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Player Dejan Kulusevski

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Sounds like Conte is sacrificing the wingers to play Kane up front?

Seems like the dumbest thing ever?
Something is going on. Maybe it’s Kane himself not wanting to play deep as often.

Either way, the key to this team clicking is Kane in pockets and picking passes to runners or making 1v1 room for Kulu by pulling defenders in. When he plays pure #9 we are a team with zero creativity in central areas.
 
Seems like all of our wingers who did great last year is struggling this year....

Really don't get it... is it because of the formation or what? Something seems off....

He's played less games/minutes, and been more injured this season, etc. Its in the stats above.

I think Conte's act is not fresh with the squad anymore. Many have become jaded to it, and are underperforming as compared to last year. Kulu is no different.

Kulu is one of the least of our problems right now though, so I'm surprised to see so much criticism here. He's head and shoulders above any other attacker on our squad bar Kane.
 
Sounds like Conte is sacrificing the wingers to play Kane up front?

Seems like the dumbest thing ever?
Assuming my take has some merit, what else do you do when you have a Dueterz-validated WC striker approaching records while also wanting out? You have to appease him...not sure too much is on Conte if my take is accurate. It's part of the reason I was happy to move HK on instead of potentially altering what is best for the team.
 
Sounds like Conte is sacrificing the wingers to play Kane up front?

Seems like the dumbest thing ever?
There's definitely something going this season where the LF/RF are dropping deep rather than Kane. Whether that a deliberate positive attacking tactic of ours, or just a counter tactic we've been forced to develop because of opposition defensive tactics is up for debate. Either way it's not really working, and especially so for Son.

Kulu I think can play this sort of game more readily, but also he has been sacrificed too often for inferior subs, and taken off when Son was playing far, far worse. It does seem like Kulu has been a bit stung by some of that, which is unfortunate as hes secretly our number 2 most important player.
 
Assuming my take has some merit, what else do you do when you have a Dueterz-validated WC striker approaching records while also wanting out? You have to appease him...not sure too much is on Conte if my take is accurate. It's part of the reason I was happy to move HK on instead of potentially altering what is best for the team.
IF that is true by your statement, sounds like Kane is willing to sacrifice others to get his and doesn't care if the team loses??
 
There's definitely something going this season where the LF/RF are dropping deep rather than Kane. Whether that a deliberate positive attacking tactic of ours, or just a counter tactic we've been forced to develop because of opposition defensive tactics is up for debate. Either way it's not really working, and especially so for Son.

Kulu I think can play this sort of game more readily, but also he has been sacrificed too often for inferior subs, and taken off when Son was playing far, far worse. It does seem like Kulu has been a bit stung by some of that, which is unfortunate as hes secretly our number 2 most important player.
If that is true... Conte needs to go... NOW lol
 
Assuming my take has some merit, what else do you do when you have a Dueterz-validated WC striker approaching records while also wanting out? You have to appease him...not sure too much is on Conte if my take is accurate. It's part of the reason I was happy to move HK on instead of potentially altering what is best for the team.

Kane moving on is the end of this team. If he moves this summer we are in full rebuild and is at least 2 seasons before getting back to challenges for top4
 
IF that is true by your statement, sounds like Kane is willing to sacrifice others to get his and doesn't care if the team loses??
Kane wants to be a line-leading striker, not the striker that drops deep because he has to or the team can't create. Conte appears to have tried to make something happen to this effect but it has not worked as well as hoped. There hasn't appeared to be any deviation from this plan, nor does there appear to be a plan b, except maybe set pieces, which is a dire prospect.

Not sure what is going on but it kinda feels like Kane is trying to see if the team (and Levy) can do it how he likes it, and is somewhat unwilling to compromise on his role he has envisioned for himself. It's a bit frustrating to watch as a fan, but seems about right for a club that hasn't quite shown as much ambition as it's best player has.
 
IF that is true by your statement, sounds like Kane is willing to sacrifice others to get his and doesn't care if the team loses??
Well, I could see the logic in it if this is his last season with us...he wanted to be club top scorer I'm sure...and he didn't make a stink last summer as he did the summer before. I'm not sure I'd go to the selfishness take. We had a preseason to gameplan and train for this tactical wrinkle. I'm also not sure that doing what we did last season would have worked this season as surprise would have been expectation...similar to Mou's reign.

But with Kane further forward and two wingers less effective in the tighter buildup spaces one can easily see how Kulu's (and Sonny's) effectiveness could wane. But this perceived effectiveness was based on quite fortunate shiny objects last season.

And as per usual, I say shiny objects and he shall appear, what Deuterz Deuterz pointed out was important, he way surpassed his xG last season. If you want to take a look at the goals he scored you will see there was good fortune and not necessarily design in a lot of them. It will be important for folks to pay attention to the run in with this player in order to truly understand what he offers.
 
And as per usual, I say shiny objects and he shall appear, what Deuterz Deuterz pointed out was important, he way surpassed his xG last season. If you want to take a look at the goals he scored you will see there was good fortune and not necessarily design in a lot of them. It will be important for folks to pay attention to the run in with this player in order to truly understand what he offers.

It was more his xA that he exceeded. He did also exceed xG but by xA he basically got 2x the assists he 'should' have done. Which is pure luck as exceeding xA is all down to how clinical your teammates are, whereas at least if you exceed xG you can argue skill.

This season he's doing the same ... he's only expected 3 assists but has 5. None of which is to say he's a bad player, which is what other people will see .. he's good, but situational. And his ceiling isn't where people thought it was.

*Bentancur is the same. Really good midfielder, our best one, but got overhyped to ridiculous levels on here because we're so deprived of genuine talent outside of Kane/Son for yonks that anyone competent looks like the new R9.
 
It was more his xA that he exceeded. He did also exceed xG but by xA he basically got 2x the assists he 'should' have done. Which is pure luck as exceeding xA is all down to how clinical your teammates are, whereas at least if you exceed xG you can argue skill.
Welp, you can argue skill...and many of the shiny object aficionados would but there's would be an unconvincing argument.

This season he's doing the same ... he's only expected 3 assists but has 5. None of which is to say he's a bad player, which is what other people will see .. he's good, but situational. And his ceiling isn't where people thought it was.
....yeah, so not worth a foreign 40M spot. This is the aspect folks need to concentrate on, team building. Locking up a non-Brexit spot with a player that isn't truly good enough to start for an ambitious team.

*Bentancur is the same. Really good midfielder, our best one, but got overhyped to ridiculous levels on here because we're so deprived of genuine talent outside of Kane/Son for yonks that anyone competent looks like the new R9.
Now you've gone and done it...happy clappy incoming in 3.....2.....1....
 
Welp, you can argue skill...and many of the shiny object aficionados would but there's would be an unconvincing argument.


....yeah, so not worth a foreign 40M spot. This is the aspect folks need to concentrate on, team building. Locking up a non-Brexit spot with a player that isn't truly good enough to start for an ambitious team.


Now you've gone and done it...happy clappy incoming in 3.....2.....1....

If a player more often than not exceeds xG across a career then it's definitely skill ... the art of finishing is a skill, if you're well over xG most of the time (i.e Messi) then you're probably scoring goals nobody else would score. Or at least finishing at an inhuman rate. Doesn't really apply to Kulu.

Meh ... 40m isn't much these days. Personally think he's worth that in this market as he's a player who, in a good season, could get you 20+ g/a and be a reliable, technically competent, intelligent footballer. But would I be devastated if we didn't buy? Not really. For an English equivalent to Kulu (in ability) you'd pay 50/60m easy though. We paid 60 for Richy, I don't trust this club.

Couldn't give a shit. Much like I don't care that as soon as Kulu scores/has an amazing game this thread will be bombarded with "have that haters!!" and "Raumdeuterz smells!!". I like both players (they're a fucking shitload more enjoyable to watch than say Hojbjerg or Dier or any one of the actually rubbish players we have) by virtue of not making me want to headbutt my screen.
 
If a player more often than not exceeds xG across a career then it's definitely skill
Right...sooooooo, conversely, what does it say when a player more often than not is underwater of his xG? Asking for a friend...

Meh ... 40m isn't much these days. Personally think he's worth that in this market as he's a player who, in a good season, could get you 20+ g/a and be a reliable, technically competent, intelligent footballer. But would I be devastated if we didn't buy? Not really. For an English equivalent to Kulu (in ability) you'd pay 50/60m easy though. We paid 60 for Richy, I don't trust this club.
Foreign spot, Deuterz! It is what we are dealing with right now...and as I've stated many a season ago this nonsense is used to block real team building...and he ain't getting 20 goal contribs..and even if he does it's shiny objects, man. What else does he do? And Michael Olise was 20M, English, and available...but we went here...still need HGs...

Couldn't give a shit. Much like I don't care that as soon as Kulu scores/has an amazing game this thread will be bombarded with "have that haters!!" and "Raumdeuterz smells!!". I like both players (they're a fucking shitload more enjoyable to watch than say Hojbjerg or Dier or any one of the actually rubbish players we have) by virtue of not making me want to headbutt my screen.
The bold is true though.
 
Right...sooooooo, conversely, what does it say when a player more often than not is underwater of his xG? Asking for a friend...


Foreign spot, Deuterz! It is what we are dealing with right now...and as I've stated many a season ago this nonsense is used to block real team building...and he ain't getting 20 goal contribs..and even if he does it's shiny objects, man. What else does he do? And Michael Olise was 20M, English, and available...but we went here...still need HGs...


The bold is true though.

If you mean Kane he’s only been under xG one season in his whole career (last season) and otherwise has exceeded it!

Yeah this is true. I just don’t trust us with getting good HG talent. Most clubs have a couple more youth products knocking about and supplement with your Milners or Holdings. If you’re City or United you splash out 100 or 80m on Grealish or Maguire and well..

But it’s definitely an issue. Olise would’ve been amazing. Toney (depending on ban) would be a good one to add. Maybe Marcus Edwards? Haven’t seen enough of him but HG + club trained is pretty big.
 
So, let me get this right, you 2? with a random axe to grind against our second-best, maybe third-best player depending on Romero have got you heads together over a few posts and the best reason you can come up with for not liking Kulu is because expected assists?
 
If you mean Kane he’s only been under xG one season in his whole career (last season) and otherwise has exceeded it!
No, Deuterz! I understand that he is the focus of all your fever dreams but I am not talking about your boy...and you don't have to interject him into every discussion...this is the Kulu thread and I'm talking about Kulu.

Another way of saying that is, "yes, todd, you are correct". It should be habit by now, Deuterz!

I just don’t trust us with getting good HG talent.
This is an oft-proffered argument but it's poor on it's face...we are also poor at getting non-Brexit talent...Deuterific solution: NO MORE TRANSFERS!!!!

A better take is, if you are buying shit then why not pay less for it AND satisfy another imperative? Or do you just like to buy expensive shit to show folks that you are hot shit? Hot shit always ends up being a cold turd, Deuterz.

But it’s definitely an issue.
Yes, yes it is...and it is one that retaining the likes of Kulu will complicate. And though you scoff at the 40M thingy it is real and he will then be kept until his amortization numbers are good relative to market or buying him out. He will be here for 5 years, a player identified even before he kicked a ball for us as probably not good enough. If that's not locking in a ceiling then I don't know what is. Are you one of Levy's influencers like VichySpurs is?
 
Opposition defences have worked him out. He's playing on the right and is very left- footed.
They haven't. He's making mistakes that he wasn't making last season. His crosses have become a lot less reliable, he's become indecisive, doesn't shoot after cutting inside even when the defence parts like the red sea.

His energy isn't the same either tbh, most likely due to the injuries.
 
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