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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
I just want to feel some hope for the future of this club. Ange fills me with anxiety and despair. The club will be better off if we move in a different direction.
 
ThePreacher said:
How many managers have done that full stop?

Winning managers don't forfeit one Cup for their PL ambitions.

I mean how do managers do the Double and Treble?

I never saw Fergie throw the PL to win a Cup.

It's an Angeism, bullshit, bollocks.
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Lol Utd and Fergie you know as if Tottenham can compare to Utd and any manager we've had compare to Fergie...Utd are built to win and challenge in multiple fronts, we are not hence why the majority of our managers have fallen short under this board one way or another.
 
Mostly wrong said:
You made the representation that there is some intangible barrier between Tottenham and City/Liverpool that would prevent us from applying the same approach to competing on multiple fronts and identifying a manager who best equips us to do that, there's no disagreement that that is down to board mismanagement, but you seem to think Ange is some generational special manager who has some magical ability to be the only man compatible with Levy and ENIC and win trophies. Clearly there is more at play, people who are mentioning the run to the final are primarily doing so to point out that Ange did not overcome insurmountable odds to win it, yes he achieved something others had failed to do, but largely only did what a club of our size should be expected to in that competition, and completely tanked the league campaign to achieve it.

Quote me.

Why is it acceptable not to challenge for the league? We have enough resources, we've had good enough teams, albeit just 2 or 3 short on the overall squad. Why should we settle for 17th to spin the wheel at cup competitions?

It tells me Ange was incapable of utilising an incredibly expensively assembled squad to at the bare minimum prevent us becoming a complete embarrassment in the league in the process of guiding us to (and winning) a final. Something none of the managers who previously guided us to finals needed to do in order to do so.

So we didn't lose those finals from lack of prioritising cups?
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ok
 
It really is so Spursy to have to sack the first manager in 17 years to win us a trophy, a very decent one too because he also achieved the status of overseeing the worst finish in the PL era and we were fortunate not to be relegated….
 
Ange and his starting 11 were good enough to beat any team in the PL. With 1 or 2 rotations around the edge, they were good enough for 5th that should have been 4th after destroying Villa at Villa Park and also went deep in the league cup this year,

The depth we signed were all teenagers, even Tel added in January. 7 changes plus teenagers playing their first season and trying to dominate games with Ange football were relegation level this season. If Ange or the new manager try to go deep in 4 competitions, plays 60+ games and ends up playing heavily rotated lineups with 19/20 year olds, those players will be a year further along the line but more like mid table than relegation level.

Unless the club bring some real depth and experience in.
 
Aussies Dream said:
It really is so Spursy to have to sack the first manager in 17 years to win us a trophy, a very decent one too because he also achieved the status of overseeing the worst finish in the PL era and we were fortunate not to be relegated….
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It's the direct opposite of Spursy, isn't it?

Rather than our poor luck showing up at the most critical time, we have a stroke of luck at the critical moment.

Rather than losing on an OG, we win by one. Instead of being doomed by our luck we're saved by it for once.

Rather than losing to a very beatable team by failing to take chances, we fail to take those chances but win anyway.

Instead of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, we latched on and ground one out.

Instead of going into a shell and then bottling a lead, we went into a shell and it worked.

Down is up, up is down
 
Ionman34 said:
Not really. Blasting it down the middle of the goal is poor shooting, you make it that much easier for a goalkeeper, especially at elite level.

Players are coached to place their shots to the extremes of the goal to make it harder for the keeper to make the save. The window for a striker is much smaller than the area between the posts. Hitting the post 3 times in a game does have an element of misfortune to it, but it's definitely not poor shooting.
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I mean, sure, it is not poor shooting but it still has nothing to do with an invisible force called luck.

its shooting that is not quite hitting the target that the player needs to adjust for.
 
Ange deserves huge credit for getting us over the line in the EL but the way some are denigrating previous managers for losing finals is absurd.

Redknapp lost a cup final to Ferguson’s United. Poch lost a CL final to peak Klopp Liverpool and a league cup final to title-winning Chelsea. Mason lost a cup final to peak Pep City. Yes we failed to produce a miracle on those occasions but our opponents were all vastly superior to us.

Our opponent in the EL final was the first final in my time supporting the club where we were not outmatched on paper. All credit to Ange for winning the game on the pitch but anyone throwing shade at Poch by comparison for not winning a game against the greatest Liverpool team of all time just looks foolish. The final Ange had to play was the least challenging one we’ve had in decades.
 
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