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Management Ange Postecoglou
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jrg
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The Swellhead Spur
have done me. I'm now convinced we will win the Europa league get ECL football not take one more league point and watch in absolute horror as Ipswich win all their games
jrg
And
The Swellhead Spur
have done me. I'm now convinced we will win the Europa league get ECL football not take one more league point and watch in absolute horror as Ipswich win all their games
Probably depends a little on the remaining league performances. If we miraculously become good for the remaining fixtures - and give a good showing in the rest of the EL, then he'll probably be able to stay. However, I think it's become a bit too toxic and we all know the writing's on the wall, and we fans'll be baying for his blood come the first load of nonsense in September / October.
If he does stay, there's no evidence he'll make it beyond the first international break as his league form is soooooo terrible. If he somehow rapidly turns it around, wins a trophy and saves us some severance money - brilliant. He's still handled himself very badly and I'd personally rather he didn't stay in role come the summer.
I think what a lot of these hypotheticals forget is that we didn't exactly set the footballing world on fire, we won by dint of a penalty from a clearly over-excited goalkeeper. It wasn't as if we were peppering them with shots and only the plucky Frankfurt defending kept the score reasonable. We created little, defended better than we normally do, but were pretty much holding on in the second half.
This is not an incredible revolution - we just were more balanced and got the rub of the green to get through.
We won’t sack him if we win it.
But Ange is clearly so done with being here, and after the league campaign this year I’m sure that it’ll be a mutual termination
Ange is very unlikely to want to leave.
Also if we win EL and start well...
If we win it by playing well - there is a good case for keeping him.
His tactics have changed recently. Better midfield less passing back to the keeper and pissing about at the back.
Fix the front three by demoting Johnson and Solanke and we will be in ok shape.
Managers learn from their mistakes.
Another manager starts from scratch.
Or Ange really is thick as a brick as a manager and he carries on - being reckless in defence and sterile in attack.
Do people seriously think Ange changed tactics?
For me, the team is playing for itself now. Seeing Ange has said he will never change the style of play, I find it a bit rich for people to start saying Ange changed it. Did he fuck. The players did what some of us said they might do, just play for themselves and some how get the job done.
You only have to look at the PL results to see what Ange's impact is on the team.
The fact we are still going in Europe is solely down to the players wanting to win something.
For me, the team is playing for itself now. Seeing Ange has said he will never change the style of play, I find it a bit rich for people to start saying Ange changed it. Did he fuck. The players did what some of us said they might do, just play for themselves and some how get the job done.
You only have to look at the PL results to see what Ange's impact is on the team.
The fact we are still going in Europe is solely down to the players wanting to win something.
You could be right
Also, we rode our luck massively. The only reason we are through is from a penalty, and Frankfurt missing some absolute sitters. Although to be honest, that's karma for the first leg.
Another day we get spanked 4 - 1.
Brilliant that we are through, ultimately that is all that matters.
But a change of manager is needed as soon as this cup run is over. Even if we win it.
Because again last night, we are just all over the shop from an organisation and tactical perspective.
We dug in, got the result, but fucking hell, he's still fucking clueless.
Another day we get spanked 4 - 1.
Brilliant that we are through, ultimately that is all that matters.
But a change of manager is needed as soon as this cup run is over. Even if we win it.
Because again last night, we are just all over the shop from an organisation and tactical perspective.
We dug in, got the result, but fucking hell, he's still fucking clueless.
Other than the great chances we missed and a world class save from Tel that is.
Football is like that, teams usually don't take every chance they get.
Maybe they had 1 chance more than us but they were also very lucky their GK was even on the pitch so the result was more than fair IMO. Especially over 2 legs.
You’re wrong.
He’s done here regardless. Even if it’s a “mutual agreement”.
He wouldn't leave without having a go at the super cup and CL too
But let's just get past bodo first if we can
What really grates is the fact that if he hadn’t been so relentlessly stubborn—and had shown even a fraction of this tactical flexibility during our injury crisis (and many other times for that matter) we wouldn’t be languishing just above the relegation zone in the league.
And this is exactly why, even if he wins the EL, I’d still want him gone. That kind of inflexibility isn’t a blueprint for long-term success imo.
If he does manage to win the EL, I highly doubt Levy will sack him. More likely, he’ll ride that win into next season, the league form will continue to nosedive, and he’ll be binned by Christmas, maybe even before then.
Sure, but there is a difference between letting teams have constant sitters, or really limiting and snuffing out their attacking threat.
We let them have constant sitters. It was complete fluke we didn't concede. And we only scored a penalty.
I'm just saying, let's keep it all in perspective. Great result, dogged performance, but we still looked a very pony side from a coaching and tactical perspective.
And there will be no ‘next season’ either!
He's just a slow learner .
So the bonding of the team has nothing to do with Ange, mmmkay
The decision has already been made. Plans for his replacement are underway whatever happens in the cup.
Under his tenure we have lost too many games this season, we are ridiculously close to the relegation places, his tactics lead to the injuries of key players and if Levy sticks with him and the events repeat next season then the pressure will ramp up on Levy.
He's still here then?