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Manager Antonio Conte

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The truth is that all the other clubs in the league and their fans are terrified of the position we’re in. They’ve gotten used to us being mediocre. Now Conte has come in and changed the game. They know we will only get better from here and they are absolutely bricking it.

One thing that I’m wondering is why we never really seem to play a certain way for a whole game.

I get last night, if players needed to rest after Covid, but even so, surely there was a way to keep pressing with the players available?

It was like night and day after the changes and not in a good way.

What really interests me is Contes first window…..I think it will be a massive indication of where he wants to go with us, even if it’s just credible links surfacing before the summer.
 
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I mean it didn’t work out, I also think we just ran out of gas all across the pitch in the last twenty minutes which isn’t surprising considering we’ve barely played or practiced in the last two weeks and had double digit players out with COVID.

Is it really a surprise or indictment on the team/manager that we tired out and chose to sit back a bit with the lead considering the circumstances?

It’s not strange now we know it was due to recovering Covid players, no.
It was strange that people thought it was good tactics not knowing the reason he did it though.

But at the time, not knowing that, it just looked like a very shit tactical change.
I lost my rag the second the scorers were taken off and I saw Winks coming on.

For me, sitting back in a high intensity game like that is Jose and Nuno stuff, so I’m massively relieved that Conte felt the need to explain why he made the changes as it indicates he didn’t like doing it.

It’s clear he wants us to press, and the next two windows should see him sign the players that make it possible as a regular tactic, hopefully killing games before we sit back.
 
One thing that I’m wondering is why we never really seem to play a certain way for a whole game.

I get last night, if players needed to rest after Covid, but even so, surely there was a way to keep pressing with the players available?

It was like night and day after the changes and not in a good way.

What really interests me is Contes first window…..I think it will be a massive indication of where he wants to go with us, even if it’s just credible links surfacing before the summer.
I had asked the same question. It could just very well be that Conte wanted to continue to press but the players could not keep up with West ham meaning West Ham out played us in the second half. Good plans don't always work out...
 
So that confirms they were poor subs…..but at least there was a good reason for it

Amazing how people thought but was a good tactical move though “because Conte did it”

It's amazing to me the axe you seem to want to grind about other people's footballing analysis, when I haven't seen a single insight from you that didn't make me scoff at how biased or shortsighted it is. For instance:

One thing that I’m wondering is why we never really seem to play a certain way for a whole game.

Because tactics, that's why. Unless you are one of Guardiola's one-dimensional super teams, being versatile and flexible during 90 minutes is generally considered a plus in this funny ol' game.

I get last night, if players needed to rest after Covid, but even so, surely there was a way to keep pressing with the players available?

Perhaps, and I realize this can come as a shock to people who gain their footballing intelligence through Pro Evo, the other team also adapted to our press and found a way to change the momentum of the game.

I know, I know, it's a crazy thought, but while he might look like a prune, I assure you that David Moyes is a human football coach who will have instructed his team to try and find a way to come back from 2-1 down.

You know, rather than being content to keep playing the same way all game, even when it's not working.

What really interests me is Contes first window…..I think it will be a massive indication of where he wants to go with us, even if it’s just credible links surfacing before the summer.

Absolutely. Maybe he'll try to get hold of some players to fill the void of others we never replaced, like Eriksen, so we can get back to playing the way we did under Poch and not have to expect Kane to dig us out every match. Back when we were engaging in title challenges and routes to European finals.

You were a fan of Eriksen and Poch, right? You weren't one of those biased, shortsighted voices who slagged them off every week until they left and our form took a nosedive, were you?

Were you?

Frankly mate, and this really isn't personal, but I really don't know where the fuck you get off rating your own footballing analysis so highly. Is quantity the same as quality in your eyes? Because while you post a lot, I rarely see too much from you that actually counts as insight into the game.
 
Because tactics, that's why. Unless you are one of Guardiola's one-dimensional super teams, being versatile and flexible during 90 minutes is generally considered a plus in this funny ol' game.
Tactics that improve the team are usually preferable to ones that let the opposition dominate us though

Imagine that


Perhaps, and I realize this can come as a shock to people who gain their footballing intelligence through Pro Evo, the other team also adapted to our press and found a way to change the momentum of the game.

I know, I know, it's a crazy thought, but while he might look like a prune, I assure you that David Moyes is a human football coach who will have instructed his team to try and find a way to come back from 2-1 down.

You know, rather than being content to keep playing the same way all game, even when it's not working.
Last computer game I played was FIFA 98 thanks

Again, the changes made us worse and were only made due to players recovering from Covid

Might want to consider that eh

You were a fan of Eriksen and Poch, right? You weren't one of those biased, shortsighted voices who slagged them.off every week until they left and our form took a nosedive, were you?

Were you?
I was a big fan of Eriksen until he stopped playing well.
I was a big fan of Poch until he stopped managing us well.

I know, weird right
 
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Tactics that improve the team are usually preferable to ones that let the opposition dominate us though

And tactics which mitigate the opposition's attempts to equalize are usually preferable to ones which let them do what they want.

Funnily enough, for all Spam's time on the ball, I don't remember too many clear cut chances they created in the final third of the match.

Last computer game I played was FIFA 98 thanks

Maybe that's the last time you updated your view of the sport?

Again, the chances made us worse and we’re only made due to players recovering from Covid

Well you say that, but you're only quoting Antonio Conte, who also says that Harry Kane is world class, so...

I was a big fan of Eriksen until he stopped playing well.

When was that, exactly? In 2018/19 he scored 8 goals and assisted 12 in the league, as well as 2 goals and 4 assists in a CL run that took us to the final. I could be wrong but I recall him maybe giving the most assists out of anyone in the league?

We sold him 6 months later, after he chipped in another 2 league goals and 2 assists that season despite being injured a lot.

Are you sure it was him being crap that prompted your criticism, or was it more of an obsession with winning an argument on TFC, because you had simply decided he was shit based upon biased, shortsighted analysis?

50/50?

I was a big fan of Poch until he stopped managing us well.

And you still believe that firing Poch, ushering in the Dinosaur, Mason and Nunoball, and seeing our league position drop, was the right decision? You don't think maybe it was an immature overreaction that cost our club dearly, much like selling Kane would assuredly be?


Yes. Pretty weird actually.
 

Frankly mate, and this really isn't personal, but I really don't know where the fuck you get off rating your own footballing analysis so highly. Is quantity the same as quality in your eyes? Because while you post a lot, I rarely see too much from you that actually counts as insight into the game.
Couldn't agree more.
Now he's having a pop at Conte for replacing tired players.
He ain't got a scooby.
 
And tactics which mitigate the opposition's attempts to equalize are usually preferable to ones which let them do what they want.

Funnily enough, for all Spam's time on the ball, I don't remember too many clear cut chances they created in the final third of the match.

The tactics were forced upon us due to illness thankfully

It was Nuno and Jose ball, I’m glad you enjoyed it

And you still believe that firing Poch, ushering in the Dinosaur, Mason and Nunoball, and seeing our league position drop, was the right decision? You don't think maybe it was an immature overreaction that cost our club dearly, much like selling Kane would assuredly be?
Poch had taken 26 PST from 26 games and hadn’t won away in the league for 11 months, so yes

It’s actually pretty funny when you think about it. Two years later we have Conte and here you are saying Poch shouldn’t have been sacked dear oh dear

Yes. Pretty weird actually.

Is it? Even though you apply the same approach when it suits you?
 
Spammy claiming that Eriksen had "stopped being good."
The same Eriksen who won the title in Italy after he left us under Conte.
Who spammy is now criticising for "wrong tactics."
He ain't got a scooby.

Yeah Eriksen stopped being good for us, not sure what’s that got to with Inter

The tactics were wrong that’s why Conte felt the need to clarify that they were forced upon him.

I’m ok with his explanation as it means it wouldn’t happen normally. I’m glad you like Nuno Ball though
 
The tactics were forced upon us due to illness thankfully

Says who? Antonio Conte? But Antonio Conte also says that Harry Kane is world class. Clearly he needs to go to Sammy School so he can learn to judge players properly or else there is zero chance of him replicating his previous success with us.

I'm glad he gave you an explanation which was to your satisfaction though. I would have lost sleep about it otherwise.

Poch had taken 26 PST from 26 games and hadn’t won away in the league for 11 months, so yes

Why was that?

It’s actually pretty funny when you think about it. Two years later we have Conte and here you are saying Poch shouldn’t have been sacked dear oh dear

It certainly didn't help us to sack him, far as I can tell. Having lucked out by getting Conte two years down the road doesn't change that. Oh dear.

Is it? Even though you apply the same approach when it suits you?

You can accuse me of many things, but flooding the forum with obsessive criticism of one of our best players is not one of them.

Try again?
 
Says who? Antonio Conte? But Antonio Conte also says that Harry Kane is world class. Clearly he needs to go to Sammy School so he can learn to judge players properly or else there is zero chance of him replicating his previous success with us.

I'm glad he gave you an explanation which was to your satisfaction though. I would have lost sleep about it otherwise.
Conte:
“Dier can be one of the best players in the world”
Bigging up average players isn’t really unheard of


Are you suggesting our players didn’t have Covid and Conte lied about why he made the subs?
 
Yeah Eriksen stopped being good for us, not sure what’s that got to with Inter

When? The season he scored 8 goals and provided 12 assists in the league, only 6 months before we sold him?

Was that 6 months the period where he was so shit that he had to go? Where have i heard that logic before...?

Oh dear.

The tactics were wrong that’s why Conte felt the need to clarify that they were forced upon him.

Thank goodness he eased your mind by explaining his decisions, or else it definitely would have been unquestionable fact that his tactics were Wrong.

I’m ok with his explanation as it means it wouldn’t happen normally. I’m glad you like Nuno Ball though

I don't. I want us to go back to Pochball, and thankfully Conte seems to be steering us in that direction again.

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Yeah Eriksen stopped being good for us, not sure what’s that got to with Inter

The tactics were wrong that’s why Conte felt the need to clarify that they were forced upon him.

I’m ok with his explanation as it means it wouldn’t happen normally. I’m glad you like Nuno Ball though
WTF are you talking about?
Eriksen did not stop being good full stop. Jose used him sparingly because he knew he was leaving. If he had chosen to stay he would have played every game and rightly so. One of our best ever players.
And how agreeing that tired players should be subbed makes me a Nuno fan only happens in your fevered mind.
Anyway I'm putting you back in your box. Have a nice day or did God get the weather wrong?
 
For those complaining about the substitutions, what Conte said postgame:

“Many players who played today had Covid and at one point in the game the intensity dropped. For this reason I made substitutions. It was good not to concede a goal, to make the semi-final but I know that we had to manage this situation also on Sunday and then Tuesday. This period will be very tough for us.”
Most of us knew he’d have to juggle the team around based on that.

Just the odd melter who don’t know anything criticised him. They’ve been royally humiliated!
 
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