Every team that developed a new stadium, apart from us and scum, in the last 30 years got pretty much immediately relegated.
It's nearly impossible to do it and not have results drop off.
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Every team that developed a new stadium, apart from us and scum, in the last 30 years got pretty much immediately relegated.
It's nearly impossible to do it and not have results drop off.
They are stuck with him too. Nobody is coming in to take him.
They have a few players like that as well.
Yup, that's the curse of being at the top of the transfer food chain.
Credit their infinite money all you want, but the scouting heater they were on for five plus years dating back to Manuel Pellegrini was unlike anything football has ever seen.
The Grealish deal was the hard end date of that run. They've been making TERRIBLE decisions starting from there.
Gvardiol was the last successful transfer?
Akanji before that was a decent find
Yeah, they've continued to have their moments. I like the look of Savinho.
It's the mistakes though. Grealish. Selling Palmer outright. Having no cover for Haaland. Their GK's are useless. Above all, in all these years they've never cultivated anyone who can replace an ounce of what KDB gives them.
They just can't play their football with the fluidity they did anymore. Doku isn't Sterling, Kovacic isn't Gundogan (and neither is Gundogan anymore), Foden's a top player but different than KDB, Haaland has extraordinary gifts that Aguero didn't, but he can't connect their play like Aguero did.
It's like they forgot who their manager is. They had 11 Iniesta's, now they have like 4.
And as absurd as it was for a plastic unlimited budget superclub, they had an "us against the world" siege mentality that you can see is gone in their new guys.
As long as they still turn up for their Woolwich game in Feb...
The Scum were forced to sell most of their stars during the process.
We didn't. We didn't drop off...... Our so-called austerity years coincided with some of our best ever EPL football (3rd, 2nd, 3rd 4th).
We fell off cos the guys we brought in to rebuild the squad afterwards, to a man, failed here.
They had duds (and wage wastage); they just didn't blink and carried on cheating.
Since 13/14 (Pellegrini's first season) [euros]:
Pre-PSG/Neymar&Mbappe hyper inflation:
Jovetic 26m
Navas 20m
Demicechelis 4.5m
Boney 32.3m
Mangala 45m
Otamendi 45m
Delph 11.5m
Since 16/17 (Pep's first season) [euros]:
Bravo 18m
Nolito 18m
Post-PSG/Neymar&Mbappe hyper inflation:
Mendy 57.5m
Danilo 30m
Torres 33.5m
Grealish 100m (1 /12 good seasons... Didn't even need him.)
Phillips 49m
Doku 60m (Meh.... They'll punt him off at a big loss soon enough.)
Savinho 25m (Meh... Below their lofty standards so far)
+ Cancello 65m (brief spell of success before hitting the naughty step)
+ Porro 12m (naughty step and gone)
+ Sane 52m (naughty step and gone)
+ Alvarez 21.4m (1 season and gone... Albeit big profit.)
+ many other lower profile dregs.
You need to narrow the focus. They were laughably bad in the early years with the Sheikh before they started bringing professional transfer people in, and have been bad since Grealish.
Against De Bruyne, Sterling, Gundogan, Zinchenko, Sane, Stones, Gabriel Jesus, Bernardo Silva, Ederson, Walker, Laporte, Mahrez, Rodri, Cancelo, Ake, Ruben Dias
Lots of clubs have spent big money and lots of clubs have made a lot of thoroughly scouted deals. There's never been anything close to a hit rate like that ever, that's completely insane.
And to my above point, every single one of those players (bar Walker maybe) is PERFECT for the way Pep wants to play football, in a way even players with obvious great abilities like Haaland or Grealish or Doku just aren't.
Money of course and Pep of course, but City's dominance of the Premier League was an artifact of a single unprecedented hot streak (luck as much as any genius) of transfer activity that had a start date and has long since seen its end date.
Over a six year period, Summer 2015 to Summer 2021, that's your list of "busts", featuring a backup GK, a token homegrown slot-filler, three guys they made most if not all of their money back on (Nolito, Danilo, Torres), and the one true massive disaster, Mendy.
Against De Bruyne, Sterling, Gundogan, Zinchenko, Sane, Stones, Gabriel Jesus, Bernardo Silva, Ederson, Walker, Laporte, Mahrez, Rodri, Cancelo, Ake, Ruben Dias
Lots of clubs have spent big money and lots of clubs have made a lot of thoroughly scouted deals. There's never been anything close to a hit rate like that ever, that's completely insane.
And to my above point, every single one of those players (bar Walker maybe) is PERFECT for the way Pep wants to play football, in a way even players with obvious great abilities like Haaland or Grealish or Doku just aren't.
Money of course and Pep of course, but City's dominance of the Premier League was an artifact of a single unprecedented hot streak (luck as much as any genius) of transfer activity that had a start date and has long since seen its end date.
This isn't mentioned half enough.
We got le Celso and ndombele wrong and it fucking hurt us. They did this X10 and you hear the bollocks of how good their recruitment is.
I have no love for them but all the time they were hoovering up titles it stopped the red scum and now it looks like the blue scum are on a charge
We just can't win
We just can't win
If they don’t splurge in January then I think yes.
You're pretending the whole Neymar/Mbappe shitfest didn't happen.... Those fees are much more meaningful pre that timestamp.
Boney & Mangala for example were awful trfs when 30m & 40m was still a hefty fee.
Bravo (pre-Neymar!) wasn't brought in as a back-up.... He was meant to replace Hart; but flopped.... Which led to them bringing Ederson in later.
Phillips for 49 mill is all good in your book?
100m Grealish is a smooth no regret deal?
Even Cancelo went to tits at a net loss of 45m (yet for some strange reason you - below - deem that one for the 'win' column.)
Sane (although I didn't list; another from your 'win' column) they had to sell for 30m-odd less than his perceived market value cos Pep put him on the naughty step.
These things matter a great deal when you haven't got de-reg (cheat) money to burn.
I didn't say they hadn't scored some very good players........ Especially in the Pep era; but YOU included Pelegrini's time in the mix to begin which in turn makes for much starker reading as a whole. When they're simultaneously paying the biggest wages around and offering the 'wing' of the so-called GOAT manager; their hit rate under Pep is mildly impressive, nothing more.
The fact is their (and Chelsea's) cheating allowed them to shrugg off a lot of deals that would majorly hampered most clubs.
.......Even Man U are feeling the pinch of their blunders these days.
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ENIC and Levy's fault.
That City are shit? Well done levy.
It’s his bit. He does it thinking a point has been made whenever another club are out of form. Usually forgetting that club has usually won loads of stuff recently and the form isn’t just a constant state of being.