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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Yea idiot, because you replied to my post first?
are you stupid justin bieber GIF

I don't think you have any right to call people stupid seeing what kicked off this conversation you bozo. 🤦🏾‍♀️
 
thats my fear, Ange keeps saying when the players come back.

nothing to suggest that VDV and Romero wont pull a muscle injury again with the intensity of our game. or that the ones who are constantly playing now don't go down with an injury in these next 3 games, kulu, son, porro and richie are ticking time bombs imo
the club has to sign a midfielder, and a couple forwards and he needs to be prepared to use reggie alot more in the league
When he says players are we just referring to VDV and cuti?
 
If you don't want on hear from me then stop fucking quoting me... :porrohands:

Trying to deflect from your utter rank stupidity with more stupidity, I see you bro...just sit this one out 🤡

Conte £51m lmao
Like I said, I already said I was wrong to Willie.. cause I'm a man.

Your ass has been spitting out stupidity in this forum for quite awhile now regarding Ange and we all had to read your shitty posts.

Sensitive as to the core but that is who you are right? MATE?
 
Like I said, I already said I was wrong to Willie.. cause I'm a man.

Your ass has been spitting out stupidity in this forum for quite awhile now regarding Ange and we all had to read your shitty posts.

Sensitive as to the core but that is who you are right? MATE?

How much do you think we'll pay Ange off £60m £70m?
 
I hate Levy but not everything is about him. He’s accountable for hiring this completely unqualified person and accountable for keeping him on past any reasonable point, but we’ve spent more than enough to be doing far better, the squad is not the 16th best team in the league even accounting for injuries.

How bad Ange is doing is not about spending. It’s about a stubborn as hell coach who is out of his depth and has gone off the deep end. He has completely failed to adapt to a crisis and the results have spiralled. There is no body of evidence that this is just a fluke and that he can recover it, his CV is a load of nothing for this level.

The defences of Ange are all coming from the same morons (sorry but it’s true) that think managing in Japan or Scotland and being successful in that vacuum is entirely transferable to success in the bloodbath that is the premier league. This is nonsensical. We have seen how badly Ange has failed to deal with the high level of media scrutiny at a top premier league club. The pressure is a different world.


Wot?
 
You may be right that Ange is stubbornly trying to make a playing system that works in much lower quality leagues happen in a fundamentally different Premier League without the necessary adaptation.

But it feels pretty silly to say he's failed with the media scrutiny, he's got the press eating out of his hand, he's much BETTER at that than his predecessors.

One potential explanation as to why is that where Celtic is nothing like Tottenham in terms of the level of football, it is very comparable in terms of the level of media scrutiny.


It's funny, I think that both Ange's most dead-end supporters and those who have believed he was a fraud from day one would fully agree that it's a lot like Leeds under Bielsa.
bielsa takes shits that know more about football than ange
 
Well first of all, the season isn’t even finished mate. Secondly, I can find another season in Premier League where the table was tight. Doesn’t mean shit. Thirdly, the league was indeed competitive when you had City and Liverpool in their prime a few seasons ago. You couldn’t touch top 2. Nowadays Slot who’s just jumped ship from Eredivisie is leading the fucking league with a team that finished 3rd last season. So spare me with this shit.

Are the midtable teams better compared to a few seasons ago? Probably. Are the top sides worse? Probably too.

what does this have to do with the discussion i was having. It was my opinion on how Poch would fair with our team in a more competitive league than when he was in charge..... you haven't even mentioned Poch. This has NOTHING to do with ange.

I have no idea why your point is.
 
I hate Levy but not everything is about him. He’s accountable for hiring this completely unqualified person and accountable for keeping him on past any reasonable point, but we’ve spent more than enough to be doing far better, the squad is not the 16th best team in the league even accounting for injuries.

How bad Ange is doing is not about spending. It’s about a stubborn as hell coach who is out of his depth and has gone off the deep end. He has completely failed to adapt to a crisis and the results have spiralled. There is no body of evidence that this is just a fluke and that he can recover it, his CV is a load of nothing for this level.

The defences of Ange are all coming from the same morons (sorry but it’s true) that think managing in Japan or Scotland and being successful in that vacuum is entirely transferable to success in the bloodbath that is the premier league. This is nonsensical. We have seen how badly Ange has failed to deal with the high level of media scrutiny at a top premier league club. The pressure is a different world.

The thing is as well, what exactly does Ange bring to the table...apart from being a ill-fitting suit wearing, shoe gazing arrogant prick?

I mean, he doesn't coach. He isn't a hands on trainer. He isn't even a hands on man manager. He has no relationship with the players. He's a naturally awkward bloke. He loves the sound of his own voice. He always speaks in this way that is so full of shit, and morons buy into what he says. He's a spinster. An absolute chancer who is totally blagging it.

I actually thought, his team talk video which was posted when he was appointed, was cringe as fk. I looked passed it because I wanted to believe in him, but when it quickly unravelled I always thought to myself, nah something seems off.

The way he seems to pick fights with the fans now too. He's just a very unlikeable man and he will represent one of the darkest periods in Spurs history.

We don't know how bad it is going to get yet. But I think we will probably have another two weeks of him, and he'll finally finally be gone, once Liverpool batter us and Villa do us in the other cup a few days later and when we've also lost at Brentford.

That will be 3 more defeats in a row and even Levy will finally have to pull the trigger.
 
Your original statement was that we've run into PSR jail. Which is false, as you know and have avoided attempting to refute.


That wasn't my post, it isn't a 9M loss, revenues increased in other areas, and wage costs went and continue to decline, from an existing baseline that was, again, once more with feeling, the single most frugal on planet earth.

You'll always find a way to cuddle yourself as being better informed and more internet savvy than the lowly Levy whiners. You do you, whatever.

But falsehoods about Spurs' financial position would negatively impact the discourse around here if not rebutted with the truth.
Can't help myself. I truly have no idea why you've brought Levy into this discussion and continue to hammer on it. This is the problem with some of you - you've got tunnel vision and all you can see is #LevyOut.

The point made was that, really regardless of whatever you believe our PSR standing will be in 3 years time we will have significantly less spending capability due to Ange's disaster bottoming out into no-Europe and 12th or lower in the final table. It's really incontrovertibly true, unless you can point out how finishing 12th and not being in Europe somehow makes us money.

There's simply no way to mathematically reason that we would not be better off. You seem to be intent on discussing whether or not Levy takes advantage of PSR - beside the point. As I said multiple times, if Levy died today and Ange was sacked tomorrow - we'd still be dealing with the negative impacts of Ange's appointment 3 years from now.


On your topic, here's how Swiss Ramble puts it.

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£53M profit is solely down to £101M profit on players sales, which doesn't give with reported fees so must be largely twisted by our getting a lump sum for Kane and having deferred payments for our incoming players I guess. Without that profit on player trading, it's a £47M loss.


In any event, that +£101M isn't replicateable.

So we have a big debt bubble coming in the accounts posted in June with the FY24/25 accounts reflecting no European football in 23-24 season and a net spend in player trading.

This season we'll have some European revenue again for the FY 25/26 accounts, but we'll have a heavy hit for a very low league finish. And, again, no profit on player sales (unless we sell off Romero and VDV and replace them with cheap signings - which we don't want obviously).

Then we'll have no European revenue from 25/26 season posting on the FY26/27, and, let's hope that there, again, won't be a big profit on player trading.

So in the 2027 PSR calculation we'll have (significant profit thanks to selling Kane), (significant loss), (significant loss). In theory we'd have some room to spend, still. But it will depend largely on what we do next season - can we qualify for the EL or CL with no major net spend on players this summer. Qualifying for the CL, financially, won't be a significant positive if it requires a loss on player trading that .ostly/completely offsets the future revenue.
 
Remember that story when he joined that one of his previous players told about sitting next to him for 24 hours on a plane and Ange didnt say a word to him?

From what we know of him now paints a different picture of the man from when we laughed about it back in 2023.
 
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