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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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If they really do intend to fully back him I wished they'd fucking get on with it then.
Either sack him and bring in someone who can get more out of this squad or back him and get some more bodies in.
It's all so half arsed. We're just dithering and getting the worst of all worlds
I honestly don’t give a fuck.
He needs to win some games and win them in a row. If he does that I’ll love every press conference
they must be getting turnt down left right and centre.
we are in desperate need for a takeover now.
I just want to reflect quickly on Petit's words about Spurs:
This is how our bitterest rivals see us- a team that ought to be playing for top position in the league. If we don't see ourselves as being there as well, we may as well just end the club now.
This is how our bitterest rivals see us- a team that ought to be playing for top position in the league. If we don't see ourselves as being there as well, we may as well just end the club now.
14th in the league. But don't worry about that. Our goal difference is really good so we're still keeping palace behind at 15th. Things are looking good with Ange at the wheel
See through the season then make an appropriate decision on him with ample opportunity without any excuses of injuries, lack of depth, playing youth etc.
League cup final a possibility. FA cup, Europa final two games weaker teams. There's still a chance here to win something
Inside the 4 walls they seem to still support postecoglou and their long term plans to change the mindset of the club. We will have to wait and see
League cup final a possibility. FA cup, Europa final two games weaker teams. There's still a chance here to win something
Inside the 4 walls they seem to still support postecoglou and their long term plans to change the mindset of the club. We will have to wait and see
Completely agree with this and said the same last night when I got home from the game - Ange is too reactive and emotional at times and hooking Biss and Sarr to create a midfield of Ginge, Berg and Mad left us unbalanced. That's without bringing on Johnson who isn't worth a wank outside of the odd tap in. Leave Biss on, play Berg and Mad as 8s and leave the insipid Ginge out wide.
Arse started the time wasting and general shit housery with 20 minutes to go, they're low on confidence and we could've nicked something from this one.
I'd just love it if Ange at least once tried something different to see how it went. He could've with 20 minutes left gone 352 and gone man for man at the back:
Spence
Drag
Gray
PP
Biss
Mad
Berg
Moore
Richy
Dom
2 players who can cross it to two players who can head it, a balanced midfield and a back 3 that can be turned into a 5 without the ball.
I just don't think Ange has this in his locker and I don't think he ever will. Too reactive, emotional and stubborn, these traits will finish him off at Spurs.
Ange made a big mistake by saying the performance wasn’t good enough. He’s been doing this all year and I think it’s going to cost him. Whilst he’s not pointing the finger at any player specifically, the players will be taking offence to this. Kulusevski has come out and said everyone needs to take responsibility from the top to bottom. This sounds like the players feel like they’re getting all the blame and he’s defending them…
Go back to Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho at Chelsea, Wenger at Woolwich. They never criticised the performance. In public They always blamed the referee, the ball, the weather, some curse etc but in the dressing room the hairdryer went flying.
The problem is Ange and other managers are to honest. If that was Mourinho or Ferguson, they would have said that the corner that should never have been a corner lost us the game. Also means you get better decisions next time
Go back to Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho at Chelsea, Wenger at Woolwich. They never criticised the performance. In public They always blamed the referee, the ball, the weather, some curse etc but in the dressing room the hairdryer went flying.
The problem is Ange and other managers are to honest. If that was Mourinho or Ferguson, they would have said that the corner that should never have been a corner lost us the game. Also means you get better decisions next time
What concerns me is the board will sleepwalk through anything but a loss continuing to parrot these bullshit claims about supporting the manager and "getting structures in place". I never want Tottenham to lose but I find myself not caring if we do this weekend because it might finally be the nail in the coffin that buries Postecoglou.
The only teams who would be satisfied with being where we are in the table are the promoted sides, West Ham class this as such a disappointing position to be in they have already binned their manager, yet here we are giving a guy who has vastly underperformed with the squad at his disposal this season "full backing" to continue our rapid nosedive down the table.
We haven't even got most of the injured players that people are claiming will transform our season back from injury yet, and with the long layoffs they've all had with this apparently mysterious (nothing to do with the way we play or anything) hamstring epidemic, we'll be looking at late feb-early march before they're back to match fitness and fully integrated. We might not see Udogie in any meaningful way until the back end of the season. If Ange can't win with this team we are too far from safety not to bin him off now and steer the ship right before that becomes an alarmingly real possiblity.
He must have gotten into with Ange, as I believe had been rumored.
Personally I would trust Maddison's opinion of the matter- he's won more real silverware than Ange ever did.
Careful mate, you don't want to be disparaging the J-league too loudly round here, apparently it's a real breeding ground for tactical masterminds of the game.
Totally agree. You aren't supposed to dig your colleagues out in public- you do that as privately as possible. Completely indicative of how out of touch he is- never his fault for tactics, setup etc. If his only recourse is to complain we didn't do it his way well enough, well I'm sorry Ange- you're just not a very good coach.
Yea what a weird move that was. We were really clicking under Redknapp.
I think I was in my 6th year of Spurs fandom at that point and a of course younger and less wise- took me a while to figure out what was actually going on during those times. Feels like an opportunity lost. We eventually found Poch though which took away all those nasty what-ifs...
I remember him responding positively to interest in the job a few times, but was it really that bad? I don't think I was paying as much attention to the press around the club at that time so just don't have a real idea of how serious it was considered. Was it blatantly disrespectful?
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It was bad in some quarters. I remember Flav wanted 'Arry gone as soon as he said it and we felt relief when he left in the end. It was mainly saying we were gonna have a title challenge half way through the season, then signing Ryan Nelsen instead of Mario Mandzukic, getting distracted by the England job that never came, taking his eye off the ball in the league and not realising Chelsea could take the CL place.
Our form at the end of that season was poor. I wanted Levy to sell Arry to England because then all parties would have been happy and we could have ended the season stronger. That isn't dismissing the great work he did before the second half of his final season.
Just saying all good things come to an end and we better not rewrite history entirely.
Agree. Madders has to start. Even if you put him at right wing, he offers more than Johnson.
Careful mate, you don't want to be disparaging the J-league too loudly round here, apparently it's a real breeding ground for tactical masterminds of the game.
Is there any evidence of this?
I ask cos I see people building a strawman argument against fans who apparently worship ange, or his previous experience. But never once seen anyone on here do that.
I don't give a fuck about the manager by the way, I'm bored of arguing over crumbs. But I keep seeing people have a go (on here) against a mythical set of fans who say ange is God