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Lewis' daughter, who is presumably in a major position of power now at Spurs, seems like a fun lady (and I'm not being sarcastic).

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So who is this Vivienne Lewis pictured with Levy at the Burnley game , did she also attend the Bournemouth game that caused her to age about 30 years in your photo, think your photo may be Jane Lewis Joe's wife.

 
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TBF Levy has set the bar very low in the “seems like fun department”

She certainly does not seem the shy and retiring wallflower type though judging by the photo
I wouldn't get carried away with the "Just call me Viv!" routine. People usually are as nice as can be while they're casing for the big inheritance swoop.

I honestly hope that they genuinely do want to be around for the long haul and want to make us "great again" and I'll be the first to commend them if they do make changes to the management to make us more successful but I've seen enough of people talking about all the great things they're going to do for others while Mum and Dad are still around to then completely disappear with the money as soon as Mum and Dad have kicked the bucket.

They can keep their fairy tale. I'll judge them by what they actually do in reality.
 
That's just simply not going to happen. The threshold for buying a club has went up, and due diligence is being a primary focus, to stop this kind of behavior.

You've just been conditioned into thinking we're doing great. We've been underperforming for a long time, playing everything extremely conservatively.

Someone isn't dropping £4bn on something to let it rot.
Levy & Enic did a great job in brainwashing many that we should be grateful for being average & winning very little. & we should pay a high price for this too. We would be grateful for winning a lot less than our rivals. They really did a number on the levy lovers!
You would think levy saved us from going extinct & died in a tragic accident.
 
No, you miss my point! Which was judgement of people. I don't judge people by their wealth, but by their actions and contributions to society.
Of course there are those that have and continually pursue to have more and more as result of the less fortunate, but my point is, this is the reality of life!
Do I like and a prove of this? Fuck no! But as I said this is the sad reality of life brother!
Levy with his 100s of millions whilst a kid starves to death every 10 seconds. My thoughts on this will never be ‘he deserves all that wealth whilst others starve due to a lack of it’. & that levy ‘is one of the good humans for hoarding wealth he doesn’t need whilst other suffer in extreme poverty’.
No right or wrong. Just different views on people like him.
I get it’s capitalism & a sad reality of this world. But doesn’t mean we should ignore these selfish evil actions & start saying they deserve all this wealth & they are good humans. Unless you do think this of course. In Which case I think your morals are messed up!
I guess I took exception to you thinking he deserves to hoard all that wealth . Anyway, agree to disagree!
 
Be careful what you wish for!

Whatever Levy’s faults he’s a Spurs fan so would have had the club’s best interests at heart. Can the same be said for the Lewis family?

We may never find out why Levy was really removed (I don’t buy the Lewis family statement). Maybe he was questioning a potential investor’s motives that they were looking to bring in and that’s the reason he’s been ejected?

I guess we’ll find out in due course.
I don’t view him as a spurs fan at all. Adding to his wealth was his main love & goal. I don’t think levy deeply cared or priories us winning stuff & competing at the top.
In fact he gave himself a pay rise after a shambles of a season. Is that the behaviour of a fan of the club? H tried to move us to east London & join the super league. He went after life long OAP fans. I guess we have different views on what a fan is.
& he was incompetent & a liability with matters on the pitch. He had gone stale.
He is no loss & it’s not a big gamble to roll the dice on someone else.
We should never have a chairman who leads us to finishing 17th. In fact it takes some doing to get a club of our size & support & resources to finish so low! It’s a disgrace how badly he has run us.
 
I don’t view him as a spurs fan at all. Adding to his wealth was his main love & goal. I don’t think levy deeply cared or priories us winning stuff & competing at the top.
In fact he gave himself a pay rise after a shambles of a season. Is that the behaviour of a fan of the club? H tried to move us to east London & join the super league. He went after life long OAP fans. I guess we have different views on what a fan is.
& he was incompetent & a liability with matters on the pitch. He had gone stale.
He is no loss & it’s not a big gamble to roll the dice on someone else.
We should never have a chairman who leads us to finishing 17th. In fact it takes some doing to get a club of our size & support & resources to finish so low! It’s a disgrace how badly he has run us.
Well we’ll see won’t we!

He might have been well remunerated, but neither him or ENIC have taken substantial dividends out of the club like the Glazers when they quite easily could have.

Their investment has grown but so has the club.

‘It’s a disgrace how badly he has run us’ 😂 Do me a favour! 😂 What a ridiculous statement! A lot of people conveniently ignore the dreadful state the club was in, both financially and on the pitch, when he took over the reigns.
 
Levy with his 100s of millions whilst a kid starves to death every 10 seconds. My thoughts on this will never be ‘he deserves all that wealth whilst others starve due to a lack of it’. & that levy ‘is one of the good humans for hoarding wealth he doesn’t need whilst other suffer in extreme poverty’.
No right or wrong. Just different views on people like him.
I get it’s capitalism & a sad reality of this world. But doesn’t mean we should ignore these selfish evil actions & start saying they deserve all this wealth & they are good humans. Unless you do think this of course. In Which case I think your morals are messed up!
I guess I took exception to you thinking he deserves to hoard all that wealth . Anyway, agree to disagree!
I guess he can do whatever he like with his fortune, just like so many other wealthy individuals who earn obscene amounts of money whilst others starve in the world.
Like you I don't think its right, but as we keep saying its the sad reality of life!
 
Nothing like a bad loser eh.

You could be a man and say congratulations, admit that you've been so so wrong, now that Levy has had his comeuppance.
To be fair he spent most of his life this past year supporting & defending ang & levy. Telling us all how great they are & what a wonderful partnership they are & will be for many years. Instead levy sacks ang which would have been a huge confusing blow. Now ENIC get rid of levy. It will be a trying time for him. His 2 big loves … out of here! & all he fought for & believed in has gone up in dust.
Then we have to the big blow to the ego of being so wrong for so long! & it’s all over, proof you had got it so wrong is a fact.
You either accept it & be humble or keep lying to yourself & not accepting the truth.
 
I wouldn't get carried away with the "Just call me Viv!" routine. People usually are as nice as can be while they're casing for the big inheritance swoop.

I honestly hope that they genuinely do want to be around for the long haul and want to make us "great again" and I'll be the first to commend them if they do make changes to the management to make us more successful but I've seen enough of people talking about all the great things they're going to do for others while Mum and Dad are still around to then completely disappear with the money as soon as Mum and Dad have kicked the bucket.

They can keep their fairy tale. I'll judge them by what they actually do in reality.
I wasn’t saying I bought in to her being a decent owner , just she looks less dull than Mogadon Dan
 
Yes you are correct, that had pretty much fallen out my mind! 🤦🏻
Perhaps what I and others cling to is that there are levels.
Maybe our owners are not quite as bad as the Russian Gangster or countries that have no human rights?
As for billionaires, I don't believe it's possible to accumulate that much wealth by being a nice, good person. Maybe to their family, but everyone else is just ripe for exploitation. You can't build a mountain of money like that without fucking over, exploiting or just plain killing people.
Your point about Lewis is fair, but he hasn't pumped us full of money to cheat like an Ambramovich. There is an element of being able to distance or disassociate from him. I don't think he is closely linked the same either, is he always attending matches? 🤔
Yep . Our owners are morally bankrupt but there are even worse owners out there.
I don’t think Lewis even attends the UK let alone our stadium!
& obviously I agree on billionaires not being nice humans. It would have been interesting if the super league went ahead. I wonder what percentage of Fans would have stopped supporting their team.
 
Yep . Our owners are morally bankrupt but there are even worse owners out there.
I don’t think Lewis even attends the UK let alone our stadium!
& obviously I agree on billionaires not being nice humans. It would have been interesting if the super league went ahead. I wonder what percentage of Fans would have stopped supporting their team.
Why are you so fixated on Joe? He is no longer in control. It has been stated that his children Viv & Charlie are behind the changes. Viv was at the Burnley match. If Joe was still in control then so might Levy.
 
Yep . Our owners are morally bankrupt but there are even worse owners out there.
I don’t think Lewis even attends the UK let alone our stadium!
& obviously I agree on billionaires not being nice humans. It would have been interesting if the super league went ahead. I wonder what percentage of Fans would have stopped supporting their team.
I think you should read up on what the club has done for the local community directly and through the Foundation.
 
Football at this level has become pretty morally vacuous anyway. With the whole raison d’etre for the clubs and media being to make profit, and the pros that turn up being more and more mercenary (see Isak for the latest iteration of this) it’s becoming a little soulless.

Personally, as Levy and Lewis had / have been in place for so long I can almost turn a blind eye to Lewis’ ‘old-school’ ‘villainy’ - state links or American owners are just horrific to contemplate but most likely.

However, we have to take the statement released at face value and assume it’s a succession plan, rather then a sell off.

I’m worried about the future - aside from Liverpool, which of the other ‘new’ owners would I take? None.

Maybe it’s my age, but I remember clubs being owned by people who wanted success for the sake of the club, not the shareholders. Levy - rightly or wrongly - wanted to build the club but forgot to have the success on the field at the heart of things. If we are sold, or if a new leadership team comes in, will they be actually in favour of the club’s success or just something more in their portfolio, to be ejected the second it’s less profitable?

TL/DR : Bit sick of modern football. Bring back jumpers for goalposts.
It was even better when we didn’t really know much about the owners or discuss them. Turnover & net spend ? no one really cared. Simpler times .
 
Lol wrong about what.

Ive said, repeatedly, that its time for him to go.

Honestly some of you are celebrating more on here than you did after we won the Europa. The obsessive posts about Levy in every thread relating to every topic.... how some posters would come alive with every loss and hammer the keyboard, its weird to me.

I have been branded as something because other dont know how to deal with my opinions not aligning with theirs.

Thats a them and clearly a you problem.

Congratulations mate. Huge day for you. One to tell the kids about.... the bad man you go on the Internet and call bald over and over again is not longer gonna make you sad and mad.
Bump one comment of yours that says that. Because since I've been here you've said absolutely nothing like that.
 
Or as someone else put, he's been sacked for spending to much money! He saw us lift that EL trophy and thought fuck it, lets have a go, lets loosen the purse strings a bit and try and compete, Little old Joe saw his hotel money vanish over night and decided that Levy had to go! :levyeyes:
That's not what happened.

Hence the injection of funds.

He got sacked because of the way he was. Nothing more, nothing less. We might actually be competitive now that we won't miss out on key players over a million or two.
 
Oh yes, basically trolling people who want Levy out. just like you state that supporters calling for are simply participating in pantomime.

Trying to belittle public protests and chants in the stadium. that are against Levy.

If you don't think that's supporting him, then I don't know what else to say to you.
Nearly all levy & or enic fans deny supporting them & then claim to be neutral. It’s odd & laughable. If only we could all be as well balanced as those neutral heroes!
 
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