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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
One thing that points out with Ange is udogie has got worse as time as wore on and johnson has zero tricks to take on players. Seems to me players arent being developed like poch used to do. Even poch got a tune out of mason being developed. We need a manager who has numerous tactics, formations and can develop players. That's why its iraola or poch for me as next manager.
 
But him saying he loves system... Guess he likes it cause he does not need to care about tactics anymore, he just takes the ball and loses it many times without any consequences from manager. Quite opposite to what he used to in Italy and later under Conte.
Deki was never going to throw the manager under the bus during a press conference that he is part of alongside said manager.

He was the same with Conte. But once Conte was fired Dejan started airing his criticism to the Swedish press. Constructive and professional, but still criticism.
 
The blokes injuries are bordering on chronic..The most I'd risk is 15 mins at the end. I'm actually scared he's now so compromised we need another quality lcb any way ( flashback to the summer when I wanted to buy Tapsoba as well.)

Ange said they’ve been extra conservative with bringing him back and he’s had a good 10 days of training.

Sounds like everyone medical and football thinks he’s ready. Can’t keep him wrapped in cotton wool forever. He gets paid to play football.
 
Stopped reading at the mention of Brennan being the key to these tactics working.

A road-runner, right footed, inside-forward who can't take on his man, who can't control the ball, can't cross, can't shoot, can't come inside on his left, can't even kick it with his left, and is forced to play out on the touchline where he looks completely bereft, is the key to Ange's system working?

Sorry but if you still think that then frankly you don't understand the sport you're watching. For the whole of last year we had to listen to people here yap on about Brennan's G/A as if that was evidence of him not being complete shite, and then again this year in his little "hot streak" that was so blatantly going to be short lived, but that opinion is too embarrassing to hold any more so even those old hold-outs seem to have shut up about him.

Oh, and it was widely reported he was Ange's main player demand in his first summer, the guy he REALLY wanted for his system. Cheers gaffer. If the wingers are truly the only key to his system working (spoiler; they're not) the manager has nobody to blame but himself.
You've completely misunderstood me fella.

Brennan is not the type of winger that is the key to Ange's system working.

That is my opinion.

Brennan's rapid, done his best and scored a few goals, especially since Solanke arrived, but he isn't a dribbling, beats his man, winger.

Neither is Son.

Son is starting games and captain at Spurs for non-football reasons in my opinion.

Re - read what I've written on the topic and think again.
 
You've completely misunderstood me fella.

Brennan is not the type of winger that is the key to Ange's system working.

That is my opinion.

Brennan's rapid, done his best and scored a few goals, especially since Solanke arrived, but he isn't a dribbling, beats his man, winger.

Neither is Son.

Son is starting games and captain at Spurs for non-football reasons in my opinion.

Re - read what I've written on the topic and think again.
End of season we should cut our losses with johnson. Offer him back to florist with gibbs-white or murillo in exchange.
 
This whole debate surrounding players backing a manager/downing tools is mostly pointless to me. No matter which one is the case, and I have a feeling that more often than not neither is the case, it's possible to construct sound arguments for or against the manager in question.

It's certainly a good thing for a manager to be supported by his players. Other things being equal, this can be a consideration in favour of keeping him as long as this is the case. At the same time, a manager getting poor results despite having his players on his side can be a terrible sign. It implies that, as soon as this belief starts to erode, things will only get even worse. Being proactive and pulling the plug before this eventuality becomes the reality would therefore be a wise move.

Players downing tools has always been considered to be the point of no return for the manager in charge, yet it's also very reasonable to argue that sacking and employing managers just to appease a bunch of troublemakers will do more harm than good in the long run, by sending them the message that there's a significant power vacuum in the club that they can readily exploit. Again, almost diametrically opposed conclusions can be drawn from the same premise.

I'd rather bypass the aforementioned ambivalences altogether than getting bogged down in them.
 
This whole debate surrounding players backing a manager/downing tools is mostly pointless to me. No matter which one is the case, and I have a feeling that more often than not neither is the case, it's possible to construct sound arguments for or against the manager in question.

It's certainly a good thing for a manager to be supported by his players. Other things being equal, this can be a consideration in favour of keeping him as long as this is the case. At the same time, a manager getting poor results despite having his players on his side can be a terrible sign. It implies that, as soon as this belief starts to erode, things will only get even worse. Being proactive and pulling the plug before this eventuality becomes the reality would therefore be a wise move.

Players downing tools has always been considered to be the point of no return for the manager in charge, yet it's also very reasonable to argue that sacking and employing managers just to appease a bunch of troublemakers will do more harm than good in the long run, by sending them the message that there's a significant power vacuum in the club that they can readily exploit. Again, almost diametrically opposed conclusions can be drawn from the same premise.

I'd rather bypass the aforementioned ambivalences altogether than getting bogged down in them.
John terry was the architect of downing tools when he didnt like the manager. Cunt of the highest order. Tbh I dont think our players down tools as not them kind of people and are professional. Only cracks possibly is romero and maddison. I'd sell romero in summer for huge money so we earn well out of it and get a top replacement first.
 
John terry was the architect of downing tools when he didnt like the manager. Cunt of the highest order. Tbh I dont think our players down tools as not them kind of people and are professional. Only cracks possibly is romero and maddison. I'd sell romero in summer for huge money so we earn well out of it and get a top replacement first.
Don't matter, selling them won't fix the problem.
 
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