Basically whether they are back or not we are still going to be midtable. It’s not good enough.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Basically whether they are back or not we are still going to be midtable. It’s not good enough.
Exactly. Based on 2024 results, Romero/VDV are the difference between top half and bottom half. Hardly inspiring.
It’s just who we are mate!
It is no reason to persevere with him, but I suspect excuses will be made.
This is my preferred team. When all fit
Vic
Back 3 of drag/romero/VDV
2 sitters of Gray and either Lolo or Sarr with madders in front roaming and making runs and interchanging with kulu.
2 wing backs of Porro and Spence
Up to Solanke and Kulu
Good to be optimistic but I'm 99.9% sure those 2 wins ain't gonna happen under Ange!
The drop from 2.6ppg to 2.0ppg is the same as 2.0ppg to 1.4ppg which is where we are this season.
We are literally getting worse.
2.6ppg over a season is a title win at 99 points
2.0 ppg is comfortable top 4 finish at 72 points
We got 63 points. 1.65ppg last season
It's just going down. And down. And down.
There is no stat that proves Ange deserves to carry on a single day.
Not one.
This season our PPG is at 1.26ppg
Ryan Mason in his 13 games got 1.46ppg
Man it's a new year...can you not allow them just a moments joy and hope? I honestly thought this fraud would be gone by now. Thus making things like formation changes feasible again. But it's clear Levy no longer even pretends to give a f**kind!
I would love to be a fly on the wall at the club right now; I just can't fathom what is happening behind the scenes that has allowed Ange to command so much confidence from the powers that be. This is the same club that gave Nuno the boot the second the wheels fell off.
If i look a few years into the future we could have Moore, Gray, Bergvall, Lankshear, Odobert, Yang , Hall, maybe a few more as potential starters. I'm a bit worried that Ange is slowing down their football education and therefore their development by playing his one dimensional form of football. Plus he hardly plays them (with the exception of gray).
Agreed, though I've only seen enough of Moore, Gray and Bergvall to believe there is real PL potential there. Rest are TBC.
but... but... but ... injuries ...!!!
oh wait, Head Coach on £5m pa ... who have you employed in your medical and coaching team?????
He’s blinded levy with his bullshit baffles brains chat I suspect like lots of fans have fallen for (including myself early doors).
2 possibles imo. Firstly and most likely is the potential investment. If it happens whoever buys a stake will likely want a say on next manager and that is perfect for Levy to hide behind for another sacking. We spent a summer cutting the wage bill so he's probably reluctant to spend another £5m paying off the coaching staff.
Second, he has made a pigs ear of the last few appointments with managers turning us down left, right and centre and he just hasnt got a clue what to do next and in an ideal world would wait until there is an improved managerial market in the summer.
There is no way they have faith in Ange to turn it around, they are seeing what we're seeing. Basically he is an interim until something turns up or falls in our lap. We're so bad they wont get their wish to drag it out until the summer.
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Both very possible. Struggle a bit more with the first scenario as it implies Levy giving up control, but possibly he's offering some bullshit of "working with" the minority investor to identify the right management team etc etc., and that wouldn't be credible with Ange gone and a new coach in.
Yes, but the t-shirts would be magnificent.
Just a thought, but I wonder if one of the reasons we have refrained from sacking Ange is because we want to convey an image of stability to prospective signings.
If we had sacked him before Xmas, all the players we were talking to would have opted to go elswhere if the manager they had been speaking to, suddenly left. Because Ange would have obviously been telling these players how he sees them fitting into his plans etc
I am not saying it's the main reason but I definitely think it's an important consideration. I believe the club have probably earmarked mid to late January as the decision on Ange's future.
By then it will be clear to everyone if he has managed to change our fortunes, if he hasn't we will be in a relegation battle and the club will have to sack him. We will have played Newcastle, Liverpool, Tamworth, Woolwich, Everton and possibly even Toffenheim.
If things haven't markedly improved, and by then we should have any new signings through the door, the club will be able to sack him without it affecting our transfer business.
And I do think the clubs priority right now, is to bring players in, above sacking Ange. It makes little point if he goes this week or in two weeks.
If we had sacked him before Xmas, all the players we were talking to would have opted to go elswhere if the manager they had been speaking to, suddenly left. Because Ange would have obviously been telling these players how he sees them fitting into his plans etc
I am not saying it's the main reason but I definitely think it's an important consideration. I believe the club have probably earmarked mid to late January as the decision on Ange's future.
By then it will be clear to everyone if he has managed to change our fortunes, if he hasn't we will be in a relegation battle and the club will have to sack him. We will have played Newcastle, Liverpool, Tamworth, Woolwich, Everton and possibly even Toffenheim.
If things haven't markedly improved, and by then we should have any new signings through the door, the club will be able to sack him without it affecting our transfer business.
And I do think the clubs priority right now, is to bring players in, above sacking Ange. It makes little point if he goes this week or in two weeks.
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You're manipulating a conversation to make a point that has nothing to do with what I was discussing.
what sort of player would want to come and play under this mug in the first place. id stay well clear of any players happy to do that after what weve seen over the last year, theyd have to be proper idiots.
