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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I definitely wouldn’t bring in the guy who oversaw a league doom spiral for us and then oversaw a league doom spiral for Forest. Ange has proven utterly incapable of rescuing a team in very bad league form, so I’m definitely not convinced a token speech from him is going to achieve anything. I also think the players would find it as embarrassing a prospect as I do.

If we’re going down the slightly cringy route then idk, hire a jester or something to cheer them up. Is Bielsa available? He’s mental enough to do some nutty things that might give them self belief. Throwing shit at the wall and all that.

Sure but you hate the guy. The players don't. Rightly or wrongly they love him - because he made them believe. And delivered.

Yes it's absolutely insane but so is the situation we're in. Hail mary and all that
 
Do you think if they lost to Bodo that would make Bodo a better side & a greater scalp than Atletico, or do you think the way knockout competitions work isn’t as linear as all that.

Bodo can cause surprises. It won’t change the fact every team in the world would rather play them than Atletico, who have a much better team of footballers more likely to win games.
It’s not a surprise when Bodo beat teams that you would consider harder to beat than those in our Europa run.

It’s not a surprise because they do it regularly. Thats because they are a champions league level team
 
It’s not a surprise when Bodo beat teams that you would consider harder to beat than those in our Europa run.

It’s not a surprise because they do it regularly. Thats because they are a champions league level team

Lol this is literally the first time ever they’ve qualified for a CL league or group stage.

They’re an awkward team with a shit pitch who throw teams. They aren’t a CL level team in terms of quality or their players would be getting snapped up double time because they’re all on a fraction of a CL level teams wage. They’re paid less than Wrexham.

I would put serious money on Atletico navigating them in a knockout scenario anyway.
 
Sure but you hate the guy. The players don't. Rightly or wrongly they love him - because he made them believe. And delivered.

Yes it's absolutely insane but so is the situation we're in. Hail mary and all that

I don’t hate him. I don’t understand why fans speak in such terms about a manager with a 40% win rate in this league though. It was 28% last season.

It’s all based on a cup run in extremely different circs. I’m also not sure what “they love him” is based on other than a couple of the players nice words about a departing coach they won something with.

He doesn’t have the recipe for winning premier league games. If he did he’d have done more of it himself at spurs and then Forest.
 
Beating a giant doesn’t make you a giant. Some great boxers have been beaten by not very good ones, it doesn’t make them great. Bodo have had some giant slaying successes in the right environment, they aren’t a giant. Atletico are an infinitely more talented side. Comparing beating Bodo with beating Atletico because Bodo beat Atletico is stupid logic. Bodo also beat City and so did we this season.

Atletico was the first time in Europe either this season or last that we came up against a team with some genuinely elite footballers, other than PSG which we also lost.
I never claimed anything of the sort. I just pointed out facts. You got caught talking bollocks. Man up and own it.
 
I never claimed anything of the sort. I just pointed out facts. You got caught talking bollocks. Man up and own it.

The Ange fanboy happy clapping brigade think I’m talking bollocks and you know what that makes me think .. it’s perfect fucking sense.

I said Atletico were a class above anything we faced in the EL last season. That is absolutely true. Nobody in the EL we played possesses the level of footballer they have.
 
What absolute load of word waffle.

Motivate the players? Like he did in the league last year, to 22 losses? After being found out by every other manager?

Motivated shit, is still shit. And what's the point in his motivation if his tactics don't work anymore and easy to counter?

How brain dead do you have to be to not understand this?
Pep, Arteta and others have also been found. They don't care though. They play their game because they manage big clubs.
Frank, Nuno and others adapt their game on the opponent.
Spot the difference.
And choose side.
 
Lol this is literally the first time ever they’ve qualified for a CL league or group stage.

They’re an awkward team with a shit pitch who throw teams. They aren’t a CL level team in terms of quality or their players would be getting snapped up double time because they’re all on a fraction of a CL level teams wage. They’re paid less than Wrexham.

I would put serious money on Atletico navigating them in a knockout scenario anyway.

Look at the teams they’ve beaten in Europe the last 2-3 seasons
 
The Ange fanboy happy clapping brigade think I’m talking bollocks and you know what that makes me think .. it’s perfect fucking sense.

I said Atletico were a class above anything we faced in the EL last season. That is absolutely true. Nobody in the EL we played possesses the level of footballer they have.
So, when you are wrong your modus operandi is to indulge in name calling. Sad.
 
Yeah, on the final matchday to make the knockouts.
They’ll have no trouble repeating that in the actual knockouts then.


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I know it’s mad given last seasons record and I agreed with the sacking. But I would sooner Ange come and and gee up the players who clearly like him than the likes of Harry, Mason, Sherwood and all the other Spurs related names that are being mentioned. He’s the only realistic one I can see that could get a tune quickly and that might actually consider it.

We stay up? Them him for his time and get a proper project manager in.

We go down? See if Robbie Keane is up for the gig. Champo probably better for him than straight into PL. Or McKenna or Carrick if by some miracle he doesn’t get the Utd gig
 
The Ange fanboy happy clapping brigade think I’m talking bollocks and you know what that makes me think .. it’s perfect fucking sense.

I said Atletico were a class above anything we faced in the EL last season. That is absolutely true. Nobody in the EL we played possesses the level of footballer they have.

We currently have one of if not the worst form team in the league. Our keeper had a calamatious night. Yet we scored twice, might have a third, at their home. Atletico are not all that. Its not a foregone conclusion that over two legs they would beat Bodo.
 
We currently have one of if not the worst form team in the league. Our keeper had a calamatious night. Yet we scored twice, might have a third, at their home. Atletico are not all that. Its not a foregone conclusion that over two legs they would beat Bodo.

It’s not because over two legs things can happen, it’s knockout football. In any league situation they’d finish very far behind them though, because they are a much less talented and deep team without the likes of Alvarez and Griezmann.

In Europe I have seen Di Matteo’s by then miles past it, flailing Chelsea team beat almost peak Barcelona and an incredible Bayern side. It happens.

Bodo have had some very impressive recent results that would probably not be sustained for long. They conceded 30 shots and 70% of the ball to inter but won. That happens extremely rarely I.e Celtic beating peak Barca rarely.

They’re a good plucky outfit who can go on a run but also lose to Gala, Valarenga, draw to Sparta Prague etc. Generally depends on time of season & the artificial pitch is a bitch.
 
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