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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Injuries impacted Micky and Romero, but they barely featured in the league from March despite being fit as they were rested for Europa.

yeah 3 league wins on the bounce in Feb guaranteed safety.

But the Lineups for league games through April May were quite something. Kinsky in goal, Reguilon on the pitch Gray Cb, Moore RW, Kulu CF.
Did actually play Spencer RB though!

And we ended the season with same goals scored as 4th place Chelsea.
Go figure.
 
It's because he won silverware, and it's blinkered the opinions of to many fans.

They all got caught up in a magical moment and completely forget the rest of the absolute shit show around it, including the performance of the game itself.

Respect him for winning the cup yes, but don't excuse the rest of the shit that fat Aussie prick did and how far back he set us, along with that bald prick that hired him.
Correct,haven’t forgot that he actually got us in 5th spot in his first year to enable us win the Europa by qualifying,it seems like you have or maybe you can turn it around to suit your argument
 
Definitely don't want the manager who told the players it's fine to lose week in week out in the Premier League so we can win Europe's second tier competition back. He's a prime part of this rot we're in.

The main reason we are here is Thomas Frank.

Some of the worst xG in the history of the premier league as he didn’t know or want to coach attacking patterns of play.

Give it to kudus. That’s it. His attacking tactical nous.

You can’t blame Big Ange the Aussie Winner for little Thomas franks coaching malaise.
 
Definitely don't want the manager who told the players it's fine to lose week in week out in the Premier League so we can win Europe's second tier competition back. He's a prime part of this rot we're in.

If Ange has stamped his authority on these players so much that they still think it's acceptable to lose matches this season then I expect the same players to lift the Champions League seeing as they're still evoking the habits of last season.
 
The main reason we are here is Thomas Frank.

Some of the worst xG in the history of the premier league as he didn’t know or want to coach attacking patterns of play.

Give it to kudus. That’s it. His attacking tactical nous.

You can’t blame Big Ange the Aussie Winner for little Thomas franks coaching malaise.

Yeah Frank is probably even shitter than Ange which is saying something. I wouldn't want him back either...
 
Maybe so much time on the sidelines affected VDVs mindset too.
I think the damage with VDV was definitely done this season. If there was a genuine rapport between the players and Ange, the board should have been sensitive to that. They were in a position to know the true nature of the relationship between the players and Ange. If the players had faith that the league form would improve under Ange and believed in their manager, that should have been all the board needed to know to stick with Ange.

The only conclusion we can draw from the way things have played out this season is that the board made the decision with no understanding of the relationship in the dressing room and the players have refused to form a new relationship with either Frank or Tudor. Again, this is something that the board should have been aware of and acted upon much sooner i.e. in October as Paratici recommended.

This is definitely where we've missed Levy. Levy was definitely capable of sacking Ange in error but he would have rectified things under Frank much sooner. This is what happened with Martin Jol. Jol was sacked and when it became clear that the players were not taking to Ramos he brought in Redknapp.

There is no future for the club beyond the sacking of Vinai Venkatesham and replacing him with a competent CEO.
 
My hope is for big Ange to come back after the Liverpool game, take the presser for the match against Forest and give the media and journalists a real peace of mind. I don't even care if we will be winning that game or relegating anymore. I just want a face who, when wearing our fucking badge, can speak well and proper English, front things and protect the club and players against all those fucking noises and criticisms and give the club a lift. Because we will be down to the ashes after the Liverpool game, not even bones will be left.
 
Correct,haven’t forgot that he actually got us in 5th spot in his first year to enable us win the Europa by qualifying,it seems like you have or maybe you can turn it around to suit your argument
:wall:

Oh really? We got 5th spot because our performances at the end of that season was so poor we actually through a CL spot away, after beating Aston Villa 4-0, to put us in the driving seat. Even then, if you take away the first 10 games of the season, we would have finished mid table probably in the bottom half of the table too, if we had maintained that consistency throughout the season.

After those first 10 games, we was on downward spiral, the football getting worse, the results, everything...

Not turning anything around, I am just not forgetting what happen, unlike so many other people.
 
My hope is for big Ange to come back after the Liverpool game, take the presser for the match against Forest and give the media and journalists a real peace of mind. I don't even care if we will be winning that game or relegating anymore. I just want a face who, when wearing our fucking badge, can speak well and proper English, front things and protect the club and players against all those fucking noises and criticisms and give the club a lift. Because we will be down to the ashes after the Liverpool game, not even bones will be left.
You want us relegated don't you?
 
Bring him back. We need him in charge for Forest game. 3 points guaranteed.

Interesting reading on defenders league starts his Season 2.

Kinsky 6
Forster 7
Danso 10
VDV 12
Dragusin 13
Davies 14
Romero 18
Gray 19.

Relied on Archie Gray as a CB far too much. Maybe so much time on the sidelines affected VDVs mindset too.

1/3 of the season with Forster / Kinsky. I’ve mentally blocked that from my mind too!!
Most people have short memory. We all know that. And the proof is elections.
 
My hope is for big Ange to come back after the Liverpool game, take the presser for the match against Forest and give the media and journalists a real peace of mind. I don't even care if we will be winning that game or relegating anymore. I just want a face who, when wearing our fucking badge, can speak well and proper English, front things and protect the club and players against all those fucking noises and criticisms and give the club a lift. Because we will be down to the ashes after the Liverpool game, not even bones will be left.

We need that media facing aggressive rather irritable Ange to just be annoyed with everyone outside the club and create a full on seige mentality.

It’s do or die time.
 
Issue with Ange is his system. Inverted full backs to push the wingers wide. Odobert and Kudus are injured so we have no one.

When Igor goes after Liverpool it cannot be a system manager. Need some to put out players in their correct positions whatever that formation might be against Forest. Someone who could play something like the below at Forest so we have a semblance of team balance.

Vicario
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Gallagher Palhinha Gray
Muani Solanke Tel
 
Issue with Ange is his system. Inverted full backs to push the wingers wide. Odobert and Kudus are injured so we have no one.

When Igor goes after Liverpool it cannot be a system manager. Need some to put out players in their correct positions whatever that formation might be against Forest. Someone who could play something like the below at Forest so we have a semblance of team balance.

Vicario
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Palhinha Gray Gallagher
Muani Solanke Tel
Thing is Igor gave it “players playing how best suits them” before playing 3 at the back, Porro at CB, Gallagher at RW, Solanke in central midfield and then Kinsky in goal.
 
Have a good hard think about the manager telling the players it’s fine to lose week in week out. How did this get communicated?

Do you think he stood up at a team meeting and said that it was fine to lose? Please offer some context to your fantasy.

He explicitly came out and said they sacked off the league to win the Europa? Personally I think that was just him rewriting history to cover for his inability to perform for shit in the Premier League but he definitely came out and said it.

What do you think losing every fucking week does to the mentality of players?

If anyone is living in a fantasy it's those in our fanbase that give Ange a pass for historically poor results simply because he said mate a lot and talked like someone down the pub.
 
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