.
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Yeah I think that's fair. I think he'd be likely to jump at the job, spurs and Bournemouth are, or should be anyway, in different stratospheres.

But we'd be unwilling to pay his compo, or try and haggle it and he'd end up telling us to fuck off as it immediately sends the wrong message.
 
Stateside Spur said:
If we could fire Ange and hire Iraola today, I’d do that in a heartbeat. I love what Iraola is doing with Bournemouth. The problem, and I think this is where you and I aren’t seeing eye to eye, is we cannot get that to happen right now. He isn’t leaving middle of the season and we do not have that pull no matter what some folks think of us.

You’re trying to paint me as a happy clapper Ange lover when all I’ve said is I think he’s better than what we could get right now.

My point about giving managers longer than 2-3 windows is a much larger picture, hence it was it’s own paragraph. It’s something that I felt pretty much every manager since Poch (not Nuno, awful hire) should have had but never received.
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I want to stress how desperate I was for Ange to turn this all round and fix the team. I know some teenagers from Tottenham would shank me for talking about the man this way because as a man they don't come much better. They have nothing but love for him for the way he treat them on our visit. I'm gutted but I think you are wrong about the squad it's not good enough for top four but with the correct adjustment and a bit of imagination I genuinely belive it would get fifth. My fear from what I see is he isn't tactically astute enough. And lacks the humility to get a wise old head to sit beside him on the bench and point out how to adjustment.

I have not said fire him tonight. Because there isn't a long list of alternatives but Potter till seasons end would do no worse thats how badly out his depth I fear AP is. We may as well see the season out and keep hoping for the click but I'm not going to pretend it's just on Levy.
 
Stateside Spur said:
If we could fire Ange and hire Iraola today, I’d do that in a heartbeat. I love what Iraola is doing with Bournemouth. The problem, and I think this is where you and I aren’t seeing eye to eye, is we cannot get that to happen right now. He isn’t leaving middle of the season and we do not have that pull no matter what some folks think of us.

You’re trying to paint me as a happy clapper Ange lover when all I’ve said is I think he’s better than what we could get right now.

My point about giving managers longer than 2-3 windows is a much larger picture, hence it was it’s own paragraph. It’s something that I felt pretty much every manager since Poch (not Nuno, awful hire) should have had but never received.
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If Tottenham Hotspur don't have the pull to prise a manager out of fucking AFC Bournemouth then we've fallen very, VERY far, with all respect due to AFCB
 
daveyboy88 said:
we could get him midseason easily. hes at bournemouth, literally waiting for a chance at a bigger club. its sad but thats how it is for them clubs and they know that.

united have just got a manger out of sporting midseason... these guys jump at the chances because they might not get them again.

why would he hang about at bournemouth who at best will finish 9th, when he could come to a club whos actually somehow favourite to win the europa league, in all cups, and has a superior squad....makes no sense to not take that.
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He will certainly be one of the sexiest names out there come May/June where he will have many more options.

Why would he leave mid season to join a club who have given at most 18 months to a manager since 2019? This is more important than people want to give credit.
 
I’m not sure we practice defending against the break. If we do how do we explain the overloads out wide continuously every game?

Plus the players look knackered. Bournemouth and Chelsea up next. Can’t see us getting a point out of those two games.
 
I don't read anything which makes me think the board and the front office are anything less than united behind Postecoglou and his program. And, though I'm not a fan and didn't like the hire, keeping him and backing him is probably the right play. Spurs bought into a radical approach and until it is absolutely clear it can't work you've got to stand firm. Look at the number of teams around the league who are thrashing about. If to put things into context it may even be that Spurs have more stability than most at this point. Maddison's replacement is probably coming in the next transfer window as well as some depth at center back. If that goes well, the season may look better at the end than it does now.
 
Shadydan said:
The reality is that we're an inconsistent club so expect inconsistent results, that will mean losing the games we should win and winning the games we should lose from tim to time...
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Nah man...I don't buy into this bullshit. Jol Redknapp and Poch beat the teams we needed to beat most of the time in our recent history, we currently ain't doing that under Ange and it's been that way for a while

We're a club that has to punch above our weight to compete with the genuine elite clubs, we aren't doing that, but we should be the best of the rest and we ain't.
 
Skippa18 said:
Nah man...I don't buy into this bullshit. Jol Redknapp and Poch beat the teams we needed to beat most of the time in our recent history, we currently ain't doing that under Ange and it's been that way for a while

We're a club that has to punch above our weight to compete with the genuine elite clubs, we aren't doing that, but we should be the best of the rest and we ain't.
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Jol and Redknapp didn't challenge for the league and they were pre 2017 anyway which my original point was about - fans still think we're that team and think we can still strive for that, the reality is that we're not - maybe we can be with some managerial sustainability though.
 
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