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That might just be the one name in World football that makes me think sticking with Ange is the right move.

Just as hapless on a coaching/tactical level, minus the nice idea of wanting to play attacking football, and a chasm of personality so vast that it would be an insult to the delightful flavour of vanilla to label him vanilla.

I've been quite adamant that there are few people that could be doing a worse job of managing Spurs right now, but he's definitely one of the elite few.

I'd go the other way. I was adamantly against the likes of Potter or Southgate until Ange. He's made me warm to them. That's how bad we are now. They'd be comfortable mid table managers with this squad. Maybe even get us as high us 8th.
 
I'd go the other way. I was adamantly against the likes of Potter or Southgate until Ange. He's made me warm to them. That's how bad we are now. They'd be comfortable mid table managers with this squad. Maybe even get us as high us 8th.
I think lumping those two together is incredibly harsh on Potter.

Southgate has never shown at any level that he provides anything in the way of coaching/tactics.

International football suits him as it's just about picking a squad and choosing the best team, and he wasn't even good at that really. Entrust him to try and coach a bunch of players and you'd see the same clueless shit on the pitch that we're seeing now, just minus the intent to attack.
 
...giving that waistcoat a brush for the Press Conference....

Rumour is Levy has ordered 1000 Spurs “winter” waistcoats for the clubshop.

These are going to be all the rage soon. All the cool kids will be wearing it once they see Sir Gareth rocking it.

Essential Spurs drip.

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He gambled on both our starting centrebacks, despite medical team telling him they weren't fit, and subsequently they both get injured for another 2 months of the season. Subsequently three members of our medical team left the club and were paid off, because Ange didn't like what they were telling him about his shoddy practices no doubt. We even have the Athletic writing articles about it.

Can you show me when that happened under previous managers such as Jose?
Geoff Scott left in the summer and is very highly thought of Phsio. Also known for standing his ground when it comes to injuries you can see him in the all or nothing documentary challenging Mourinho when he wanted Son to play with a broken arm. Not perfect because Kane believed he had to get his own physio.

The fact is it was a myth that our Medical Department are incompetent even the biggest indictment was the Skipp infection and that was during an Op not our medical team.
 
Keeping VDV on was stupid in hindsight. Ange prides himself on sticking to his principals and not getting emotional during games, but he clearly threw all that out the window when he decided to leave VDV on against medical advice.

And he hasn't learnt his lesson either because he did the exact same thing with Ben Davies at the weekend but got away with it!
 
You’re supposing stuff from bits and pieces there to fit an overall narrative. The Athletic article only says:

“Sources familiar with the situation, who asked to remain anonymous to protect relationships, say that the medical staff had reservations about Van de Ven’s readiness to play.”

How many times have we seen players thrown into big games when they were not totally fit? Poch playing Kane in the CL final being the most notorious example.

Here’s Jose on his philosophy:

"In every sport – and I know because I have friends and they play at the highest level in other sports – how many times you play and you are not 100%," he said. "I have a friend that is a big tennis player, he tells me he remembers more the times he played with pain than the times he played without any pain. To compete you have to go to the limits. It’s a cultural thing for some and that’s not my culture.

And we saw in All Or Nothing how he was giving Geoff Scott a mental breakdown over injured players.

I’m sure Ange wishes he could take back pickng both for the Chelsea game. It was a bad call, no doubt about it. But sport is high pressure and it does strange things to decision making. He wasn’t the first and won’t be the last manager to do it.

Imagine how many players play through injuries in every Championship team, in every sport.

The NBA has an 82 game Regular Season, then the Play-Offs after that. Every single member of both teams in the final, EVERY YEAR, will be playing through soft-tissue and likely ligament/tendon discomfort.

It's just a normal part of elite sport. The best players manage themselves better but are also tougher to handle the discomfort and physically more durable to recover faster.
 
Imagine how many players play through injuries in every Championship team, in every sport.

The NBA has an 82 game Regular Season, then the Play-Offs after that. Every single member of both teams in the final, EVERY YEAR, will be playing through soft-tissue and likely ligament/tendon discomfort.

It's just a normal part of elite sport. The best players manage themselves better but are also tougher to handle the discomfort and physically more durable to recover faster.
American sport is whole different thing. Playing on injections with torn up muscles was normalised for years. The NFL injury rate this year was absolutely insane. ACLs all over the place seemingly every week . Would love to see some data comparing the injury rates in the different sports.
 
I think lumping those two together is incredibly harsh on Potter.

Southgate has never shown at any level that he provides anything in the way of coaching/tactics.

International football suits him as it's just about picking a squad and choosing the best team, and he wasn't even good at that really. Entrust him to try and coach a bunch of players and you'd see the same clueless shit on the pitch that we're seeing now, just minus the intent to attack.

I've just never been a fan of Potter. Everyone he left seemed to suddenly start scoring for fun after he left. Which is mad considering apparently the reason he wasn't the next Pep was because his strikers couldn't score.
Until he left.

But compared to the shit show we have now, his level of organization would at least sort out the injuries and chaos.
 
American sport is whole different thing. Playing on injections with torn up muscles was normalised for years. The NFL injury rate this year was absolutely insane. ACLs all over the place seemingly every week . Would love to see some data comparing the injury rates in the different sports.

Think we have to expect that the PL is headed in the direction of American sports now. The owners of the clubs are American or from countries outside the UK and the business will always come before player welfare now. There will be more games and players will just have to hack it. Most will likely turn to PEDs of some kind of they haven't already.
 
Anyone who thinks we are going for Southgate next hasn't a clue. It'll be an attacking manager. They'll stick to the project and hope that Ange laid some good attacking foundations.

Moving to a totally defensive coach like Southgate would be clueless and show we have no direction and are just making it up as we go a long. I'd totally give up on Tottenham if we went for Southgate. I'd be left with no choice but to wash my hands of it all
 
O'Keefe debunked the Geoff Scott thing

:bentancurpoint::bentancurpoint:

18) Made Geoff Scott leave the club even though the fans have been calling for the club to change the medical staff for years
 
That might just be the one name in World football that makes me think sticking with Ange is the right move.

Just as hapless on a coaching/tactical level, minus the nice idea of wanting to play attacking football, and a chasm of personality so vast that it would be an insult to the delightful flavour of vanilla to label him vanilla.

I've been quite adamant that there are few people that could be doing a worse job of managing Spurs right now, but he's definitely one of the elite few.

I get it.

You’re more of a Frank Lampard of Wayne Rooney type of guy.

Young forward thinking attacking minded coach.
 
I think lumping those two together is incredibly harsh on Potter.
it's ridiculous.

Potter took over one a Brighton who survived because there were 3 crap clubs keeping them up. Stayed up by 2 pts. Potter first season were 7 pts clear and better GF and GA. After that set records for PL pts there. Last 12-15 matches or so they were on fire.

Southgate? Got 'Boro relegated and then failed to get back up. Fired by probbly the most loyal Chirman in the country (refused to fire Bryan Robson but got El Tel in beside him to keep them up).

Anyway it's academic now. Levy had loads of chances to get him in and I expect him to do well at Spam.
 
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