He's still here then?
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Whether you, I or any other spurs fan likes him or not...totally disregarding the wave of positivity he'll be getting from this win, because of this major achievement, he has earnt at least one more season serving up as much crap football as he pleases in the PL with us!
We are not a team that is expected to win trophies, quite the opposite as we all know all too well. He has done something no other manager has been able to do at our club in FOURTY ONE years......... Let's take a moment to reflect on that....smell the roses and truly recognise what's been achieved here.......
Easier said than done with these sort of hypotheticals, but I would of (through gritted teeth!) been willing to accept at least another three years of awfully executed #angeball, if it meant us winning this trophy.
But the excuses. Think of the glorious excuses we'll enjoy.
Winning a trophy is great, but that doesn't mean I want to sign on to sitting through week after awful week of what we saw this season.
Holding role for next season after he wins a trophy , followed by another messy season , followed by Poch return after the World Cup . I can live with that even if my preference is a new guy now
I couldn't agree more. But the reality is, at the risk of repeating myself...despite his woeful football in the PL this season, he's just won us our first major trophy in fourty one years. It's not ideal, but he's earnt himself another season with us, unless of course, he continues serving us up gash football and endless losses in the PL.
The bare minimum we need is much more experience in the assistant coaching staff were Ange to stay on.
Yeah, that's a fair point. Time for Mason to go IMO....nice bloke and all but sentimental feelings aside, I don't get the feeling he really adds much, especially a team with CL ambitions.
The only way i can see it is if, sometime in Feb or March, Ange and Levy had a meeting where Ange got the green light to 100% focus on the Europa.
Doesnt excuse the league form but if Levy agreed in some part to the Europa win being above all else then perhaps we may still see him here next season - cant see it myself but who knows
Possibly Jedinak too?
I’d probably keep Matt Wells but add more experience in place of Ryan and Mile including a set piece coach and a specialist defensive coach.
If you can improve as a club you do so. We've largely got out of jail with that win and have a golden opportunity to push on and be a serious threat. I dont want to see us back where we started come October, losing to pretty much every decent side, wracking up injuries and the positivity we have now just dissapearing. We then have to find someone decent to come mid season, never easy. Thanks for the trophy and best wishes but he is easily upgradeable. He isnt going to suddenly become an astute tactician, we're not going to miraculously become consistant, we're not going to stop losing a ton of games (27 out of our last 48 league games). You dont have to be Mystic Meg, we have 18 months of evidence.
Keeping everything the same in the vague hope all will be better then why not keep the entire squad together? Maybe Bissouma wont be flakey and massively inconsistant, maybe Richarlison will stay fit and develop a first touch, maybe Sonny will revert to playing like its 2020. These sort of opportunites dont come around often, imo it would be madness to piss it away out of vibes and sentimentality.
Keeping everything the same in the vague hope all will be better then why not keep the entire squad together? Maybe Bissouma wont be flakey and massively inconsistant, maybe Richarlison will stay fit and develop a first touch, maybe Sonny will revert to playing like its 2020. These sort of opportunites dont come around often, imo it would be madness to piss it away out of vibes and sentimentality.
The positives to him staying is that he has reiterated numerous times that "we have to bring in experience". Managers like Glasner and Xavi would absolutely not come without assurances that they will have money to spend on experienced proven players so they would be a safe bet but managers like Mckenna would simply accept what Levy tells him (and i like Mckenna tbh) meaning probably back to square one.
In Europe Ange has tweaked his gameplan/style away from home which is something i thought he would never do so that's a positive. He did that in the final as well but how much of it was down to inuries? we will never know.
I don't like the part of his post match interview where he differentiated Europe from league football and i think that's alarm bells. Like i said, i was happy he tweaked his style of play but him trying to justify it by essentially saying "yeh its because its a knock out comp" made me think is he going to continue to be his stubborn self in the league next year if he stays. Maybe if he gets the personnel he wants that might be ok?
I dunno man, like i said a day or so ago if we get a proven big name in who will not accept being bamboozled by Levy then we should still replace him but if not then back him and give him what he wants.
In Europe Ange has tweaked his gameplan/style away from home which is something i thought he would never do so that's a positive. He did that in the final as well but how much of it was down to inuries? we will never know.
I don't like the part of his post match interview where he differentiated Europe from league football and i think that's alarm bells. Like i said, i was happy he tweaked his style of play but him trying to justify it by essentially saying "yeh its because its a knock out comp" made me think is he going to continue to be his stubborn self in the league next year if he stays. Maybe if he gets the personnel he wants that might be ok?
I dunno man, like i said a day or so ago if we get a proven big name in who will not accept being bamboozled by Levy then we should still replace him but if not then back him and give him what he wants.
If Levy does sack Ange its going to cost something like a total of £12 million , according to the BBC he gets a £2 million bonus for winning the EL and it's extimated he is on £5 mil per year, 2years I think left on his contract , that's all the hotel money gone then. 
www.bbc.co.uk
Europa League: Tottenham Hotspur's to-do list including Ange Postecoglou future
BBC Sport analyses Tottenham's to-do list, from their manager's future, to recruitment plans and the bonuses for European glory.
www.bbc.co.uk
We’ve pissed away £3m for every league position we’ve dropped down though!If Levy does sack Ange its going to cost something like a total of £12 million , according to the BBC he gets a £2 million bonus for winning the EL and it's extimated he is on £5 mil per year, 2years I think left on his contract , that's all the hotel money gone then.
Europa League: Tottenham Hotspur's to-do list including Ange Postecoglou future
BBC Sport analyses Tottenham's to-do list, from their manager's future, to recruitment plans and the bonuses for European glory.
So the decision about next season will be financial...you're right...championship here we come.If Levy does sack Ange its going to cost something like a total of £12 million , according to the BBC he gets a £2 million bonus for winning the EL and it's extimated he is on £5 mil per year, 2years I think left on his contract , that's all the hotel money gone then.
Europa League: Tottenham Hotspur's to-do list including Ange Postecoglou future
BBC Sport analyses Tottenham's to-do list, from their manager's future, to recruitment plans and the bonuses for European glory.
I don't want him here next season, but I accept he likely will be.
I just hope Levy has someone on standby for Oct/Nov time.
True but it is swings and roundabouts not sure how much it's worth to get through the league stage in the CL but the club are certainly guaranteed a fair amount next season
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Yeah that's spot on mate