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Ex-Spurs Player Davinson Sanchez

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Our big money signings have a habit in not always working out too successfully. If we're contemplating spending silly money on a CB that is not PL-proven, surely we would be better off spending the money on making Toby happy (who I wouldn't swap for anyone), if the only reason he's unhappy is cash!

3 at the back can be my only conclusion to it. Let's hope Toby stays he's so important
 
I don't see how we can offer him game time too.
Unless he's taking Trippiers place or we are playing 3 at the back a lot.
Didn't he play in every game for Ajax in the league and EL last Season?
He won't get that here but he would at Chelsea.
They play 3 at the back consistently.

I think we are being Martialed.

If it happens it happens and great. I ain't getting my hopes up at all though.
 
I don't see how we can offer him game time too.
Unless he's taking Trippiers place or we are playing 3 at the back a lot.
Didn't he play in every game for Ajax in the league and EL last Season?
He won't get that here but he would at Chelsea.
They play 3 at the back consistently.

I think we are being Martialed.

If it happens it happens and great. I ain't getting my hopes up at all though.
We look a lot better with 3 at the back. With the right personnel available (trusted CBs and very attacking WBs) it seems the much better option.
 
It frees Dier into midfirld obviously as an option to or alongside Wanyama.

It also allows us to cash in on Wimmer, meaning the total outlay is relatively limited.

And worst case scanario is tbat we are planning for life after Alderweireld because there is no way Levy will countenance a player of value leaving for free.
 
We look a lot better with 3 at the back. With the right personnel available (trusted CBs and very attacking WBs) it seems the much better option.

Not many teams will score against us, let alone put two in with 3 at the back consisting of Jan, Toby and Davinson. that with our attacking options maybe getting one or two more added to it means we'll break most teams down over an hour and a half of football. Hopefully some really great times ahead
 
Not many teams will score against us, let alone put two in with 3 at the back consisting of Jan, Toby and Davinson. that with our attacking options maybe getting one or two more added to it means we'll break most teams down over an hour and a half of football. Hopefully some really great times ahead
Exactly. I feel like it gives us more of a threat going forwards too with our wide players having greater license to bomb ahead, whereas with four at the back they have to be a little more cautious and we're often reliant on some magic from the attacking trio. Longer term I'd love to see if KWP could cover the left flank too as I do think Davies was a lot weaker for this than our other three fallbacks last season.
 
To me this seems like Toby's replacement. Toby leaves next summer while we groom this guy for a year to take his spot

If that's the case...I'm dreading it happening. Also, not sure where this leaves Dier?

Don't get me wrong, he looks quality and was a standout performer in the Europa League Final. I just don't understand the outlay on a centre half, when we seem to baulk at just about everyone else's price tag?

Dier's flexibility means we can currently keep all our players happy and Wimmer and CCV are good enough as 4th and 5th choice.

...If this is so we can consistently play 3 at the back, i'd be more concerned about securing a couple of flying wing backs; given Rose's recent convulsions and Trippier and Davies being more suited to the traditional full back role?

Saying that, in Poch we trust!
 
To me this seems like Toby's replacement. Toby leaves next summer while we groom this guy for a year to take his spot
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I think Toby will sign a new contract tbh, and think we will get the Sanchez guy, him in a back 3 with Toby and Jan would be beastly

Both of them playing at Ajax & Poch's and our reputation for youngsters will win it over for him

We will see. Toby is a huge part of our future if he wants to be. He could use his career to catapult a team back to where it belongs or he can move to Bayern, Barca etc. Let's hope he sees the project is a truly unique one and that in Poch and the nucleus, we have all the foundations any team could wish for to make it happen. It will happen, but only if those already there have trust in Poch and see it through
 
If that's the case...I'm dreading it happening. Also, not sure where this leaves Dier?

Don't get me wrong, he looks quality and was a standout performer in the Europa League Final. I just don't understand the outlay on a centre half, when we seem to baulk at just about everyone else's price tag?

Dier's flexibility means we can currently keep all our players happy and Wimmer and CCV are good enough as 4th and 5th choice.

...If this is so we can consistently play 3 at the back, i'd be more concerned about securing a couple of flying wing backs; given Rose's recent convulsions and Trippier and Davies being more suited to the traditional full back role?

Saying that, in Poch we trust!

The way I see it is that this season we'd primarily play three at the back with Vertonghen/Alderweireld/Sanchez/Dier for CB with CCV as the 5th option. RWB - Trippier/KWP/Sissoko. LWB - Rose/Davis/not even sure who's the third choice.

Dier competes at CB and competes at CM. I'm sure he plays a ton of game still. If I recall correctly, he played if not the most games of any player, he played one of the most games. This will allow him to not have to play every single game while still being useful and allowing Sanchez to settle in.

Maybe i'm very pessimistic, but I don't see Toby signing with us again, which means that Levy will probably sell after this summer. I would absolutely hate for Toby to leave and he is one of my favorite players, just simply trying to look at things objectively.
 
I understand what you're saying here, but I don't like the implications. You seem to be saying that clubs and players should all behave in a way that preserves the status quo, one that gives teams the biggest teams in world football the inalienable right to look upon smaller clubs as feeder clubs.

I know we might struggle to prevent players wanting to join Barcalona or Real Madrid, but we shouldn't feel compelled to sell.

As a sentiment, it's on a par with teams like Barcelona thinking they should be guaranteed a place in the CL regardless of whether they qualify or not.

My opinion is not that big clubs should see smaller clubs as feeder clubs, but that smaller clubs should realise themselves, end embrace, their status as feeder clubs - and use that status to grow.

Look at Benfica, what they produce in terms of quality players, and results, and money. Look at Dortmund. Look at Monaco. And, I would also add, Ajax.

If the club sets out to build the infrastructure that allows players to develop, and show players that they are willing to be used as a stepping stone, they can attract some of the best talent on the planet and enjoy them while they are developing. To me, it's the most rational approach a big club in a smaller league can take. It's the only way that such clubs can hope to be successful over time, in my opinion. And the talent the supporters get to enjoy, for a limited time, whenever such clubs strikes gold - which is quite frequently, if set up right - should be more enjoyable than anything they could hope to achieve with other business models.

Note: I am not including the PSG business model, which of course could attract and retain more senior quality.

This "ideology" has the implications that I do not feel any resentment towards Bale or Modric, although I wish there had been less drama surrounding their transfers. Although we lost two great players, we got money to potentially help us improve beyond what we were with them.

And that's the thing. Whenever a smaller club sells a fantastic player, it can buy a slightly worse replacement and upgrade two or three other positions for the cash. Sometimes it doesn't work out, but often it should.

And, more importantly, the players' needs has to be respected. I know they are filthy rich, that they have signed the contracts without a gun to their heads. But they are most likely either encouraged or required to sign for many years to land their deals. Having a player tied down for his best years in a club below his level is not good for football in general, as it's poor use of resources, and it certainly is not good for the player. In many cases I would also argue that it is not good for the club that owns said player.

Now, does that mean we should allow Alli to leave for City should he want and they come calling? No, because we are direct rivals for the PL. Van Dijk to Liverpool? No, because Southampton are expected to be a couple of places behind Liverpool and given a fortunate outcome they could overtake them. Van Dijk to City? Maybe. Van Dijk to Barca? Yes, if they offered a reasonable fee.

Davinson Sanchez to Spurs? Yes, if the fee offered is reasonable.

Is this the same as saying Barca or any other team should get automatic qualification for CL? Of course not. Far from it.
 

This article supports a lot of my arguments:
1. Ajax got him over Barca because of their standing: He knew he'd get to play at Ajax, and that he'd be able to leave for greener pastures after proving himself there.
2. He's too good for the league, and won't improve for long staying there.
3. Ajax makes 1000% return on investment on him, giving them money to improve facilities and to find new talent.
4. The fans got to experience the european career birth of yet another potential superstar.
 
Honestly, while I do understand the trepidation on splashing out a club record fee for a young unknown quantity, I think this signing would be a massive signal of intent. If its true what is being reported, that the barcas, reals, and Chelsea of the world think this kid is the truth, it could be a huge coup for lil old Spurs. I love the Ajax connection, and having three Super Joden in the backline would be fantastic for the way we want to play, and it would free up Dier to reinforce his claim at CDM
 
Honestly, while I do understand the trepidation on splashing out a club record fee for a young unknown quantity, I think this signing would be a massive signal of intent. If its true what is being reported, that the barcas, reals, and Chelsea of the world think this kid is the truth, it could be a huge coup for lil old Spurs. I love the Ajax connection, and having three Super Joden in the backline would be fantastic for the way we want to play, and it would free up Dier to reinforce his claim at CDM

This is just the kind of player that we should aim to buy, always. Young, extremely talented, but still unproven.

Simultaneously, he proves why it's so difficult for us to land players: He chose Ajax over Barca to be certain that he'd get playing time with the first team. Young players today mostly seems very sensible, realising that they are not born superstars, that they need to take the journey to the top step by step and that first-team football is important for their development.

We have such a terrific first eleven, or even twelve, that it is hard for anyone breaking into it, and thus risky for the kind of players that we want and need to join us.
 
My opinion is not that big clubs should see smaller clubs as feeder clubs, but that smaller clubs should realise themselves, end embrace, their status as feeder clubs - and use that status to grow.
This seems self-contradictory to me. If a 'smaller' club should regard themselves as a feeder club, then the 'bigger' clubs will inevitably think of them that way. I'm not saying this isn't the way the world of football works, just that we should say it how it is.
And, more importantly, the players' needs has to be respected. I know they are filthy rich, that they have signed the contracts without a gun to their heads. But they are most likely either encouraged or required to sign for many years to land their deals. Having a player tied down for his best years in a club below his level is not good for football in general, as it's poor use of resources, and it certainly is not good for the player. In many cases I would also argue that it is not good for the club that owns said player.

Now, does that mean we should allow Alli to leave for City should he want and they come calling? No, because we are direct rivals for the PL.
So, to be clear, you would fully support Barcelona and or Real Madrid coming for Alli in this transfer window? We're obviously the smaller club in this situation; and keeping Alli tied down at a smaller club when the bigger ones come calling would be bad for them, not good for us and not good for football in general.

What happened if one or more bigger teams came for more than one of our players? Where do you say 'no' and, in light of the arguments you've used above, how do you justify saying no?
 
This is just the kind of player that we should aim to buy, always. Young, extremely talented, but still unproven.

Simultaneously, he proves why it's so difficult for us to land players: He chose Ajax over Barca to be certain that he'd get playing time with the first team. Young players today mostly seems very sensible, realising that they are not born superstars, that they need to take the journey to the top step by step and that first-team football is important for their development.

We have such a terrific first eleven, or even twelve, that it is hard for anyone breaking into it, and thus risky for the kind of players that we want and need to join us.

Yeah were definitely a bit victims of our own success. However, I think this dude could be a first team contributor right away, and I think the prospect of learning from/eventually taking over for 2 Ajax legends would be more enticing then a handful of Catalan appearances. I'm not going to say I won't be slightly gutted if it doesn't come off, but after a summer where I was very underwhelmed by the players we seemed to be targeting, right now I'm just happy were trying to get such a highly rated player on board. This is exactly the kind of signing Danny Rose was asking for, whether he has to google his name or not.
 
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