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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I think he’d do alright. If anything I’m blasé about it. But 100% looking forward to the meltdown whatever happens.
Interesting to know why you think he will do alright and are biased about it... I have asked a few other Frank In forum members but they haven't been able to substantiate anything that would point to Frank being the right man. Like you said though, whoever we pick (assuming it won't be Ancelotti) is not going to be universally liked and there will be a group (me included if it's a mid table PL clogger) who will start hounding the new manager out the door before a ball has been kicked.
So Spurs go through a series of managers searching for a long awaited manager to win a cup.
Manager achieves cup success and they sack him.
What does that even mean for future managers? Win us champions league and you still face the sack? Finish top 4 trophyless and still face the sack?
There needs to be stability. Back your managers if they can bring you success.
Manager achieves cup success and they sack him.
What does that even mean for future managers? Win us champions league and you still face the sack? Finish top 4 trophyless and still face the sack?
There needs to be stability. Back your managers if they can bring you success.
tbh, while there are better coaches than Frank, I honestly think if you spend some time listening to Frank talk about football it is impossible not to conclude that the man has a far more nuanced, detailed and sophisticated approach to tactics than does Ange. He has also, if anything, somewhat overachieved at Brentford. Ange has not overachieved at Tottenham, despite EL.
It's a recognition that you have to calibrate your assessment based on all the competitive games he's played, the standard of competition, and the direction of travel.
The trophy is great yes. But it's part of the story. It does not mean we will win another one next year. It does not mean our league form will magically improve dramatically.
I’m not Ange In but I can’t see the point at this time of losing him and replacing him with a middle level manager who has never won anything.
Having said that, if he’s in I suspect he’ll be out by Xmas.
Having said that, if he’s in I suspect he’ll be out by Xmas.
Then we disagree. I think it is very possible to conclude Frank is a bigger chancer than Ange. You see, I have listened to Frank plenty and you're right, he comes across as someone with an air of football philosopher about him. However, when you get by the prancing he's not actually saying much at all or at least not anything I couldn't conclude myself. Having a nuanced, detailed and sophisticated approach to tactics does not make you a better manager (see Harry Redknapp). Can he motivate, will his players run through walls for him, does he feel the game and know when to make changes, can he win when it matters. All of these things are not something I am saying Ange has by the way. Also, I don't think he has overachieved at Brentford at all. They are exactly where they should be... slap bang in the middle of the PL. If anything he should have at least kicked on by now and got them into Conference League.
If we had finished in the top half, Ange wouldn't be getting sacked.
A serious club cannot finish 17th with 38 points and point to a lesser trophy like the Europa League as a reason to ignore the disgusting performance in the league. That is pure West Ham, small-time mentality.
If we want to have a team that justifies a £1600 season ticket, we need a different manager (along with some top signings). The best way to bring success is to be a good team, not a shit one.
I would like to see Ange go , but not in the shoddy classless way it is being done. Even if he stays it’s still been done in a shoddy manner. Hopefully if he gets the sack he throws Levy under the bus .
Clearly I do not mean literally throw him under the bus , I know how sensitive his defence force can get . So no righteous indignation please about it being disgusting advocating for the assassination of our dear leader .
Clearly I do not mean literally throw him under the bus , I know how sensitive his defence force can get . So no righteous indignation please about it being disgusting advocating for the assassination of our dear leader .
These nutters and the recently brainwashed existing Spurs fans are gonna be a problem for years.
The man literally has a cult. It's insane. The whole thing is incomprehensible to a normal, sane person.
Harry Redknap on Talksport this morning, reckons the longer the silence from Spurs, the more worrying it is for Postecoglou (this is another response from me to those who continue to claim that Spurs don't need to say anything if The Post is staying in post).
In my opinion, Redknap knows how these things work.
In my opinion, Redknap knows how these things work.
Hahahahahhaa
- Has never beaten Woolwich
- Has never beaten Chelsea
- Has one pointless win in a first leg of a cup competition over Liverpool before losing the overall tie 4-1. One league win over them when they were down to 9, otherwise they have shredded us repeatedly.
‘we can beat anyone’ is such a pointless statement lol, almost every prem team has some scalps against the big teams. Our big game record under him is absolutely mediocre and we lose far more than we win.
finish on 38 points. get the sack. no serious club keeps the manager on after that points haul
nah maybe at a serious club, but if we finished 4th without a trophy for the next 8 years that would be a dream from Daniel , and some of fans too no doubt
The Poch final - the performance was terrible - sure they were the better team but it was just a terrible managerial performance from him - lacked any inspiration, and ideas - nothing... This was quite consistent from him in semi-finals and finals..... its ok to lose if it feels like we're actually competing, I guess....
Also, the Chelsea game was a semi-final vs a team we had beaten 2-0 a couple of months earlier - he played Son WB weirdly and started Walker on the bench.
The Spursy thing here is that it could well mean another season of Ange making us even worse.