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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Gross 33% win

Ange 48% win
Fair enough. Given what they each took on and subsequent backing i think Postecoglou is worse. Gross got 36 pts in his 26 league games 1.38 ppg. Ange over his last 26 league games has 30 pts 1.15 ppg.

All his stats are heavily weighted by that first 10 league games and some fairly easy Europa games if you're counting cups.
 
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He’s hideous.

He’s adopted this corporate abstract language that pretends to take responsibility whilst also not taking any responsibility.

I think part of the reason I dislike him so much is he reminds me of the absolute wankers that infest senior management at my work.
It really is. He's done it a ton this season. Presented it as the player's failing or falling short. And how it is up to HIM. Big strong Ange. To fix things.

It's all about him and his brand.
 
He’s paid a ton of money to set up a side , win football matches and speak to the media afterwards. If 2 out those three targets AREN’T being met : then rightly ; he’s skating on thin ice ( as we all be if given the same contract of employment) .
 
Says it how it is. Most of the posters's on here should be ashamed.
Nope. Because the problem is not just now.

The problem comes from the hideous form seen In the second half of last season.

To which the reaction was to buy one ONE senior professional.

To then start the season badly with 1 win in four and a squad of outfield players that was under 20. To which the window closed and no additional “help” came in. He never had any intention of playing Regulion. But there he was in the squad. We were told that the likes of Lankshere and come January, the South Korean lad would be in and around the squad, contributing, funny how that worked out.

And then we see the FULLY FIT ( near as dam it ) squad shit the bed @ Palace. Humiliate itself against an average Brighton and then hand Ipswich their first top flight away match since when ?

It was only AFTER these rancid defeats that these injuries bit.

A generational crisis with a game every 3 days in January saw them go 30 + day without an additional outfield player.


Nothing about this situation is forgivable and his bleating about injuries is an excuse for right now, it’s not an excuse for the mess since December 2023.

He can go get fucked. And so can Levy.
 
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Delusional, absolutely delusional.

Also, most people aren’t criticising the players, MOST people are criticising the manager.

He knows that as well but by using the players as a shield and saying “Don’t be critical of them” he’s trying to shut down criticism of the performances, which HE is at fault for because of HIS system.

Like someone else said, he’s a professional gaslighter.

He is saying that the players are out on their feet?

Quite obvious that the second half we were a lot better when those same players should have been more fatigued?

That was due to a change in tactics not tired players.

He's hiding behind his ineptness.
 
Nope. Because the problem is not just now.

The problem comes from the hideous form
In the second half of last season.

To which the reaction was to buy one ONE senior professional.

To then start the season badly with 1 win in four and a squad of outfield players that was under 20. To which the window closed and no additional “help” came in. He never had any intention of playing Regulion. But there he was in the squad. We were told that the likes of Lankshere and come January, the South Korean lad would be in the squad.

And then we see the FULLY FIT ( near as dam it ) squad shit the bed @ Palace. Humiliate itself against an average Brighton and then hand Ipswich their first top flight away match since when ?

It was only AFTER these rancid defeats that these injuries bit.

A generational crisis with a game every 3 days in January saw them go 30 + day without an additional outfield player.


Nothing about this situation is forgivable and his bleating about injuries is an excuse for right now, it’s not an excuse for the mess since December 2023.

He can go get fucked. And so can Levy.

I get all of those frustrations my friend, I do. They're good points and absolutely valid. Which is why you should level them completely at Levy and the board as Ange is not to blame for 90% of those things.

I'm sure he has his part to play as many would, but we've seen those issues before.

Haven't we?
 
It's going to be really difficult for Spurs to convince themselves to fire Postecoglou, so they probably won't. To their credit, this time they came together around a manager and a philosophy and embraced a vision for how to go forward. If you had talked to Levy or Munn or Lange at the start of the season and said this is where Spurs will be in February they wouldn't have believed it possible. One of the biggest problems is how, as an organization, to accept that you got the wrong manager. I imagine they still believe in Postecoglou on some level, if only because he's a brilliant salesman. And there's the fear of missing out. If they fire him they will never know if he might not have been a year away from getting all right. Plus, firing Postecoglou would be like cancelling a Taylor Swift concert. The Swifties would come for you, and if you let "Big Ange" go you will face the wrath of the Ange following. I think unless there's clear understanding that the players have quit on him they will bring Postecoglou back for next season. I don't like it, it isn't what I would do, but I think that's the reality.
 
A lot of the defenders from some of the fanbase and members of the press have been arguing with people who don't exist..

There have been arguments like "Do you really expect that Spurs should be challenging for the title with these injuries?"... No, no one did. But we expected to be very comfortable and clear of relegation (which don't get it twisted, with the shambles of the last two performances, is still on the table)

On Thursday there was a lot of "DId you really expect us to go and beat Liverpool with our injuries".. And of course no one did expect us to go and beat Liverpool.. What we expected was that we'd make Liverpool break sweat in a semi final and not give them their easiest game of the season..

They're dishonest. It's this portrayal of Spurs fans as somehow unreasonable or demanding. When in fact the supporters, especially those who travel home and away have had the patience of saints.
 

Defiant Spurs boss Ange Postecoglou suggests there's an 'agenda' to get him SACKED as he rallies against critics after FA Cup defeat by Aston Villa​

  • Ange Postecoglou launched a passionate defence of his Tottenham players
  • Postecoglou is under increasing pressure following his side's FA Cup exit
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By TOM COLLOMOSSE

Published: 21:45 GMT, 9 February 2025

Under-fire Ange Postecoglou hinted at an ‘agenda’ to have him sacked as Tottenham boss after his side were knocked out of a second cup competition inside four days.
 
I get all of those frustrations my friend, I do. They're good points and absolutely valid. Which is why you should level them completely at Levy and the board as Ange is not to blame for 90% of those things.

I'm sure he has his part to play as many would, but we've seen those issues before.

Haven't we?

Ange has said himself he was a driver behind recruiting so young this summer and now again in January.

He has probably done us an incredible favour 2-3 years down the line as long as we don't find a way to fuck this up with some of this talent we have now but if it costs him his job then that was the gamble he took.
 
It's going to be really difficult for Spurs to convince themselves to fire Postecoglou, so they probably won't. To their credit, this time they came together around a manager and a philosophy and embraced a vision for how to go forward. If you had talked to Levy or Munn or Lange at the start of the season and said this is where Spurs will be in February they wouldn't have believed it possible. One of the biggest problems is how, as an organization, to accept that you got the wrong manager. I imagine they still believe in Postecoglou on some level, if only because he's a brilliant salesman. And there's the fear of missing out. If they fire him they will never know if he might not have been a year away from getting all right. Plus, firing Postecoglou would be like cancelling a Taylor Swift concert. The Swifties would come for you, and if you let "Big Ange" go you will face the wrath of the Ange following. I think unless there's clear understanding that the players have quit on him they will bring Postecoglou back for next season. I don't like it, it isn't what I would do, but I think that's the reality.
What are you smoking
 
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