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Manager Antonio Conte

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who passes it sideways to a fullback..shifting responsibility to them.

...corner to Torquay Utd.

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Wait…The ref is calling for the medic …

Winks had fractured his fingernail while kicking the ball sideway with no one around him….

He is lying down in extreme pain
 
Conte is a phenomenal manager. I can’t believe some people are actually doubting this.
He's actually done worse than Jose and created as much drama

Jose at least got us to a cup final and got the best out of Kane and Son

Broadly speaking, I'm not sure what Conte has done well during his first 4-5 months here. There seems to be absolutely no plan, style of football or understanding of how to best use any of his players.
 
He's actually done worse than Jose and created as much drama

Jose at least got us to a cup final and got the best out of Kane and Son

Broadly speaking, I'm not sure what Conte has done well during his first 4-5 months here. There seems to be absolutely no plan, style of football or understanding of how to best use any of his players.
Well if we all didn’t know about Conte’s successful past there would be a lot more people on here questioning what he is doing for us because the team results after a good first 11 games (7w, 3d, 1l) have become 5w, 7l in the last 12 and appear to be heading South
 
Well if we all didn’t know about Conte’s successful past there would be a lot more people on here questioning what he is doing for us because the team results after a good first 11 games (7w, 3d, 1l) have become 5w, 7l in the last 12 and appear to be heading South
the bad results coincided with the injuries of dier and skipp.
usually a normal squad can overcome 2 injuries.
but we are short in players, winks-PEH begun to play, and surprising, without dier defence got worse

said so, conte made several mistakes in the last matches, especially in the post-matches' conferences
 
Conte is a phenomenal manager. I can’t believe some people are actually doubting this.
Well he hasn’t shown it here yet.

He has a free pass for this season as he’s inherited such a rabble of a playing squad. Next season if he gets in a few new players over the summer, made of the right stuff, will tell the tale.
 
Conte is a phenomenal manager. I can’t believe some people are actually doubting this.

If Levy changes the coach again to try and get this squad playing he should be shot at dawn.
Keep this coach and bring in players who respond to world class coaches.
The squad is done and needs a complete overhaul. Dier, Davies. Sanchez, Winks, Moura, they've all been here way too long. And some of the newer players aint all that,
 
If Levy changes the coach again to try and get this squad playing he should be shot at dawn.
Keep this coach and bring in players who respond to world class coaches.
The squad is done and needs a complete overhaul. Dier, Davies. Sanchez, Winks, Moura, they've all been here way too long. And some of the newer players aint all that,
Can't someone just shoot him and not give him the opportunity to change coach again? And frankly, why wait until dawn??
 
He's actually done worse than Jose and created as much drama

Jose at least got us to a cup final and got the best out of Kane and Son

Broadly speaking, I'm not sure what Conte has done well during his first 4-5 months here. There seems to be absolutely no plan, style of football or understanding of how to best use any of his players.

Worse than Jose's half season at the club? Arguably true.

But after having a full pre season + I think about 80 or 90m in net spend Jose had us 7th in the table and going out in Europe to a Croatian side 3-0. The football was absolutely worse than it is now (we're inconsistent, sometimes boring but also scored 7 in our last 3 league games) and the atmosphere around the club much more drab. We were dropping like a stone towards mid-table when he was sacked, whereas under Conte I think we're averaging either 4th or 5th in the table form wise.

And there's obviously a plan and a style. You can say you don't like it, but you can't say we haven't got a pretty clear setup and patterns of play. And it's simply not true that he doesn't know how to use ANY of his players, we've clearly seen some individuals improve under him. Again, lots of valid criticisms of Conte so far (his bi-polar outbursts, his lack of inventiveness when it comes to the WB situation, the midfield situation..) but us not having a plan isn't one of them. We have one, it just isn't working that well right now.
 
I think it's wrong to compare Conte with Mourinho as a coach.
BUT
Our plight shows, once and for all, not all of the problems that were here under Mourinho were his fault or doing.
I said at the time I didn't believe he wanted to cling on for dear life against the likes of Fulham, that was on the players. Seems it's still happening, with similar frequency.
 
He's actually done worse than Jose and created as much drama

Jose at least got us to a cup final and got the best out of Kane and Son

Broadly speaking, I'm not sure what Conte has done well during his first 4-5 months here. There seems to be absolutely no plan, style of football or understanding of how to best use any of his players.
He's got them fitter. They had become embrassingly unfit under Mourinho and Nuno. We're generally creating more chances although still have games like Burnley and Boro. We've at least seen a few entertaining games like Liverpool, Leicester, Man City which had become rarer than rocking horse shite in the last 6 months under Mourinho and then Nuno. But i would agree there is massive room for improvement.
 
He's got them fitter. They had become embrassingly unfit under Mourinho and Nuno. We're generally creating more chances although still have games like Burnley and Boro. We've at least seen a few entertaining games like Liverpool, Leicester, Man City which had become rarer than rocking horse shite in the last 6 months under Mourinho and then Nuno. But i would agree there is massive room for improvement.

We're making openings, but wasting the potential chances. Son is rolling balls at the keeper, Kulu is rolling shots the wrong side of the post, Winks is....giving the ball away.
Under Nuno we weren't even getting those.
 
Important to note that Guardiola in his first season at City struggled to get top 4, had games where they were battered by the likes of Everton (we beat them VERY comfortably too) and generally just weren't particularly good. That was with a full pre season, lots of spending and him being considered the best manager in football. You had English pundits revelling in his failure as it proved the PL was a different beast. Klopp too struggled after coming in mid season, lots of very poor results. Even in his first full season they scraped 4th in the table.

Top managers aren't magicians, they don't arrive, wave a magic wand and within a month you have champagne football. There's a lot of painful transition and mistakes along the way, thus far Conte has had zero pre season and 2 Jan signings (one of which has been injured) to work with. I understand not being impressed currently, but people have to ask themselves if they really want the club to pay the fee of sacking another manager and start a new project with new aims because we've had a poor couple of months. This club needs stability and consistency.

Agree with that but I would have preferred a longer initial contract

18 months tells me he’s taking a punt and Levy is covering his bald arse
 
We're making openings, but wasting the potential chances. Son is rolling balls at the keeper, Kulu is rolling shots the wrong side of the post, Winks is....giving the ball away.
Under Nuno we weren't even getting those.
Doherty skying the ball over the bar when he just had to get on target or if he wasn’t confident to do that square it to Sonny

He tries but just not a footballer
 
Important to note that Guardiola in his first season at City struggled to get top 4, had games where they were battered by the likes of Everton (we beat them VERY comfortably too) and generally just weren't particularly good. That was with a full pre season, lots of spending and him being considered the best manager in football. You had English pundits revelling in his failure as it proved the PL was a different beast. Klopp too struggled after coming in mid season, lots of very poor results. Even in his first full season they scraped 4th in the table.

Top managers aren't magicians, they don't arrive, wave a magic wand and within a month you have champagne football. There's a lot of painful transition and mistakes along the way, thus far Conte has had zero pre season and 2 Jan signings (one of which has been injured) to work with. I understand not being impressed currently, but people have to ask themselves if they really want the club to pay the fee of sacking another manager and start a new project with new aims because we've had a poor couple of months. This club needs stability and consistency.
Best post of the thread sir.

If we're serious about turning the club around we need to be looking at giving him 2 full seasons minimum. If we're still no better then fair enough, questions should be asked.

Sadly, I don't think he will stay that long.
 
Best post of the thread sir.

If we're serious about turning the club around we need to be looking at giving him 2 full seasons minimum. If we're still no better then fair enough, questions should be asked.

He's only contracted for 18 months (*).

(*With a mutual extension clause for another year.)

Sadly, I don't think he will stay that long.

If he's backed in the summer and yet still storms off before the beginning of the following season, can questions be asked then too?

As your post alludes to, I don't think a title challenge is a realistic expectation in the first full year; but it does concern me that he has that degree of an all or nothing mentality regardless (I mean that's blatantly what's been underpinning his recent outbursts as it is).
 
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