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Manager Antonio Conte

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Since the team has an option on his services next year all he had to say when asked about next year was "That's not my decision." You get the feeling he took a job he didn't really want and has been saying whatever he needed to in order to get out of it since.
 
I mean fair enough but why? He's sent us out early of every cup we've been in under him. Lost to Mura, lost to Sheffield, lost to Middlesbrough, lost to Forest, and then lost in the first round to a very poor Milan team.

We're not winning the league under Conte, we all agree on this right? And so far his record in every other competition has been objectively awful. So I don't get where the 'our best bet at a trophy' sentiment comes from, I can see an argument for our best best at staying in/around top 4 but winning something? No.

I see your point but some of those losses can't sorely be blamed on Conte.

Personally, I think as fans, we're not being patient enough with Conte. If he wants to stay (*which is a big if*) I think he deserves another year, another summer transfer window, and to continue to build on what he has been doing so far. Its only going to be 18 months in June.

I know I'm probably in the minority but I look at our potential replacements as managers and nothing really screams to me that we will improve. I'd rather stay the course for another year with Conte.

We're improving compared to when he first arrived, I don't think we have regressed since last season, I think expectation as grown, which is fair but we are not there yet. I say give him time and we could get there sooner than some might expect.
 
I see your point but some of those losses can't sorely be blamed on Conte.

Personally, I think as fans, we're not being patient enough with Conte. If he wants to stay (*which is a big if*) I think he deserves another year, another summer transfer window, and to continue to build on what he has been doing so far. Its only going to be 18 months in June.

I know I'm probably in the minority but I look at our potential replacements as managers and nothing really screams to me that we will improve. I'd rather stay the course for another year with Conte.

We're improving compared to when he first arrived, I don't think we have regressed since last season, I think expectation as grown, which is fair but we are not there yet. I say give him time and we could get there sooner than some might expect.

We have....

PPG is down
The cup runs were worse.
The defense is worse.
The football is worse.

There may be caveats up for debate, but that's the raw bones of it.
 
I see your point but some of those losses can't sorely be blamed on Conte.

Personally, I think as fans, we're not being patient enough with Conte. If he wants to stay (*which is a big if*) I think he deserves another year, another summer transfer window, and to continue to build on what he has been doing so far. Its only going to be 18 months in June.

I know I'm probably in the minority but I look at our potential replacements as managers and nothing really screams to me that we will improve. I'd rather stay the course for another year with Conte.

We're improving compared to when he first arrived, I don't think we have regressed since last season, I think expectation as grown, which is fair but we are not there yet. I say give him time and we could get there sooner than some might expect.

No, but I think the overall pattern makes the "our best shot at a trophy = Conte" logic look questionable. Our best shot at a trophy is clearly a cup, and Conte historically isn't good at winning cups. He's a league specialist.

Conte is a big influence over the lack of patience fans have shown. He's not signed a contract and hasn't committed to us. Why should fans back him through bad football & rough results when the man himself hasn't ever really seemed like he wants to stay long term?

He got a summer transfer window with decent spending and a pre-season and we've gotten worse from where we were before said summer.
 
No, but I think the overall pattern makes the "our best shot at a trophy = Conte" logic look questionable. Our best shot at a trophy is clearly a cup, and Conte historically isn't good at winning cups. He's a league specialist.

Conte is a big influence over the lack of patience fans have shown. He's not signed a contract and hasn't committed to us. Why should fans back him through bad football & rough results when the man himself hasn't ever really seemed like he wants to stay long term?

He got a summer transfer window with decent spending and a pre-season and we've gotten worse from where we were before said summer.

I agree that he hasn't been very convincing in his interviews, and looks likely to go. But like I said, I think it's a mistake. Last season when we went on our 10 games unbeaten run or w/e it was, we looked good and the fans were completely behind him. Now, things are not as easy but I think that was always going to happen given where we were as a club when he started.

Winning a trophy is more important to me as fan than finishing top 4, 100%. And I do believe Conte has that will power to win a trophy with Tottenham, like he did last season when he helped us get top 4. I don't think this squad is deep enough to compete in multiple competition yet. The regression of Son and Kulusevski this season hasn't helped either. Our lack of depth at the CB positions hurt us and I believe is the reason why we are out in both the CL and FA cup.

But one advantage of finishing in the top 4 for a club like ours is the additional revenue. That helps us buy better players in the summer. I think Dier and Davies are good enough squad players but we need to upgrade on them, and we're going to need a new Keeper.

Instead of "starting over" with a new manager, let's back Conte another season, build on what we have.
 
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I agree that he hasn't been very convincing in his interviews, and looks likely to go. But like I said, I think it's a mistake. Last season when we went on our 10 games unbeaten run or w/e it was, we looked good and the fans were completely behind him. Now, things are not as easy but I think that was always going to happen given where we were as a club when he started.

Winning a trophy is more important to me as fan than finishing top 4, 100%. And I do believe Conte has that will power to win a trophy with Tottenham, like he did last season when he helped us get top 4. I don't think this squad is deep enough to compete in multiple competition yet. The regression of Son and Kulusevski this season hasn't helped either. Our lack of depth at the CB positions hurt us and I believe is the reason why we are out in both the CL and FA cup.

But one advantage of finishing in the top 4 for a club like ours is the additional revenue. That helps us buy better players in the summer. I think Dier and Davies are good enough squad players but we need to upgrade on them, and we're going to need a new Keeper.

Instead of "starting over" with a new manager, let's back Conte another season, build on what we have.

I respect your opinion despite not really being a Conte fan .. but I think it's all moot anyway because as far as I can tell he doesn't really want to be here. And short of offering him the world (which we won't do, and I'm personally not convinced we should do) I don't think that will change.

If we got top 4 and Conte was enthusiastic about staying I do think Levy would put a contract offer on the table. He'd have got top 4 back to back which is what Levy values most & what no coach since Poch has come close to getting us. But I really just think Conte wants to return to Italy.
 
I respect your opinion despite not really being a Conte fan .. but I think it's all moot anyway because as far as I can tell he doesn't really want to be here. And short of offering him the world (which we won't do, and I'm personally not convinced we should do) I don't think that will change.

If we got top 4 and Conte was enthusiastic about staying I do think Levy would put a contract offer on the table. He'd have got top 4 back to back which is what Levy values most & what no coach since Poch has come close to getting us. But I really just think Conte wants to return to Italy.

Honestly there's still 11 games to go this season, and in football things can change so quickly, for better or for worst. Conte could get sacked if we lose on Saturday and I wouldn't be shocked. What will determine his job safety is if we're making top 4 or not.

"The Levy Cup"
 
we had in form players for the run in last season, Son Kulu etc
this season Son has been poor (out of form) yet Conte hasn't played Richy why?
didn't he want Richy ? sorry but that's who you have
if he doesn't want to play Richy change the system
if we have injuries and the next player in line is not good enough change the system
coach the player to make him better
what does Conte do ? nothing
if that is worth £15m to him & maybe £6m to his coaches the games gone mad
 
we had in form players for the run in last season, Son Kulu etc
this season Son has been poor (out of form) yet Conte hasn't played Richy why?
didn't he want Richy ? sorry but that's who you have
if he doesn't want to play Richy change the system
if we have injuries and the next player in line is not good enough change the system
coach the player to make him better
luckily the next coach can only do better
 
Conte looks rough as fuck in his interview...

He looks broken.... but at least we haven't turned him grey!
We've turned 3 of our last managers grey..... But NOT Tony!!

Good on him, HEAD OF STEEL! he won't break! he's bigger wigger than that!
 
He's gone.... It's clear.
It doesn't take a genius to work it out.

Need to sort out a replacement asap.... Cos it ain't gonna be Tony!
 


Damn. Tifo football made a video about how painful our playstyle is


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