If Spence ends up not getting a game, does that vindicate Conte somewhat?
Not necessarily..... Perhaps if Spence has more gametime he wouldn't have ended up with Porro blocking his pathway.
........Numerous maybes to toy with.
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If Spence ends up not getting a game, does that vindicate Conte somewhat?
No we have done this to death. If you are a smart coach tactically capable and savvy, you can use even players that you do not particularly want. Conte was so one note it was embarrassing. If you look at us the last part of his tenure we could have picked up point not only using Spencd but Devine and and Sarr.Contd wasn't interested he had decided to leave and it was only about how to quit and keep as much money as possible.If Spence ends up not getting a game, does that vindicate Conte somewhat
No we have done this to death. If you are a smart coach tactically capable and savvy, you can use even players that you do not particularly want. Conte was so one note it was embarrassing. If you look at us the last part of his tenure we could have picked up point not only using Spencd but Devine and and Sarr.Contd wasn't interested he had decided to leave and it was only about how to quit and keep as much money as possible.
I give you an example mate from Conte himself. So he made it clear he did not want N'dombele and Dele. Then we had an injury crisis and forced to use them we went to one of the toughest grounds in the country(Anfeild) and with two better finishes we win that. We played some of our best football and both unwanted players were top class. He promptly binned them. He was still invested at this point so he compromised, he had zero inclination regards Spence. Things will be rough next season but I'm so glad he's gone and Ange has more emotional intelligence in the medium to long term we will be a better club for itI mostly agree, but from the very beginning, Conte made it clear that he didn't want Spence, "club signing" etc. So perhaps in his case, he's a player simply thought not to be good enough. And if the next manager also doesn't fancy the player, then perhaps Contes opinion - strictly in the case of Spence - had some merit.
For all I know Ange rates him, I'm just playing devil's advocate really.
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The Djed Spence era over before it started?
I think it's more of an attitude issue.![]()
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The Djed Spence era over before it started?
Saw this coming a mile off.
A transfer nobody seemed to want yet we went ahead with it anyway. We'll be lucky to get our money back, who is going to pay £20 million for him now?
He's pretty good, but any player needs gametime in a good structure to figure out their shit. Emerson is a good, dependable player. We spunked 40m on Porro chasing a future that wasn't there with Conte. Spence is out in the cold a bit.. but I do think he'll be a good PL player at some stage, if his attitude isn't an issue as was rumoured at BoroOn the contrary, Fab, Levy and most of the fans were all seemingly very keen last summer.
No one. He will go for 5-10M to a championship club.Sell him to Forest - They have Serge Aurier as a starting wingback so maybe they’d give us 20M for him. Still young and he was well liked up there … and put in a buyback clause just in case he comes good …
Donna etc. the manager didn’t want himOn the contrary, Fab, Levy and most of the fans were all seemingly very keen last summer.
What do you want people to say? He has two senior RBs in front of him.Half this board were losing their shit when this dude wasn’t being picked. Gone a bit quiet now…
Maybe people can admit they were wrong when they said that Conte wasn't picking him as a way of sticking two fingers up at the board ?What do you want people to say? He has two senior RBs in front of him.
Why would that prove people are wrong? He's not as good at attack as Porro, but who is?Maybe people can admit they were wrong when they said that Conte wasn't picking him as a way of sticking two fingers up at the board ?
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Eh ??Why would that prove people are wrong? He's not as good at attack as Porro, but who is?
Literally nobody was saying he was better than Porro. People were saying he should be given a chance instead of Royal before Porro was bought when we needed to attack teams because he's more attacking, but now that we've bought Porro he doesn't really have a role.Eh ??
People were saying he was better than Royal and Porro, and the only reason he wasn't being played was because Conte was throwing a strop.
If we're looking to sell him it proves that people were wrong because he is not better than Royal or Porro.
I said at the time, if you're 5th choice RWB at a club with only two RWBs , there's a problem with the player.