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FFS John, he's literally just said in his last post:
"FWIW, I'm now of the opinion that ENIC need to go. They've taken us as far as they can really. I'll happily laud them for the good they've done for the club, but it's all for nought if it doesn't ALL translate to success on the pitch. I thought that was the end game, I no longer believe that now, and haven't for a while."
How is that 'unswerving support'? The fact that he is capable of understanding context, nuance, pros and cons, and hence being able to have some balance, post both good and bad things about our owners, makes him instantly better than 90% of the posters on here. Can you not at least give the guy some credit for his explaining above that he has changed his mind? Again, something that 90% of people on here (and in life generally) are totally incapable of doing...
You really do pick some strange battles sometimes. :/
He's stalked me before.
The ENIC fanboys are all ticking his lame replies which is also informative for anyone wishing to 'get into it' with them.
Birds of a feather with the same agenda.
Protect the king.
It’s why none of the letting us drift further down the table makes any sense. We are missing out on millions of pounds of prize money by finishing the season 15/16/17th than 5/6/7th on top of not qualifying for European football.
The only case where they would not be bothered about it is if they are expecting it to be somebody else’s problem from next season because we are being sold.
Not for the club but without levy and ENIC the development and levelling up of the area around the stadium and in Tottenham doesn’t happen. It’s the one good thing levy has done. He’s improved the area beyond what successive governments since WW2 have failed to do. That’s the only think I’ll thank him for.
Mr Thomas.
Could you direct message me.
I can't direct message you unfortunately.
I'm expecting a ban soon and a concerted effort to take down the dissenters.
We need to stick together during these difficult times.
I also invite anyone else attracting the attention of the Stasi to direct message me.
Can we banish all the 'fans' who hate ENIC more than they love Spurs to the ENIC Out thread and rename it 'the thread for people incapable of accepting that other people have different opinions to theirs'?
In other words, please stop trying to ban / banish people who have a different opinion to you. It's a forum, we exchange opinions, often they are contrasting opinions. It's healthy to hear and (god forbid) try to understand people who have opinions that differ to yours.
Stealing my lines
Well first of all, the season isn’t even finished mate. Secondly, I can find another season in Premier League where the table was tight. Doesn’t mean shit. Thirdly, the league was indeed competitive when you had City and Liverpool in their prime a few seasons ago. You couldn’t touch top 2. Nowadays Slot who’s just jumped ship from Eredivisie is leading the fucking league with a team that finished 3rd last season. So spare me with this shit.
Are the midtable teams better compared to a few seasons ago? Probably. Are the top sides worse? Probably too.
Look at the just released Deloitte figures. Revenue declined 3% YOY going from the Champions League to no Europe.
Deloitte Football Money League 2026
The 2024/25 season set another new record, with the top 20 Money League clubs generating over €12 billion in revenue for the first time.
That's real, it matters. But when the running player expenditure is as singularly out of line with industry standards as it has always been maintained under ENIC, that kind of decline does not change our status as the single club on planet earth with the most scope under PSR/FFP to spend more money on players.
It's not unlimited. You're not allowed to do a Man City anymore. A couple of wrong decisions and you can start chewing away at that wiggle room before you know it.
But it is a fact that we have headroom all of our competition does not. A massive advantage wrung penny by penny from supporters wallets, that current leadership will never exploit, and the club deserves leadership that will.
Incidentally, women's football, youth football, and "community development expenditure" are also exempt under PSR.
No, only you.
That had nothing to do with Levy either, it was all about your attempts to bait Spurs fans.
No real surprise that you've dodged my posts for years, but then jump to the defence of a proven liar on here.
You deserve each other.
Spare you what shit?
All im saying is in 2016/17 a very specific year -the league was less competitive so i don't think that is a good comparison to gauge how Poch would do in the prem right now.
You don't even know what you're angry about right now.
We will be getting a room shortly.
It will need to be a large fucking room I reckon because we are not alone and the balloon is finally going up by the looks.
The Albert Hall may do it.
I'm Ange Out while also being Enic/Levy Out. Ange's methods cause or at least exacerbate the injury problem. The last few PL matches show his tactical insufficiencies.
Enic/Levy is easy--just too many wrong decisions in a row compounding problem after problem. They need to cash out and we need to get an owner that will shell out whatever it takes to win. To keep it fair, Levy did spent Є616million the last 3 years (24/25: Є165m, 23/24: Є272m, 22/23: Є179m) while taking in Є213million from sales (net spend over Є400million!!) which implicates Ange. The fact that the investments didn't pan out or perform at the level needed or been sidelined with injury is an implication of Levy/Scouts/System/ENIC. https://www.transfermarkt.us/tottenham-hotspur/alletransfers/verein/148
Enic/Levy is easy--just too many wrong decisions in a row compounding problem after problem. They need to cash out and we need to get an owner that will shell out whatever it takes to win. To keep it fair, Levy did spent Є616million the last 3 years (24/25: Є165m, 23/24: Є272m, 22/23: Є179m) while taking in Є213million from sales (net spend over Є400million!!) which implicates Ange. The fact that the investments didn't pan out or perform at the level needed or been sidelined with injury is an implication of Levy/Scouts/System/ENIC. https://www.transfermarkt.us/tottenham-hotspur/alletransfers/verein/148
Dude, I genuinely don't like the guy you've quoted, he's a nasty bit of work.
But you're not helping yourself here
The stadium is an asset that makes CONSIDERABLY more money a month/year than the cost to pay off the loans.
Imagine you borrowed £200k for a flat at £750 a month mortgage and then rented it out at £1,500 a month.
You're £750 in profit every months even with the £200k "debt" to consider.
Couple of things.
£9M loss is still a £9M loss. That's £9M of our £105M allowed loss over 3 years. When posted with seasons where, after the stadium is pulled out, we had profits then it's not an issue. When posted up next to seasons with even greater losses (which it will be in a few years), then it becomes an issue. It impacts our ability to spend, you're an ostrich to pretend otherwise.
2 - without European competition, match day revenue goes down. Fewer matches. Less matchday income.
So, the accounts we publish in the summer will show a huge loss, even after the stadium is taken out, because you'll have a similar baseline £9M loss - £56M European revenue - £?M matchday revenue. My guess? It all adds up to a ±£60M PSR loss.
Now let's assume that we get 24/25 back to something like a -£9M loss as we just posted this past summer.
Those accounts will post in 2026, so at that point our PSR is (-)£9M + (-) £60M + (-) £9M ≈ (-) £78M. In isolation, that looks manageable. We still have over £20M in PSR headroom.
But we will know we have another debt balloon coming down the stream, because in 2027 we'll post the accounts including the 25/26 season whose revenue includes a PL payout for a 12th or lower finish coupled with no European revenue.
In 2027 our PSR calculation will then be (-) £60M + (-) £9M + (-) £70M ≈ (-) £140. That's £30M over the PSR limit.
We're not run by morons incapable of simple financial forecasting. That means that in order to avoid the above we're going to significantly decrease spending to reduce that impending debt bubble from smashing our PSR in 30 months.
It's a fair point which I accept.
I also think the employment opportunities at the stadium help Tottenham.
Some of the small business owners may disagree with that sentiment though.
