Player Conor Gallagher

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Yes I agree just saying that Neves isn't realistic, we could have had a profile fit and we would have fared better with a player who isn't such a big name...I said before someone like Tyrese Hall could walk into this team because he's a profile we are missing out on.

Our recruitment is probably the worst in the league over the past few years.

Annoys me how we signed Gallagher who is going to be taking minutes off Bergvall, Sarr and Gray now, Lange is an idiot.

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I don't care about Gallagher taking m minutes from Bergval, Sarr and Gray because he's better - or more use - than all of those right now, and better/more use than Sarr and Gray ever will be.

What annoys me is that we signed Gallagher instead of signing a quality player who can do something none of those others can, ie be press resident and pass the ball.

 

[Shadydan]

I don't care about Gallagher taking m minutes from Bergval, Sarr and Gray because he's better - or more use - than all of those right now, and better/more use than Sarr and Gray ever will be.

What annoys me is that we signed Gallagher instead of signing a quality player who can do something none of those others can, ie be press resident and pass the ball.

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I care more for our squad building and our future, Gallagher is better now but we should moving into a new era with Bergvall and Gray and Sarr and looking to cement these players into the squad going forward and Gallagher is better at what box crashing and running and pressing, all these players are better technicians than him and have higher potential IMO

 

[carpediem991]

I care more for our squad building and our future, Gallagher is better now but we should moving into a new era with Bergvall and Gray and Sarr and looking to cement these players into the squad going forward and Gallagher is better at what box crashing and running and pressing, all these players are better technicians than him and have higher potential IMO

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Our squad is as useless as it is because our main transfer business was to buy just potential. If you do not have "ready now" players and create an successful and ambitious environment, the "potential players" just won't develop as good as they need to. Or they want to leave as they look for international football to develop.

 

[Shadydan]

Our squad is as useless as it is because our main transfer business was to buy just potential. If you do not have "ready now" players and create an successful and ambitious environment, the "potential players" just won't develop as good as they need to. Or they want to leave as they look for international football to develop.

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And yet we're in a thread where we've just bought a ready now player who has contributed the square root of 0

Buying young is part of the issue but player profiling and having an actual plan for our players is a far bigger one.

 

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I care more for our squad building and our future, Gallagher is better now but we should moving into a new era with Bergvall and Gray and Sarr and looking to cement these players into the squad going forward and Gallagher is better at what box crashing and running and pressing, all these players are better technicians than him and have higher potential IMO

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You think Pape Sarr is good enough? Gray? Even Bergval's shown nothing to suggest a future elite player at this level. He can't pass the ball, he's hopeless without the ball, can't play in a CM2. Sarr should be sold asap, Gray and Bergval should be on loan in a lesser league playing every week and their development being assessed.

 

[Shadydan]

You think Pape Sarr is good enough? Gray? Even Bergval's shown nothing to suggest a future elite player at this level. He can't pass the ball, he's hopeless without the ball, can't play in a CM2. Sarr should be sold asap, Gray and Bergval should be on loan in a lesser league playing every week and their development being assessed.

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When you say good enough, what do you mean?

They've definitely got talent but future elite players is an extreme, point is that I think they have talent to scale higher than Gallagher...I just don't think we've done a very good job of harnessing them properly.

They're all 8's, all ball carriers yet we've played them in all different positions in midfield and when they have played there they haven't played there consistently.

IMO you have a good 6 with one of these guys with a 10 in a solid system then they will improve, we've seen glimpses of Sarr improving but he was dropped by Frank earlier in the season and under Ange in that first season he was more of a hit than miss.

Judging Bergvall and Gray over the past 2 years is unfair as well, Gray's been shoved in all sorts of positions and Bergvall was a standout last season (although not much competition) this season we've had to deal with Frank-ball and constantly getting mis-profiled and then injuries now.

 

[Kosher Kid]

When you say good enough, what do you mean?

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It used to be simple.

Football is a simple game.

Players should excel in either scoring, creating or stopping goals.

Some really gifted players tick two of those boxes.

The very best tick all three boxes.

Now we listen to data analysts instead of using judgement on these matters.

Spurs currently have lots of players who run around without achieving very much in terms of stopping, creating or scoring goals.

The best players cost significant transfer fees and wages.

 

[Brian Fantana]

You think Pape Sarr is good enough? Gray? Even Bergval's shown nothing to suggest a future elite player at this level. He can't pass the ball, he's hopeless without the ball, can't play in a CM2. Sarr should be sold asap, Gray and Bergval should be on loan in a lesser league playing every week and their development being assessed.

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Yep agree on Sarr, he just hasnt been developed properly and I am not sure has enough aggression on and off the ball to get better now.

Gallagher is hard to judge because he's walked into a dumpster fire of a club and team.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

It used to be simple.

Football is a simple game.

Players should excel in either scoring, creating or stopping goals.

Some really gifted players tick two of those boxes.

The very best tick all three boxes.

Now we listen to data analysts instead of using judgement on these matters.

Spurs currently have lots of players who run around without achieving very much in terms of stopping, creating or scoring goals.

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Spot on. Ive been saying for years we stopped buying footballers and started an obsession with lungs on legs. Gallagher was NOT the profile of player we needed. He's more of the same.

 

[Kosher Kid]

Spot on. Ive been saying for years we stopped buying footballers and started an obsession with lungs on legs. Gallagher was NOT the profile of player we needed. He's more of the same.

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I think Gallagher is more to do with the personality of the team.

Romero is the current dressing room leader and he has led us nowhere.

We do have lots of midfield runners though.

I had hope for Bentancur and Sarr.

Both have dropped off under Ange and Frank.

Tbh I fucking hate this team.

It's a perfect storm of average recruitment, amateur level coaching and no leadership.

 

[TeamSpirit™]

Spot on. Ive been saying for years we stopped buying footballers and started an obsession with lungs on legs. Gallagher was NOT the profile of player we needed. He's more of the same.

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N’Dombele flopping gave our scouting department CTE.

 

[Papafeels]

This was the man brought in to save our season

https://www.reddit.com/r/atletico/s/y6mXxZiLPZ

 

[Doc]

I care more for our squad building and our future, Gallagher is better now but we should moving into a new era with Bergvall and Gray and Sarr and looking to cement these players into the squad going forward and Gallagher is better at what box crashing and running and pressing, all these players are better technicians than him and have higher potential IMO

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Don't really think Sarr has shown much to think we should be planning around him going forward. Gray has a shown good attitude and physicality for his age but he'll obviously need to take a big leap. Think young players are generally the way to go for us, but hopefully young players with more technical ability.

 

[daveyboy88]

It used to be simple.

Football is a simple game.

Players should excel in either scoring, creating or stopping goals.

Some really gifted players tick two of those boxes.

The very best tick all three boxes.

Now we listen to data analysts instead of using judgement on these matters.

Spurs currently have lots of players who run around without achieving very much in terms of stopping, creating or scoring goals.

The best players cost significant transfer fees and wages.

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the standard of footballers has gone massively downhill though, theres a serious lack of 10s and now even 9s. theres a lack of actual footballers in midfield, the games somehow tried to force athletes in over actual footballers, its a shit watch a lot of it now.

hopefully it comes back around to having actual talent play the game again and not just a bunch of braindead athletes masquerading as footballers.

 

[bus-conductor]

When you say good enough, what do you mean?

They've definitely got talent but future elite players is an extreme, point is that I think they have talent to scale higher than Gallagher...I just don't think we've done a very good job of harnessing them properly.

They're all 8's, all ball carriers yet we've played them in all different positions in midfield and when they have played there they haven't played there consistently.

IMO you have a good 6 with one of these guys with a 10 in a solid system then they will improve, we've seen glimpses of Sarr improving but he was dropped by Frank earlier in the season and under Ange in that first season he was more of a hit than miss.

Judging Bergvall and Gray over the past 2 years is unfair as well, Gray's been shoved in all sorts of positions and Bergvall was a standout last season (although not much competition) this season we've had to deal with Frank-ball and constantly getting mis-profiled and then injuries now.

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So you’ve got three midfielders there, you talk about a 6, 8 and 10 but Sarr and Gray have shown nothing exceptional in any of those positions. Bergval looks like he might make an 8, but only in a CM3, and he’s got to learn his to pass the ball and be tactically disciplined without it.

Gray just looks like a kid who was physically dominant in his age group and so could impose himself, but at men’s level, unable to impose that physical advantage, he just looks like a really ordinary footballer with no above average abilities. He’s not even a busy cunt.

Sarr can do bits and bobs of stuff but excels at absolutely nothing.

And this is the story of this squad, a bunch of fucking meh.

 

[VonnegutBusy]

I care more for our squad building and our future, Gallagher is better now but we should moving into a new era with Bergvall and Gray and Sarr and looking to cement these players into the squad going forward and Gallagher is better at what box crashing and running and pressing, all these players are better technicians than him and have higher potential IMO

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We dont have the luxury of developing Sarr, Bergvall and Gray. We are not Brighton.

Trying to do that is why we finished 17th last season and will do again this year.

Sarr needs to go.
Gray is a utility man so is useful.
Bergvall is the only one with star quality.

 

[Shadydan]

So you’ve got three midfielders there, you talk about a 6, 8 and 10 but Sarr and Gray have shown nothing exceptional in any of those positions. Bergval looks like he might make an 8, but only in a CM3, and he’s got to learn his to pass the ball and be tactically disciplined without it.

Gray just looks like a kid who was physically dominant in his age group and so could impose himself, but at men’s level, unable to impose that physical advantage, he just looks like a really ordinary footballer with no above average abilities. He’s not even a busy cunt.

Sarr can do bits and bobs of stuff but excels at absolutely nothing.

And this is the story of this squad, a bunch of fucking meh.

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Please read it again, I didn't say they should play as a 6 or 10 I said they are all 8s and should be profiled in that position and should have been playing there when we bought them.

Anyway they are all flawed but still all young, but my point is that we'd be better off with them as opposed to promoting Gallagher, we were better off just getting a passing 6 and committing to a formation with 3 in midfield and having them battle it out for that 8 spot.

It's all moot regardless, as I said it's time for Sarr to leave as we can't afford to carry this many players with similar abilities and profiles now and especially as we have Gallagher who is a wasted signing, just get that passing 6 and go from there whilst moving on Bentancur, Bissouma and Sarr.

 

[Shadydan]

We dont have the luxury of developing Sarr, Bergvall and Gray. We are not Brighton.

Trying to do that is why we finished 17th last season and will do again this year.

Sarr needs to go.
Gray is a utility man so is useful.
Bergvall is the only one with star quality.

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Wasn't saying Sarr should stay, I was making a point on who I'd prefer over Gallagher, Sarr needs to leave now purely because of numbers and lack of mins.

 

[bus-conductor]

Please read it again, I didn't say they should play as a 6 or 10 I said they are all 8s and should be profiled in that position and should have been playing there when we bought them.

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Sorry, I meant to add the point that none of them are 6 or 10’s, that leaves one potential place as an 8, and three players you want to keep and play.

And again, Sarr and Gray are really meh 8’s at that. Neither have got close to nailing a place n our midfield, despite us having plodders like Bentancur, Palhinha and a wayward Bissouma.

Anyway they are all flawed but still all young, but my point is that we'd be better off with them as opposed to promoting Gallagher, we were better off just getting a passing 6 and committing to a formation with 3 in midfield and having them battle it out for that 8 spot.

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I agree about a cm3 and getting a decent 6, I just don’t think Sarr or Gray are good enough 8’s. Neither are press resistant, neither can pass or progress the ball well enough, neither have vision.

 

[Shadydan]

Sorry, I meant to add the point that none of them are 6 or 10’s, that leaves one potential place as an 8, and three players you want to keep and play.

And again, Sarr and Gray are really meh 8’s at that. Neither have got close to nailing a place n our midfield, despite us having plodders like Bentancur, Palhinha and a wayward Bissouma.




I agree about a cm3 and getting a decent 6, I just don’t think Sarr or Gray are good enough 8’s. Neither are press resistant, neither can pass or progress the ball well enough, neither have vision.

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What's wrong with Sarr as an 8, was pretty much an ever present playing as an 8 in Ange's first season where we finished 5th?