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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 72 64.3%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.7%

  • Total voters
    112
Keep seeing the pic of Noclou with the cup.





Based on that logic, should have given this one years and years and years. Show ambition Tottenham, fuck sake.


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While Poch was our most successful manager in decades and was leaps and bounds superior to Ange in terms of his tenure at the club, the failure to bring silverware is a stain on his record and ultimately the pairing of those two things, the standard of competitive excellence he reached without a trophy to punctuate it, caused a years-long nervous breakdown at the club.

No trophies isn't success, it's absolutely poisonous for a club billing itself among the global elite, it just cannot be narratively and psychologically sustained here, Woolwich, anywhere.

We don't have to pretend Ange's performance was better than it was in order to be very, very grateful that he closed that wound. The club was collapsing under the weight of what it had failed to do during Poch's greatness.

And if his achievement allows Thomas Frank to join the small fraternity of trophy winning managers at Spurs in his very first game, that gift will have kept on giving.


Two caveats have to be included here though. The squad Poch walked into, and the subsequent early windows additions gave him a vastly superior team/squad in relation to the the league at the time than Ange has had in similar relation to this current league, which is the second caveat, the inferior PL in 2015-2017. As time wore on, and the recruitment got worse and the PL got better Poch started looking less great, as you would expect.

It's also worth pointing out that with a much better squad, Poch finished one place below Ange in 23/24.
 
Two caveats have to be included here though. The squad Poch walked into, and the subsequent early windows additions gave him a vastly superior team/squad in relation to the the league at the time than Ange has had in similar relation to this current league, which is the second caveat, the inferior PL in 2015-2017. As time wore on, and the recruitment got worse and the PL got better Poch started looking less great, as you would expect.

It's also worth pointing out that with a much better squad, Poch finished one place below Ange in 23/24.

This is why comparisons to what someone achieved in the PL 10 years ago are irrelevant.

The league was completely different and much less competitive for the top clubs when playing the likes of Palace, Bournemouth, Fulham, Villa etc...
 
It will be interesting to see where he ends up. Also if he has realised that his system is flawed. After all he won the title by not playing Ange-ball.
 
It will be interesting to see where he ends up. Also if he has realised that his system is flawed. After all he won the title by not playing Ange-ball.
There has been a lot of analysis of his “stubbornness” since he was sacked by multiple media outlets and internet nerds and most have said that he wasn’t as inflexible as has been made out.
Anywho, he’s gone now. Agree be interesting to see where he ends up. If he stays in the PL he’ll have no choice but to learn from his mistakes.
If it’s international football it will be all out Angeball.
 
It will be interesting to see where he ends up. Also if he has realised that his system is flawed. After all he won the title by not playing Ange-ball.

The system is 'flawed' in a league where you don't have the best players, that's already been proven.

If he stays in this league he will have to alter it, if he goes back to a league like the SPL then he doesn't need to.
 
Ange is our most successful manager since Burkinshaw

Like it or not
The fact that we finished 17th in the Premier League may be due to the system.
I think high pressing and quick counterattacks are a good system.

But for me, the many injured players who would normally have been in the starting lineup were one of the main reasons for our disastrous performance in the Premier League.

And not everyone is immediately fully fit after an injury.

No matter!

Winning the Europa League is something special! Not every coach can claim this success with their team.
Ange has the team, and with him, the team has achieved this great goal and will be playing in the Champions League starting in September!

Thanks to everyone involved!
 
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