Manager Antonio Conte

[Skippa18]

Really can't get my head around some wanting to sack Conte.

We're still in top 4 and champs league still have FA cup.

We have been missing some key players recently.
And some have underperformed.

Been barely a year since he arrived. The football hasn't been great and some poor showings. But I firmly believe it's not how you start but how you finish, he needs more time.

Can't sack him as soon as things get a bit tough he is one of the best out there the players certainly still want him as the recent comebacks suggest that.

He is the right man for the job.

 

[Maureen]

I'm not actively Conte out by any means, but with what has been served up on the pitch this season, and his stubborn insistence on choosing Emerson Royal no matter what, he can go now or at the end of the season for all I care, I wouldn't shed any tears.

Before he came I thought he was exactly the sort of character to sort out our weak mentality and poor attitude when the chips are down, to do what I had previously thought Mourinho could, but the apathy shown by the players repeatedly and for sustained periods this season suggest that even he is not the right guy for that task.

If we're not going to win stuff then I'd rather at least enjoy the football that I can't stop myself from sitting through. I don't care for this talk that he needs more transfer windows, more backing from the board, a Bastoni, a Hakimi etc. Lacking these players is no excuse for the dross that has been on display this season.

Somehow we have regressed, we had some abysmal performances last year, the string of defeats including Wolves and Southampton at home was my worst feeling under Conte, but that was fleeting, this is now sustained and he shows no signs of changing things.

I can accept that the forward line has been depleted by injury of late, but that doesn't excuse away the entire team playing like shit.

As I said to begin with, I wouldn't be shedding any tears if he departed, not until we announce the glorious return of a previous manager as his replacement anyway...

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He sets the tone with the chips down attitude and apathy by the way we play. We play as if we are beaten even before getting on the pitch. Said it before his never positive even in interviews. The Chelsea games last season basically told me his attitude.

 

[Maureen]

Really can't get my head around some wanting to sack Conte.

We're still in top 4 and champs league still have FA cup.

We have been missing some key players recently.
And some have underperformed.

Been barely a year since he arrived. The football hasn't been great and some poor showings. But I firmly believe it's not how you start but how you finish, he needs more time.

Can't sack him as soon as things get a bit tough he is one of the best out there the players certainly still want him as the recent comebacks suggest that.

He is the right man for the job.

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Let’s see now his been manager fir doestoc competitions and in both games v boro and Forrest he has played a strong team but set us to play as if we weren’t bothered. Not great record so far.

 

[Maureen]

It's always a bit of both, pal.

I'm not one of the #ConteOUT brigade, but I never was his biggest fan either. To me, he's like Mourinho in that to be successful, he needs to be at the top club in its league and/or have pretty much an unlimited budget at his disposal. Yes, he's turned players like Victor Moses into top performers and at a new position for them, but apart from that I can't recall him working much magic. So why was he appointed at Spurs in the first place, one might wonder (rather legitimately)?

Our squad as a whole isn't good enough to contend for the title, that's for damn certain, and that's mainly on our board and Mr Fabio & his predecessors (fuck you, Stevie H). A fair few of our players are underperforming this season (and previous), that's mainly on them. But Conte too has been off it, he ain't getting away with it scot-free.

He's been stubborn, rigid, and I understand those who go as far as using the word deluded. He clearly ought to take a long, hard look at his own performance...but I think his ego and pride might prevent that from happening. I think he's more likely to walk away than face the challenge head-on.

Anyway, point is: you win as a club, you fail as a club.

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This thing about moses is always trotted out just one player! Was he a donkey to start with? From what I recall he was a very good footballer at Wigan hence chavs buying him. Remember he played WB but prbly had more licence to play wide right as they had Kanti and matic in cm plus a hole host of other good players. He didn’t a worm into a silk purse let’s get this straight.

 

[Maureen]

I think it was Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu who said ;
“Give a man a Royal , he will win the odd game, give a man a fishing rod & he’ll win the champions league “

Give the man the right tools for the job

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He picks royal no matter what!

 

[Maureen]

Give him nothing until he commits long term.

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Exactly no point getting players prbly from Italy who are late 202 and unproven in the pl. younger players yes.

 

[Skippa18]

Let’s see now his been manager fir doestoc competitions and in both games v boro and Forrest he has played a strong team but set us to play as if we weren’t bothered. Not great record so far.

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He really doesn't strike me as a man who isn't bothered or one who will throw a game.

Sometimes he gets it wrong and clearly doesn't give players games if he feels they don't deserve it.

He has his flaws of course but he is still the right man for the job

 

[Furball man]

He picks royal no matter what!

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He’s tried others & isn’t impressed . He works with the players every day & has a little more knowledge than we do . Maybe Royal , having extra training is showing Conte that he’s trying . We’ve struggled with wingbacks for years now , it’s been a problem that hasn’t been addressed for ages. I’m sure he’s given Levy or Paratici a list , he probably did in the summer but nothing was done .

 

[rusty]

He’s tried others & isn’t impressed . He works with the players every day & has a little more knowledge than we do . Maybe Royal , having extra training is showing Conte that he’s trying . We’ve struggled with wingbacks for years now , it’s been a problem that hasn’t been addressed for ages. I’m sure he’s given Levy or Paratici a list , he probably did in the summer but nothing was done .

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Conte will be like all managers & coaches they have faverites and others they take a dislike too, (sometimes not based on anything other than how they feel about the player/person)

 

[Furball man]

Conte will be like all managers & coaches they have faverites and others they take a dislike too, (sometimes not based on anything other than how they feel about the player/person)

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Personally I’d give Spence a run out but he doesn’t seem to be in his plans , he admitted that he didn’t ask for him but maybe he’ll be forced into choosing him as creatively & pace-wise we are devoid of both.

I think we’ve made a few decent purchases of late but we are way off strengthening our XI. We’ve been promised so many times , remember levy’s letter ? It seems like it’s always “ next window “

 

[GOAT]

Really can't get my head around some wanting to sack Conte.

We're still in top 4 and champs league still have FA cup.

We have been missing some key players recently.
And some have underperformed.

Been barely a year since he arrived. The football hasn't been great and some poor showings. But I firmly believe it's not how you start but how you finish, he needs more time.

Can't sack him as soon as things get a bit tough he is one of the best out there the players certainly still want him as the recent comebacks suggest that.

He is the right man for the job.

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He is.

He just needs the backing to be able to do his things.

 

[GOAT]

Let’s see now his been manager fir doestoc competitions and in both games v boro and Forrest he has played a strong team but set us to play as if we weren’t bothered. Not great record so far.

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Well that’s just a pure lie. Bin voted for trolling.

 

[Herclueless]

Conte will be like all managers & coaches they have faverites and others they take a dislike too, (sometimes not based on anything other than how they feel about the player/person)

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This is true, but I still just cannot get my head around the Emerson situation, if I were a Manager I would take a strong dislike to a player if they were so terrible at football that it was actively hindering the teams success!

There is no room for personal feelings when every single attack down our right implodes the moment Emerson gets involved...

 

[TheSpurEst]

And they finished below us last season, what’s your point?

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Hahahah, that is proper funny shit here.

So you are saying that we should look at taking over Newcastle squad (!) in bottom of the league (!) being equal challenge compared to taking over Spurs squad (!) being on 9th place (!) ?!?

Oh what a fucking idiot Howe has to be. What a pathetic failure that he did not manage to take over team 10 places higher in the table with likes of Wood and Wilson up front against some no name Kane and Son. Total fucking failure, I say. Surprising Newcastle have not sacked the idiot yet!

REALLY?? REALLY-REALLY????

 

[TheSpurEst]

Why does capital with the fans even come into it, and sack him for what?

• Qualifying for the knock-out stages of the CL
• being 4th going into the WC where some players are obviously nervous of injuries?
• For having a depleted squad due to injuries and not trusting fringe players?
• For saying to compete, we need two more transfer windows?
• For saying lots of games in a short space of time has fatigued players?
• For getting knocked out of a nothing cup

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I agree with you on the point of playing beautiful football vs getting the results. It is stupid to suggest that nice play tops it all.

But when I look at your list, I'd like to add some comments -

• Qualifying for the knock-out stages of the CL - yea, well... we did... but did you also see HOW we did it. Not in terms of playing style. But did it looked like assured job really? We were out of it as things stood before final 45 minutes.
• being 4th going into the WC where some players are obviously nervous of injuries? - we had really nice run in first 7 games with 5 wins and 2 draws; 17 points from 21 possible (schedule for 92 points over season). But do not forget - after international break we have fallen off a cliff - following 7 games have produced 4 defeats and 3 wins. That is 12 out of 21 - tempo which would take us to 65 points over full season. I guarantee you - if we continue like this, we will not be finishing higher than 8th place. Yes, we might go to WC on 4th place. But 3 following teams have 1 game less played, that makes our position more vulnerable.
• For having a depleted squad due to injuries and not trusting fringe players? - yes, in fact not trusting your fringie players is massive issue. And it goes together well with your point about lots of games and fatigued players. If you start and finish 100% of your games with PEH and Bentancur in midfield, their performance levels will be impacted and fatigue will build. But that is not inevitable. This is done by choice.
• For saying to compete, we need two more transfer windows? - not for that. But it is simple - over summer he got in 6 players, lost none that were in his plans. Yet we are worse than we were last season.
• For saying lots of games in a short space of time has fatigued players? - look 2 points above.
• For getting knocked out of a nothing cup - yes.
  For getting kicked out by 2nd string players of the weakest team in EPL while INTENTIONALLY PILING FATIQUE AND INTENTONALLY KILLING ANY KIND OF MOTIVATION of less favored players. This is just not how you run a squad. It is monumental fuckup and embarrasment for the club. Just think what impact it had on various groups -
  - fans - embarrassed for getting kicked out
  - first teamers - further fatigue being piled up on them as a result of Conte's choice + hardly motivating being kicked out
  - 2nd string players - seeing that even if other stronger teams rotate in such cup, Spurs do not. You see that your manager has 0 trust in you and quite frankly do not give a fuck about you being in the squad or not. Motivation further impacted by the fact that losing this means no further games in this competition either.

So not all is that brilliant and nice...
But I hope we somehow manage to win the last game before WC. It would give some more hope for the future.

 

[Top_Spur]

It’s not a great post. It’s the same shit we have heard from Conte backers every time.

1. Getting us into top four last season was great. But it’s not like it was a miracle. We had a talented squad and were fortunate that Woolwich choked at Newcastle. We played great for the second half of the season but still slipped up a few times.

2. Being fourth right now. Again, lucky Liverpool and Chelsea (both teams that have beat us) are playing worse than us or else we would be 6th. We have been outplayed in more games than not this season. We have not scored in the first half 8 straight games and have gone 2-0 down in 5 straight domestic games. It’s pathetic for the talent we have.

3. Injuries to Richarlison and Kulu hurt. No doubt. But not trying fringe players is all on Conte. He gives them one chance to play and if they make a minor mistake they are gone. Or in Spence’s case, not even a chance. You need to play players consistently to get them in form. Not one game a month.

4. Conte has been crying about transfer windows since day 1 and is still saying “two windows away”

5. Maybe if Conte rotated our players wouldn’t be so tired. Every other team does it but Conte won’t.

6. Getting knocked out is one thing. Being embarrassed by playing our A team and losing to a relegation B team is the problem.

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It wasn't a miracle getting us in the top four? Did you not see what we were like in the period under Nuno? We also did our bit in a big game against Woolwich winning 3-0. Would you have said we would have got top 4 at the start of the season?

We're fourth now for a reason, because we've picked up enough points to get us into fourth. I understand the frustration and would get it if we were sitting down in 9th but I don't believe we are seeing the full potential of the team.

The injuries have been a massive one. No Kulu who is a massive part of the way we play, then Richarlison gets injured and then Son. You take those types of attacking players out of other teams and see how they get on.

I see Djed Spence seems to be the answer to this clubs problems. Play him and everything will be okay. He had a good season in the Championship, couldn't get in Middlesbrough side yet you want him playing in a top four team? What happens if he plays and he doesn't turn out to be he messiah everyone thinks? I'm sure people will jump on the bandwagon.

I agree with the rotation point, there are times when the first 11 could have been rotated better. What makes me laugh though is there's people that come on here and openly slag off some of the squad players and say they're crap yet expect Conte to play them? Conte has already said that he needs another two windows which pretty much most people on here agree with so why are people getting worked up about our squad so much when it's obvious the club are trying to improve it but it can't be done quickly.

This season is weird, we have played pretty much a game every few days. A lot of teams are only playing 1 game a week so you can understand why the players are fatigued or because they get a lot of money they should be able to run forever and put in the same effort and commitment every single week because they arnt humans but robots.

 

[GOAT]

I agree with you on the point of playing beautiful football vs getting the results. It is stupid to suggest that nice play tops it all.

But when I look at your list, I'd like to add some comments -

• Qualifying for the knock-out stages of the CL - yea, well... we did... but did you also see HOW we did it. Not in terms of playing style. But did it looked like assured job really? We were out of it as things stood before final 45 minutes.
• being 4th going into the WC where some players are obviously nervous of injuries? - we had really nice run in first 7 games with 5 wins and 2 draws; 17 points from 21 possible (schedule for 92 points over season). But do not forget - after international break we have fallen off a cliff - following 7 games have produced 4 defeats and 3 wins. That is 12 out of 21 - tempo which would take us to 65 points over full season. I guarantee you - if we continue like this, we will not be finishing higher than 8th place. Yes, we might go to WC on 4th place. But 3 following teams have 1 game less played, that makes our position more vulnerable.
• For having a depleted squad due to injuries and not trusting fringe players? - yes, in fact not trusting your fringie players is massive issue. And it goes together well with your point about lots of games and fatigued players. If you start and finish 100% of your games with PEH and Bentancur in midfield, their performance levels will be impacted and fatigue will build. But that is not inevitable. This is done by choice.
• For saying to compete, we need two more transfer windows? - not for that. But it is simple - over summer he got in 6 players, lost none that were in his plans. Yet we are worse than we were last season.
• For saying lots of games in a short space of time has fatigued players? - look 2 points above.
• For getting knocked out of a nothing cup - yes.
  For getting kicked out by 2nd string players of the weakest team in EPL while INTENTIONALLY PILING FATIQUE AND INTENTONALLY KILLING ANY KIND OF MOTIVATION of less favored players. This is just not how you run a squad. It is monumental fuckup and embarrasment for the club. Just think what impact it had on various groups -
  - fans - embarrassed for getting kicked out
  - first teamers - further fatigue being piled up on them as a result of Conte's choice + hardly motivating being kicked out
  - 2nd string players - seeing that even if other stronger teams rotate in such cup, Spurs do not. You see that your manager has 0 trust in you and quite frankly do not give a fuck about you being in the squad or not. Motivation further impacted by the fact that losing this means no further games in this competition either.

So not all is that brilliant and nice...
But I hope we somehow manage to win the last game before WC. It would give some more hope for the future.

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We finished top of our group and got robbed in our home game against sporting lisbon. Which you'd know if you actually followed spurs.

Failed to mention that in your biased load of usual old bullshit though, didn't you.

So much of what you've just posted is complete and utter tosh - you joke.

 

[GOAT]

You can disagree with that post all you want, skyclownshoe. That just confirms I am right.

 

[Herclueless]

You can disagree with that post all you want, skyclownshoe. That just confirms I am right.

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[AJL92113]

It wasn't a miracle getting us in the top four? Did you not see what we were like in the period under Nuno? We also did our bit in a big game against Woolwich winning 3-0. Would you have said we would have got top 4 at the start of the season?

We're fourth now for a reason, because we've picked up enough points to get us into fourth. I understand the frustration and would get it if we were sitting down in 9th but I don't believe we are seeing the full potential of the team.

The injuries have been a massive one. No Kulu who is a massive part of the way we play, then Richarlison gets injured and then Son. You take those types of attacking players out of other teams and see how they get on.

I see Djed Spence seems to be the answer to this clubs problems. Play him and everything will be okay. He had a good season in the Championship, couldn't get in Middlesbrough side yet you want him playing in a top four team? What happens if he plays and he doesn't turn out to be he messiah everyone thinks? I'm sure people will jump on the bandwagon.

I agree with the rotation point, there are times when the first 11 could have been rotated better. What makes me laugh though is there's people that come on here and openly slag off some of the squad players and say they're crap yet expect Conte to play them? Conte has already said that he needs another two windows which pretty much most people on here agree with so why are people getting worked up about our squad so much when it's obvious the club are trying to improve it but it can't be done quickly.

This season is weird, we have played pretty much a game every few days. A lot of teams are only playing 1 game a week so you can understand why the players are fatigued or because they get a lot of money they should be able to run forever and put in the same effort and commitment every single week because they arnt humans but robots.

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Obviously Nuno should have never had the job but Conte took over with plenty of time to get fourth. The talent in squad was always there.

I’m not saying Spence is the answer but he’s the obvious example to Contes ignorance. RWB is so important to the way we play but he continues playing someone who can’t cross better than you or me. It’s pure stubbornness.

I’m not someone that slags off rotation guys because I understand the difficulty. They don’t play often but when they do, they are expected to be perfect. You need to rotate consistently to keep the whole squad fresh.

It’s more Conte lies. Remember his “I don’t want a main XI. I want a full squad.” Comment? Lies. Or when he said nobody can play every fixture but then continued to play the same 7 guys for almost every fixture over 3 weeks?

Like I said, players need to be changed but Conte needs to change his ways to if we want to win a trophy.