Manager Ange Postecoglou

[skywalker68]

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Someone has said " we are the leagues entertainers" and they are happy with that
Lost 5 won 6, so hit and miss, who loves that some are so desperate they will cling to any old shit.

 

[TheSpurEst]

Vicario, Romero, VDV, Bentancur, Solanke, Richarlison, Odobert and Moore were the 8 players missing yesterday. 5 starters and 3 players who would have started yesterday given the fact we had a Thursday night game and are missing the other 5.

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Nice touch to add Odobert, Moore and Richie to the mix. Three players who have played whopping less than 4 full games (345 minutes this whole season in EPL).

While at such extreme excuses, maybe also add "opposition wanting to earn points" as reason what is against Ange too?
And "strong opposition" and other unique things that only haunt Ange ?

 

[Zomb]

We should go for Paul McKenna that knobhead who writes all those self help books like I can make you rich .

See if i can make you premier league champions is in his locker .

Nothing is changing no matter who we get in , finishing 7th or 9th or 10th is no big difference , even if 7th with the right domestic cup results gets ECL qualification.

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Rather employ Frank Lampard for a couple of reasons:
1) would be amusing seeing the prick get goaded from the getgo and then seeing him sacked
2) some relegation jeopardy could be amusing in a black humour way

 

[JimothyCF14]

Rather employ Frank Lampard for a couple of reasons:
1) would be amusing seeing the prick get goaded from the getgo and then seeing him sacked
2) some relegation jeopardy could be amusing in a black humour way

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Could you imagine our own fans signing "cheer up frank lampard" at our own manager from the first match to the last?

At least the fanbase would be entirely united for the first time ever

 

[Ed Vanderlay]

Could you imagine our own fans signing "cheer up frank lampard" at our own manager from the first match to the last?

At least the fanbase would be entirely united for the first time ever

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I think we were united against George Graham
Man in the raincoat’s blue and white army was a classic chant

 

[manmountainbutters]

It's on Ange 10 million on Bergvall, 40 million on Gray, he was stupid/naive enough green light 50 million on footballers who will not be EPL ready until long after he is fired. That money could have got him a full G8 international level midfielder. He's left himself crazy short and he should grow a pair and call out the owners.

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40 big ones on Gray was a bit toppy

I like Grays attitude tho. He’s a battler.

 

[manmountainbutters]

I would disagree. The bloke has proven to me he is out of his depth at this level and I see nothing that makes me believe that he can/will turn things around.I also believe had he not had the 10 game start he had to his Tottenham career that he had then he would have been gone by now.
Getting rid now and bringing in a new manager (Frank for me) would give the new guy 2 windows and a proper pre-season and 30+ games to implement his style of football.

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Lampard?

 

[erlee]

Ange is loving drawn games this season... last season- we either win or lose

 

[Incomplete_usernam]

We aren't talking about the season as a whole are we? We are discussing this specific Press conference after a game where Spurs had more than half their team out. Postecoglou hasn't brought up injuries once this season - he did this time. When:

Vicario
Romero
Van Den Ven
Bentancur
Odobert
Richarlison
Moore
Solanke

Were all unavailable due to injury, illness or suspension.

So let's not try and pretend you're not shifting the goalposts just because you were called out for an overwrought hysterical reaction to what was a perfectly normal and rational answer by any manager in this type of situation.




What on earth? How's his presser come "at the expense of the club" He's legiimately in the middle of an injury crisis. Any manager ever would say the same. Blimey!



I'm framing your criticism in this specific instance as overwrought, hysterical and lacking any sort of coherence whatsoever.

I have no problem with you wanting Ange Out or not thinking his results are good enough etc etc... He's lost football games. He's lost your trust. Fine. What I responded to was the ridiculous essay you wrote criticising his Presser like it was a personal affront to you.

And you're still acting like he personally took a dump in your cornflakes and told you to thank him for it!

He just pointed out we have loads of injuries - when we do, indeed, have loads of injuries. Any manager would do the same - especially when they are under pressure for their jobs. Chill the fuck out. He isn't rogering your sister!



What "level of protection" ffs He's 18 months into his contract.

Some people are just fucking bored of the constant sacking of managers - with no improvement from one to the next and none of whom given even a minimum amount of time to build. It's not "defending the indefensible" - it's trying to be a normal club for once. We aren't in a relegation fight and, as far as we know, he hasn't lost the dressing room.

Conte, Mourinho, Poch, AVB, Redknapp, Jol... Sack after sack after sack. It's FUCKING BORING

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I appreciate your passion for defending Postecoglou, but let’s not overlook some glaring issues here. I’ve supported Spurs for nearly 40 years, through ups and downs, and my critique isn’t born out of “hysteria” or personal affront—it’s rooted in frustration at the trajectory of the club under Ange’s management and his previous attitude toward supporters and the history with our rivals.

Firstly, the injuries listed are unfortunate but hardly unprecedented for a top-flight football team during a grueling season; most teams contend with similar challenges, yet manage to avoid trotting them out as an excuse every time results don't go their way. Ange has conveniently decided to highlight injuries in this specific press conference, despite having had plenty of opportunities earlier this season when the same "patterns of play" were evident with a largely healthy squad.

Moreover, let’s dissect the claim of "more than half the team out." Several of the players mentioned, like Richarlison, haven't been consistent starters or game-changers even when fit. Others, like Odobert, barely feature in discussions of our core squad depth. This selective framing seems more like an exercise in sympathy generation than an accurate reflection of our actual capabilities.

Calling out deflection isn’t “shifting goalposts” either mate—it’s recognizing a repeated pattern. Ange’s response wasn’t rational; it was a calculated move to redirect criticism away from his tactical missteps. Managers earn their keep by adapting under adversity, not by invoking laundry lists of absentees as a shield against scrutiny.

What's funny is, you accuse me of shifting goalposts, but your argument does exactly that. This isn’t about one press conference or one game—it’s about a broader pattern of deflection and underperformance.

Calling me “overwrought” or suggesting I feel personally attacked doesn’t invalidate my points; it just attempts to diminish them without engaging substantively.

Your nostalgia for managerial stability is noted and shared actually, I agree with you on this, but it doesn’t excuse Ange’s failures imo; Stability is meaningless if it’s built on mediocrity; Conte, Mourinho, and even Poch weren’t perfect, but they had far more justification for their stature than Ange—a journeyman with a middling CV and a tendency to court excuses when under pressure.

The constant “sacking managers is boring” argument holds no weight when the managers being defended aren’t delivering and in the case of Ange, taking us backwards.

As someone who has spent decades supporting this club, I find it galling to see the manager prioritize self-preservation over acknowledging legitimate concerns, this is an annoyance for me and something that I don't think should be tolerated, the club should always come first.

Finally, I care so deeply because this club deserves better. I’m not interested in indulging a manager who has already alienated sections of the fanbase, delivered underwhelming results, and shown little capacity for meaningful adaptation due to his undeserved ego. Spurs should aspire to more than simply avoiding a midtable scrap—we should demand accountability and ambition from everyone involved.

If Ange wants to stay and succeed, he needs to stop deflecting and start delivering.

So TLDR, if I’m guilty of calling out a manager who spends more time defending his shortcomings than fixing them, I’ll wear that badge proudly. Spurs deserve better than excuses masquerading as explanations.

 

[Pythagoras]

spurs were a losing club for decades before ange got here and they will be a losing club after ange is gone if he is sacked. conte and mourinho failed with kane in the team and son in his prime. at some point a coach has to come in and stay in the job for at least 5 years to transform the losing culture, this job needs more than a couple of transfer windows to fix . spurs fans think their team is barcelona or real madrid they are deluded.spurs are not going to be able to get the signature of world class players when they have to compete with city , bayern ,barcelona, real madrid , liverpool Woolwich psg etc which spurs player would actually start for clubs i mentioned maybe vdv thats it. i hope levy has the guts to not listen to the histrionic losing mentality spurs fans who cannot accept reality and keep ange in the job.

 

[Deuterz]

spurs were a losing club for decades before ange got here and they will be a losing club after ange is gone if he is sacked. conte and mourinho failed with kane in the team and son in his prime. at some point a coach has to come in and stay in the job for at least 5 years to transform the losing culture, this job needs more than a couple of transfer windows to fix . spurs fans think their team is barcelona or real madrid they are deluded.spurs are not going to be able to get the signature of world class players when they have to compete with city , bayern ,barcelona, real madrid , liverpool Woolwich psg etc which spurs player would actually start for clubs i mentioned maybe vdv thats it. i hope levy has the guts to not listen to the histrionic losing mentality spurs fans who cannot accept reality and keep ange in the job.

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^ Australian

 

[Hampshire Spur]

Let's face it, the summer recruitment was a bit of a disaster.
Recruiting young talent is great when the team is already set up. But the team was in free fall towards the back end of last season and hung on for 5th.
Considering the form that wasn't bad but, the team needed some good players who are ready now, we got solanke and that's it, the rest all promising youngsters.
The club had effectively has said, nah we ain't interested in competing at the top end, we are going to save money on the wage bill and then, wait 4or 5 years to see if they suddenly become good.
If any are, they will look to move away to try and be a success because success is Tottenhams enemy.

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Tbh i think Ange had the plan of intergrating the young signings slowly but surely through europa league gaining experience.. Hasnt panned out as planned. Bergvall was the sacrificial lamb when dragusin got sent off for qarabag. Felt sorry for bergvall that night. Odobert looked good but got injured. Do think hes a talent. Weve been unlucky but starting to think were cursed. Tbh romero lapses in concentration cost us earlier in season.

 

[Pythagoras]

If Ange wants to stay and succeed, he needs to stop deflecting and start delivering.

deliver what ? win the league ? tranform a decades long losing culture in one and a half years . realistically deliver what? can spurs attract world class players ? and beat bayern,barcelona,real madrid ,liverpool ,city ,Woolwich and psg for their signitures?

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[Pythagoras]

^ Australian

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was spurs a losing club for decades before ange arrived ? can spurs sign world class players when competing with city , bayern ,barcelona, real madrid , liverpool Woolwich psg for their signatures ? is it realistic to expect a coach to tranform decades long losing in one and a half years, working within the constraints of ffp ? yes im australian ,but my questions are legitimate ,answer them

 

[Hampshire Spur]

One thing I admired under Poch he started off with a clean slate. Got rid of bad eggs and got us going into a stride by late october/november. Never looked back after that. I do like way Ange handles media and is a strong petsonality but hes been here year and a half and weve not got into a consistent stride. Having said that were in all competitions. Man utd in cup is a big game for momemtum of season.

 

[Deuterz]

yes im Australian

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Man, hole in one!

FYI, we may have been a ‘losing’ club (Ange has achieved success with nobodies) but we were one of the top 10/15 teams in Europe for years under Poch, consistent top 4 in the best league on earth, CL finalists. A season before Impostercoglu arrived we were top four in the league.

Ange isn’t good enough for the club and never has been. Back to the fucking backwater nowhereville leagues after his big shot at a club that is in a league which matters.

 

[Phomesy]

I appreciate your passion for defending Postecoglou, but let’s not overlook some glaring issues here. I’ve supported Spurs for nearly 40 years, through ups and downs, and my critique isn’t born out of “hysteria” or personal affront—it’s rooted in frustration at the trajectory of the club under Ange’s management and his previous attitude toward supporters and the history with our rivals.

Firstly, the injuries listed are unfortunate but hardly unprecedented for a top-flight football team during a grueling season; most teams contend with similar challenges, yet manage to avoid trotting them out as an excuse every time results don't go their way. Ange has conveniently decided to highlight injuries in this specific press conference, despite having had plenty of opportunities earlier this season when the same "patterns of play" were evident with a largely healthy squad.

Moreover, let’s dissect the claim of "more than half the team out." Several of the players mentioned, like Richarlison, haven't been consistent starters or game-changers even when fit. Others, like Odobert, barely feature in discussions of our core squad depth. This selective framing seems more like an exercise in sympathy generation than an accurate reflection of our actual capabilities.

Calling out deflection isn’t “shifting goalposts” either mate—it’s recognizing a repeated pattern. Ange’s response wasn’t rational; it was a calculated move to redirect criticism away from his tactical missteps. Managers earn their keep by adapting under adversity, not by invoking laundry lists of absentees as a shield against scrutiny.

What's funny is, you accuse me of shifting goalposts, but your argument does exactly that. This isn’t about one press conference or one game—it’s about a broader pattern of deflection and underperformance.

Calling me “overwrought” or suggesting I feel personally attacked doesn’t invalidate my points; it just attempts to diminish them without engaging substantively.

Your nostalgia for managerial stability is noted and shared actually, I agree with you on this, but it doesn’t excuse Ange’s failures imo; Stability is meaningless if it’s built on mediocrity; Conte, Mourinho, and even Poch weren’t perfect, but they had far more justification for their stature than Ange—a journeyman with a middling CV and a tendency to court excuses when under pressure.

The constant “sacking managers is boring” argument holds no weight when the managers being defended aren’t delivering and in the case of Ange, taking us backwards.

As someone who has spent decades supporting this club, I find it galling to see the manager prioritize self-preservation over acknowledging legitimate concerns, this is an annoyance for me and something that I don't think should be tolerated, the club should always come first.

Finally, I care so deeply because this club deserves better. I’m not interested in indulging a manager who has already alienated sections of the fanbase, delivered underwhelming results, and shown little capacity for meaningful adaptation due to his undeserved ego. Spurs should aspire to more than simply avoiding a midtable scrap—we should demand accountability and ambition from everyone involved.

If Ange wants to stay and succeed, he needs to stop deflecting and start delivering.

So TLDR, if I’m guilty of calling out a manager who spends more time defending his shortcomings than fixing them, I’ll wear that badge proudly. Spurs deserve better than excuses masquerading as explanations.

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I don't understand how you can write all of this which is mostly measured and reasonable but when it comes to the core issue - the one I picked you up on originally - in bold, you still repeat the same bollocks.

Ange hasn't mentioned injuries once this season. He mentioned it in this specific presser because he'd been asked over and over why Spurs levels had dropped between the City game and the Fulham one and NOT ONE journo had thought that it might have been losing our Striker and our GK on top of the already debilitating injury list.

You wrote an entire essay lambasting him for deflection for an entirely reasonable observation. It's utterly ludicrous.And its based on ALL THE OTHER reasons you don't rate him. Those are fair enough. Your attack on him about mentioning injuries is not fair at all. And remains overwrought and hysterical.

 

[Shadydan]

overwrought and hysterical.

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Not the first time he's been called that

 

[Nobody3]

Lampard?

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Thomas!

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

was spurs a losing club for decades before ange arrived ? can spurs sign world class players when competing with city , bayern ,barcelona, real madrid , liverpool Woolwich psg for their signatures ? is it realistic to expect a coach to tranform decades long losing in one and a half years, working within the constraints of ffp ? yes im australian ,but my questions are legitimate ,answer them

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Do yourself a favour a quick Google search over the last decade will find multiple examples of players saying they would prefer to sign for Spurs over Woolwich. Dragusin chose Spurs over Bayern, as did Bergvall over Barcelona. Your questions are full of recieved wisdom and arrogance. I'm now fully bored with the nationalist groupies.