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Player Djed Spence

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we'll see if he plays against united, think there's a good chance he either plays in place of Destiny he may be injured, or Porro since Ange was rightly pissed with him after Rangers.
He's become a right liability this season defensively
 
He either doesn't train well or just naturally looks uninterested all the time causing people to think he has an attitude issue.

Whatever the issue with him is, it doesn't seem to be football related.
 
I think the honest answer is Ange didn’t seem to think much of him, based on whatever it was that made the last few managers also not rate him - I think last night he surprised Ange by what he can do in a game when called upon, as it appeared his performance against Coventry didn’t get him an extended chance.

I’m hoping he gets further more consistent chances moving forward now, but I’m not buying the ‘we just haven’t had room to fit him in’ type line.
It’s a bullshit comment from Ange. We absolutely need to have viable rotation for the fullbacks in his system or they’ll end up as broken as our centre backs. To date, he’s preferred (for whatever reason) to put square pegs in round holes when it’s been forced on him through the injuries that the training, the system or whatever it is has saddled him with.
He clearly didn’t/doesn’t fancy Spence. To be fair, neither has anyone else so far.
But from what I saw of him before we signed him and the rare appearances he’s made for us, he looks a perfectly capable player to rotate either full back.
He deserves a good run now to allow Porro & Udogie to have a break.
And he should also get minutes if we’re chasing games as he’s an attacking threat. The ball through to Maddison for the opener was absolutely filthy.
 
Vibrancy. Drive. Pace. Freshness.

The lad brought a huge bundle of traits we’ve been low on.

A couple of times he motored back to challenge, then made a decent challenge. This feeds others to do similar, like Lamela used to bring.
 
club investment game time prioritization:

20m Djed / 40m archie

1/3rd game time / 2/3rds game time

Should make sense, no?
No that's a nonsense. They are not either or, Archie Gray is 18. What I see on various issue is a coach whose ego gets in the way. There's no guarantee Gray has a higher developmental ceiling than Spence either.

Ange boxed himself in with some strange choices then seemed loathed to unpick the mess created. Spence in all honesty looks as able as the two fullbacks that have been flogged in his stead ...he may prove better in terms of all round game than either because the defending of both Porro and Udogie on occasion woeful . My mate taken to calling the horror and you-dodgy.
 
TBH, I thought he was a wrong 'un.
But in pre-season he looked good and I am surprised he has had to wait so long for a start.
Almost faultless on both the right and left yesterday.
Great attitude running back to help out defensively if moves broke down and he is SWIFT!
 
TBH, I thought he was a wrong 'un.
But in pre-season he looked good and I am surprised he has had to wait so long for a start.
Almost faultless on both the right and left yesterday.
Great attitude running back to help out defensively if moves broke down and he is SWIFT!

And strong too refusing to be shaken off as he made the run that resulted in our first goal!
 
No that's a nonsense. They are not either or, Archie Gray is 18. What I see on various issue is a coach whose ego gets in the way. There's no guarantee Gray has a higher developmental ceiling than Spence either.

Ange boxed himself in with some strange choices then seemed loathed to unpick the mess created. Spence in all honesty looks as able as the two fullbacks that have been flogged in his stead ...he may prove better in terms of all round game than either because the defending of both Porro and Udogie on occasion woeful . My mate taken to calling the horror and you-dodgy.
Lol ya sorry was just playing a little bit of devil's advocate with the OP SeeSpotRun SeeSpotRun
 
club investment game time prioritization:

20m Djed / 40m archie

1/3rd game time / 2/3rds game time

Should make sense, no?

Absolutely!

Except it was 12M for Djed and it was two years ago so 40% has already been written off through amortisation so book value is now 7.2M. So more 40:7.2 means game time priority 5.6 to 1.

Archie so far 963 minutes, Djed 186, ratio 5.2:1, pretty close.

All firmly tongue in cheek.
 
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TBH, I thought he was a wrong 'un.
But in pre-season he looked good and I am surprised he has had to wait so long for a start.
Almost faultless on both the right and left yesterday.
Great attitude running back to help out defensively if moves broke down and he is SWIFT!
Said the same with him in the back line and VDV you have two players who can get back and cover. Porro doesn’t have the pace and destiny the awareness.
 
Unbelievable comments- does he really think we are so stupid as to believe that? Or is he really so stupid as to believe it?
Cover! Where? If he means gray then he’s talking BS! Gray is CM by trade. He could have put him on v bmouth instead of Porro but chose not to. You never know he may have a made a diff with bursting run down the right. All on Ange.
Total BS from Ange there in that quote.
 
He doesn’t believe it. All managers talk shit in press conferences, no idea why people take it as face value. Clearly there’s an issue with Spence (not a footballing / ability issue).
I watched the interview and it sounded like he meant it.

Telling for me is that he only mentioned cover at RB, which is true. I think Gray started RB in the City league cup win so Gray was behind and waiting then.

Tells me that he doesn’t really see him as LB cover even if the club didn’t get him cover for Destiny and VDV. But he’s probably played more minutes at LB than RB this season.
 
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