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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Shadydan said:
Brilliant an example, comparing a business spending more money which they can afford to do to killing a celebrity, potentially getting thrown in jail and risking your life, wonderful.
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If you can't tell I wasn't being serious then you're obviously thick as pig shit.

Also your point doesn't actually make sense. Firstly if you can't understand that a business can have a goal to achieve something without putting in the necessary ground work to do so then that's up to you. I'm pretty sure every football club in the world wants to win something ffs. That might not be every football clubs realistic goal....but they all "want to win something".

Interesting that you mention a football club "spending more money". Enic can respond with that by saying "we have spent the 4th highest in the league and the 2nd highest net spend since the manager has been brought in" and you wouldn't be able to say a single thing back to them in regards to a "business spending more money". I'm pretty sure they were expecting a better return.
 
Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou on what he puts down the amount of injuries his team are suffering to: "I think it is probably a combination of different things. The amount of fixtures, the way we play. I guess the challenging thing for us is that quite a few of our injuries have been re-injuries which is something we're looking at. I don't think it is unique to us. I think you see it across the board with clubs but we've been hit sort of more extreme. [Guglielmo] Vicario, his isn't a muscle injury - his is long-term but that kind of exasperates the situation we are in."

On whether he would change his style in a bid to reduce injuries: "There is always the opportunity to change and the one constant with me is that I'm not going to in terms of my beliefs but there is always the reason to change and there is always the opportunity to change for everybody. I guess it just comes down to how much you believe in what you're doing and how much you believe what you're doing will bring you success."

Still doesn’t sound like he’s going to do anything differently, even though he admits his football is part of the reason for the injuries. He talks about an “opportunity” to change but then returns to the same snide and stubborn answer as always.
 
kingdawson said:
If you can't tell I wasn't being serious then you're obviously thick as pig shit.

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I'm not really interested in your mental gymnastics, you used a shit example because you're just desperate to argue the toss, boring.

The point is that ENIC have the means to turn this club's fortunes around simply by following a simple model of increasing the wage bill to match our rivals - BTW wages are the biggest indicator of success not money spent, do some reading:

www.beautifulgamegroup.com

Identifying the Verticals and Metrics That Contribute to Sustained Success in High Performance Sport

For an organization to achieve long term & sustainable development, it must consider economic, environmental, cultural & social factors
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We currently have the 7th highest wage bill in the most competitive league in the world so how does that translate to wanting success?

I don't know why you're making excuses for them and this is coming from me by the way, it seems like you're the only person in this fanbase using stupid fucking corporate terms like goals and objectives

Such a dumb argument.
 
Shadydan said:
I'm not really interested in your mental gymnastics, you used a shit example because you're just desperate to argue the toss, boring.

The point is that ENIC have the means to turn this club's fortunes around simply by following a simple model of increasing the wage bill to match our rivals - BTW wages are the biggest indicator of success not money spent, do some reading:

www.beautifulgamegroup.com

Identifying the Verticals and Metrics That Contribute to Sustained Success in High Performance Sport

For an organization to achieve long term & sustainable development, it must consider economic, environmental, cultural & social factors
www.beautifulgamegroup.com www.beautifulgamegroup.com


We currently have the 7th highest wage bill in the most competitive league in the world so how does that translate to wanting success?

I don't know why you're making excuses for them and this is coming from me by the way, it seems like you're the only person in this fanbase using stupid fucking corporate terms like goals and objectives

Such a dumb argument.
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point me to a post you have stated wages is the biggest indicator of success prior to our manager being appointed. This could very well be true but I've absolutely noticed certain posters have only started mentioning this when the argument about net/money spent can not be used anymore during the current managers tenure.

Like I've always said, I think Enic have never ever backed previous managers historically but I don't attempt to move the goalposts when they finally do.
 
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Finally, Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou assesses 2024: "2024 included us - which I know people right now don't recognise as anything - we finished fifth last year - we finished eighth the year before. People keep forgetting that. I didn't pick up a club that finished third and we finished fifth.
"Even though the back end of last year was a struggle for us, it was still a real positive season on the back of what we had to do in terms of player turnover - we lost some significant players. I enjoyed 2024, it was a big challenge for us and yes it didn't finish well but that's the case. I guess going into 2025 now, it's about making this year better than the last but that should be the aim every year."

Glad you enjoyed it Ange. Just for the record, our league results in 2024

Played 37, Won 15, Lost 16, Drawn 6. Pts 51
 
StripiestPilot said:
Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou on what he puts down the amount of injuries his team are suffering to: "I think it is probably a combination of different things. The amount of fixtures, the way we play. I guess the challenging thing for us is that quite a few of our injuries have been re-injuries which is something we're looking at. I don't think it is unique to us. I think you see it across the board with clubs but we've been hit sort of more extreme. [Guglielmo] Vicario, his isn't a muscle injury - his is long-term but that kind of exasperates the situation we are in."

On whether he would change his style in a bid to reduce injuries: "There is always the opportunity to change and the one constant with me is that I'm not going to in terms of my beliefs but there is always the reason to change and there is always the opportunity to change for everybody. I guess it just comes down to how much you believe in what you're doing and how much you believe what you're doing will bring you success."

Still doesn’t sound like he’s going to do anything differently, even though he admits his football is part of the reason for the injuries. He talks about an “opportunity” to change but then returns to the same snide and stubborn answer as always.
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talking in riddles as usual.
 
The scenario is currently hilarious.

Levy brings a team into the season that's far too thin for a PL club in all our competitions, Ange trains them into the ground, but the (likely horrifying) run of results we're about to see through the 8 games we have in January will be laid at the feet of this winter virus. As if we weren't in crisis a few days ago already

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StripiestPilot said:
Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou on what he puts down the amount of injuries his team are suffering to: "I think it is probably a combination of different things. The amount of fixtures, the way we play. I guess the challenging thing for us is that quite a few of our injuries have been re-injuries which is something we're looking at. I don't think it is unique to us. I think you see it across the board with clubs but we've been hit sort of more extreme. [Guglielmo] Vicario, his isn't a muscle injury - his is long-term but that kind of exasperates the situation we are in."

On whether he would change his style in a bid to reduce injuries: "There is always the opportunity to change and the one constant with me is that I'm not going to in terms of my beliefs but there is always the reason to change and there is always the opportunity to change for everybody. I guess it just comes down to how much you believe in what you're doing and how much you believe what you're doing will bring you success."

Still doesn’t sound like he’s going to do anything differently, even though he admits his football is part of the reason for the injuries. He talks about an “opportunity” to change but then returns to the same snide and stubborn answer as always.
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That second paragraph is just unadulterated waffle!

If all the players are getting reinjured then there this is a problem with what we are doing with their rehabilitation or are rushing them back too quickly. Just like I said before the Chelsea game kicked off with Romero and VDV.
 
I'm sure what he means in that quote is that you've got to have 11 bodies and you can only choose from those which are available, so some things will have to be modified, but only in this extreme sort of emergency.

Apart from these types of situations where you've got bag handlers flying the aircraft temporarily, he isn't going to change what he does in response to what it does to the bodies of those involved.
 
sudoku said:
Sheesh!
Give to me a break!
He is the most straightforward, honest and easy to understand manager in the modern era.

On whether he would change his style in a bid to reduce injuries:
"There is always the opportunity to change and the one constant with me is that I'm not going to."

What is puzzling about that?
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then follows it up with
but there is always the reason to change and there is always the opportunity to change for everybody.

if he just left it at the sentence you posted then fine but the next sentence opens it up again. I took it as "there are mitigating circumstances which could force me to change it" but could very well be wrong and you could be right.

That's the whole point when someone continuously talks shit, you never really know what they're trying to say.
 
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sudoku said:
Sheesh!
Give to me a break!
He is the most straightforward, honest and easy to understand manager in the modern era.

On whether he would change his style in a bid to reduce injuries:
"There is always the opportunity to change and the one constant with me is that I'm not going to."

What is puzzling about that?
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You're right, its crystal clear. Crystal clear he is a stubborn, childish, beligerent fool who you can only assume actively wants the sack and pay off now.
 

Management - Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

Probably should go all out for De Zerbi now. I can't see him taking a step down, especially as a club chasing Brighton's model.
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Before this thread existed, his name first emerged in late May 2023. Around page 720something

I know I was dead against it. I'd love to brag about how right I was, but I was also against Slot tbf.
What's interesting is that he was 3rd highest on the poll there. I wonder how many "real fans" went and changed their vote after he was linked/joined.
 
kingdawson said:
point me to a post you have stated wages is the biggest indicator of success prior to our manager being appointed. This could very well be true but I've absolutely noticed certain posters have only started mentioning this when the argument about net/money spent can not be used anymore during the current managers tenure.

Like I've always said, I think Enic have never ever backed previous managers historically but I don't attempt to move the goalposts when they finally do.
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Why does it matter whether I said it before we hired Ange or not, is this a court of law - what are we doing here?

Here's your 'evidence' anyway

Shadydan said:
Indeed, pretty sure Everton would be near Liverpool by now if it was just about spend if that were the case

There's definitely a correlation between salaries and sporting success and why wouldn't there be? It basically means you can attract the best of everything, doctors, scouts, physios, coaches, recruitment etc..
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We had this convo the other day in the ENIC thread, the word 'backed' requires context, you may point to money spent but do you think Ange would rather have Kane or the £100m he spent to replace him?
 
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