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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
WHO ELSE WAS AVAILABLE TO HIM?

Jesus Christ... I'll say it oce again - show me someone Ange TURNED DOWN in favour of BJ that is better? Until you can do that this whole discussion is fucking pointless.
Surely they knew Kane was going when Ange joined. He even himself said it that Kane told him he is off. So they had 2/3 months to look at possible targets all over the world. There were lots of wide players we could have gone for. WATTV did a top 10 of wide players and guess what BJ was not in it. He was a last minute deal bcos I guess the transfer team were lazy. How comes clubs like Brighton and Brentford can find good wide players. Even bmouth with Semenyo.
 
No, it is pretty provable.

Data is there. For all the losses we were 3 points of 3rd after the City match - where we lost Romero and Vicario and then our PPG fell off a cliff. Like sheer fall into the abyss. The next game we played was against Fulahm, Forster in goal, Davies and Dragusin at CB - no Solanke even on the bench.... Then Bournmouth and no Dragusin - Davies and Gray at CB and Davies gets injured....

Forster was not a disaster when it came to shot stopping, but in terms of building up play from the back, breaking the press, passing to players in a way that didn't leave them in trouble and with more work to do than was necessary, he is chalck and cheese to even Vicario, let alone the kind of performance Kinsky put in vs Liverpool.

Either way, like I said, the data is there. And more data is there to show how difficult it is for anyone to beat the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth etc.... Not excusing the results just saying they categorically show a huge dip in points collected since the injuries happened.

3 points behind City means fk all as it was early in the season and the table was bunched up.

Our form with our best team out at the start of the season was literally win one lose one, so how much better do you honestly think we would be? that form was still unacceptable. Do you honestly think under Ange we will go on a winning run? We haven't done it since his first 10 games which was eons ago.
 
Favourable? These are our next 6 league fixtures, I admire your confidence.


Easy 18 points there guv!!
Top 4 challenge is on!!

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Nah I totally get it- don't mean to pile on. Just sometimes feel the "what if" vibes when thinking about the dough we threw down on Johnson.

I just hope we get a really good coach who can help him learn how to be a real winger, take on his man and create chances. There's no way in hell we'll recoup his full fee based on his form with us so far.
Too late for that he will be 24 this year entering his ‘prime’. If his never shown these qualities unlikely he will.
 
Been on this site since mid-October, posting, reading and after 3 months I have come to the conclusion this site for most part attracts children who like shouting insults at one another in the playground. Rarely have I read 2-3 consecutive posts that debate before the insults prevail.

Enjoy your game kids!
 
Been on this site since mid-October, posting, reading and after 3 months I have come to the conclusion this site for most part attracts children who like shouting insults at one another in the playground. Rarely have I read 2-3 consecutive posts that debate before the insults prevail.

Enjoy your game kids!
stick them on ignore mate, there is some decent posters on here. just filter out the shit.
 
Been on this site since mid-October, posting, reading and after 3 months I have come to the conclusion this site for most part attracts children who like shouting insults at one another in the playground. Rarely have I read 2-3 consecutive posts that debate before the insults prevail.

Enjoy your game kids!

People on here are so entrenched with their views debate is difficult.
You won’t change anybody’s mind with a post that’s 50 words.
Make a longer post and people either don’t read it or sone joker posts “OK”. So you’ve wasted your time.

Best just to join in the playground frivolity and treat this place for what it is. A bit of fun. It’s not going to change the world!
 
3 points behind City means fk all as it was early in the season and the table was bunched up.

Our form with our best team out at the start of the season was literally win one lose one, so how much better do you honestly think we would be? that form was still unacceptable. Do you honestly think under Ange we will go on a winning run? We haven't done it since his first 10 games which was eons ago.

Dude, everyone's form was practically win one lose one. That's why we were only 3 points off 3rd despite our form.

Our PPG fell off a fucking cliff mate - we were at 1.5 PPG (not that great) after 12 games - if we continued that right now we would likely be on 32 and be in 7th, a few points off top 4 having taken some points off the teams around us.

The fact we have gone from 1.5 PPG to about 0.6/7 directly when the injuries happened..... it's not coincidence IMHO. It is in yours and others I get that but when you see every single team who is suffering injuries and their form dropping off a cliff, it kind of becomes a bit more real.
 
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You claim my fact is bollocks then you go onto make an assumption which by your logic is also bollocks, way to contradict yourself. 🤦‍♂️

And I'm not being rude but you have a pair of eyes and a functioning brain don't you? Are you actually watching the football or are you just reacting to the results? You see how we're struggling to play out the back and struggling to defend transitions even more so when we've had key players out missing and our forwards looking completely wrecked because we haven't had the ability to rest and rotate your players particularly through a period where you're playing every 3/4 days.

Injuries aren't an excuse are they? Unless you think we'd be in the same position with our strongest team...so the question remains if you actually think that then you're saying that having an 18 year old CM playing as a CB has the same effect on the team as VdV or perhaps Odobert wouldn't be getting more out of this team than an out of form Son and a shit Werner?

And you know just because we beat a Liverpool in an isolated match doesn't mean we'd be able to beat every other team in the league, otherwise we'd be top of the fucking league you complete simpleton, how old are you honestly? 😆

And I'm not being funny but you clearly can' read, you're letting your emotions get the better of you once again...I put that disclaimer in purely for you which said he's doing an appaling job regardless but dismissing injuries is just stupid and ignorant, you sound like a rival fan.

I said clearly, that beating Liverpool at home showed the team is more than capable of winning other PL games against lesser opposition. Basically, that the injuries are just an excuse. There is no reason why we wouldn't have picked up more points than we have, but Ange's appalling management is the reason why, not injuries. If a team is good enough to beat the top team in the league, it is capable of winning other games. If you can't see or acknowledge that, it's because you have an agenda.

If I wasn't a Spurs fan, I will find it hilarious when VDV and Romero come back and we are still losing games. I wonder what you will say then. Ange needs a summer window and more signings probably.

You are the one who said cast iron fact we'd have more points, and it's not provable.
 
Top 4 was surely minimum this year after finishing 5th and then having a lot spent in the summer. Plus a full season with Ange and 2nd pre season should have been able to bed down good tactics and patterns of play. Unfortunately looks like we have not improved in anything maybe corners.
it cant get any worse than this, we are looking down not up. until this guys sacked we will continue to look down, its a matter of when palace overtake us now, not if.
 
Top 4 was surely minimum this year after finishing 5th and then having a lot spent in the summer. Plus a full season with Ange and 2nd pre season should have been able to bed down good tactics and patterns of play. Unfortunately looks like we have not improved in anything maybe corners.
Top 4 is irrelevant. And i couldnt care less a about finishing in 4th. We have so often qualified for Champions League and it doesnt change anything. Yes we get a couple of good matches during the season, and get to play the biggest teams in europe. But the most important thing right now is to get a solid team. A core of players that care and fight for the win. Hopefully get a trophy and start building a squad with the right mentality to start competing at the top. If it takes a step back in the league table, so be it..
 
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