I agree - on a general point.
I can't understand playing a poacher - if you are not creating chances.
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I agree - on a general point.
I can't understand playing a poacher - if you are not creating chances.
Another cop out.
Name the players who were on the market in 2024 who we could realistically get and why they would be an out and out better option than Solanke was.
Literally every time I ask this question I just get crickets in response, not holding my breath here
Easiest fucking dare ever. Mbappé moved that summer.
My turn.
I dare you to wear a “I love Daniel Levy” t shirt into the South Stand the final day of the season.
Another cop out.
Name the players who were on the market in 2024 who we could realistically get and why they would be an out and out better option than Solanke was.
Literally every time I ask this question I just get crickets in response, not holding my breath here
It's a genuinely fair but also irrelevant point. We didn't.
I would say that we might have gone for Wissa, Mateta, and possibly a couple of others, but neither of these 2 and no others, PL-wise had had better seasons. Delap was maybe an option but he hasn't done anything to suggest we missed out, and he wasn't on the radar for 2022/23.
In that sense the acquisition of Solanke made sense but it signified a downgrade. And that is part of a problem that moght lead to relegation, and again I stress that's not blaming Solanke for it.
In such circumstances, what a club must do is work tirelessly at finding other goalscorers. We acquired Muani, and underused/lost faith in Johnson. In other words we left ourselves woefully short of firepower.
Your point or observation does not change the fact that in Solanke, I don't think we have a striker our fans believe will score lots of goals or a striker our opponents fear too much.
It's entirely relevant because people are saying we shouldn't have signed him and he was a bad buy but there was literally no one better on the market in the Summer who we could acquire.
Delap, Mateta and Wissa didn't have their breakout seasons until 24/25 so they wouldn't have been an option that Summer and apart from Mateta they got their moves and have been crap anyway
That Summer though:
Zirkzee when to Utd for €42.5m - would you have taken him?
Rutter went from Leeds to Brighton for €46.7m - what about him?
Alvarez went to Atletico - out of our league
Osimhen - same as above
Gyokeres went to Sporting that Summer and was coming off the back of his Coventry stint
Jonathan David was available but where is he now?
Tammy Abraham? Nah
Gift Orban? lol
Go back to the previous Summer we had strikers like Hojlund (£70m) and Nunez £65m move and they both flopped, Jackson went to Chelsea for £43m and flopped
Even if we sold Solanke this Summer who do you look at on the market now who you'd think will the upgrade to him? Name me a stand out player who is likely to be an upgrade, you won't.
Striker market is dead - there is no Kane replacement, you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment
Charlie F - There's some of your '20' players right there, now name the rest
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So is he injured, injured injured or Injured injured injured?
Most strikers when fouled in the box, react strongly or exaggerate but all Solanke does is hold his bloody gloved hands out sideways with a ‘weak short smile ‘ on his face. Annoys me.
It's entirely relevant because people are saying we shouldn't have signed him and he was a bad buy but there was literally no one better on the market in the Summer who we could acquire.
Delap, Mateta and Wissa didn't have their breakout seasons until 24/25 so they wouldn't have been an option that Summer and apart from Mateta they got their moves and have been crap anyway
That Summer though:
Zirkzee when to Utd for €42.5m - would you have taken him?
Rutter went from Leeds to Brighton for €46.7m - what about him?
Alvarez went to Atletico - out of our league
Osimhen - same as above
Gyokeres went to Sporting that Summer and was coming off the back of his Coventry stint
Jonathan David was available but where is he now?
Tammy Abraham? Nah
Gift Orban? lol
Go back to the previous Summer we had strikers like Hojlund (£70m) and Nunez £65m move and they both flopped, Jackson went to Chelsea for £43m and flopped
Even if we sold Solanke this Summer who do you look at on the market now who you'd think will the upgrade to him? Name me a stand out player who is likely to be an upgrade, you won't.
Striker market is dead - there is no Kane replacement, you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment
Charlie F - There's some of your '20' players right there, now name the rest
Firstly I'm not in those guys or any guise, other than my own.
I'm not arguing that I didn't see the sense but your one line is nobody was better. Well maybe and maybe not because we only know what's happened with Solanke at our club and not what another striker might have offered us. Fact mate before you seek to dissect. We simply don't know definitively.
As for selling Solanke and finding better. I think it will be hard but not impossible. Who - no idea.
If we go down I probably would keep him but he doesn't beat a player, doesn't shoot with any venom from distance, is one-footed (I know he has 2 legs), and is he really that good in the air?
Solanke runs a bit and leads a press. For 55 million pounds, that's not much of a return.
I grew up with crooks and Archibald. Then clive allen, Lineker, Sheringham, Klinsmann and berbatov. The only shit ones I saw were Campbell, rasiak, mahorn and now solanke.How old are you?We've signed some complete and utter dogshit over the years. Signed plenty worse up front, for big money at the time too. Helder Postiga anyone? Soldado too, appalling players for us.
Liked him last season , gave 100% every game , after the city game this season when he scored 2 and was a handful , I thought he’d be our saviour but this lack of effort culture that has enveloped the club has gotten to him and take away his effort and what is left is a bang average player who I don’t feel has any real love for the game or playing for us .
It's entirely relevant because people are saying we shouldn't have signed him and he was a bad buy but there was literally no one better on the market in the Summer who we could acquire.
Delap, Mateta and Wissa didn't have their breakout seasons until 24/25 so they wouldn't have been an option that Summer and apart from Mateta they got their moves and have been crap anyway
That Summer though:
Zirkzee when to Utd for €42.5m - would you have taken him?
Rutter went from Leeds to Brighton for €46.7m - what about him?
Alvarez went to Atletico - out of our league
Osimhen - same as above
Gyokeres went to Sporting that Summer and was coming off the back of his Coventry stint
Jonathan David was available but where is he now?
Tammy Abraham? Nah
Gift Orban? lol
Go back to the previous Summer we had strikers like Hojlund (£70m) and Nunez £65m move and they both flopped, Jackson went to Chelsea for £43m and flopped
Even if we sold Solanke this Summer who do you look at on the market now who you'd think will the upgrade to him? Name me a stand out player who is likely to be an upgrade, you won't.
Striker market is dead - there is no Kane replacement, you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment
Charlie F - There's some of your '20' players right there, now name the rest
Thiago
Pedro
Etikie
Kluivert
Wellbeck
Mitoma
Mbuemo
Cunha
Semanyo
Evanillson
Calvert Lewin
Beto
All would have been less than £65m ( at the time ) some a lot less
I have left out players like Chris Wood who is arguably the same - some would say better.
And yes they would have been gettable - Solanke was not on the transfer list - we came with a stupid bid and got him.
There are other that are not in the PL - who could have bought.
Solanke is a 1 in 4 Pl scorer and a 1 - 20 assists. that is basically the cut off for being a PL player striker. It does not get much worse than that
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This guy.
We don't know either way but my point is I very much doubt that any other striker would have fared much better in the time he's been with us because none of these have stand out qualities that differ that much from Solanke.
We have finished 17th last season and will probably get relegated this season if not finish 17th, in that time we've lost most of our matches and played poorly, none of the other players have stepped up either - what's more our striker(s) have had to feed off pittance.
Last season under Ange he has had two wingers who can't cross the ball, a 10 who played further away from him and full backs who used to come infield and he was very sacrifice for Johnson i.e. he wasn't the focal point of the team. This season he's had a long term injury 3 managers a very inconsistent team with once again barely any service.
So with that being said why would any other striker in the same circumstance fared so much better?
Guirrassy with his tiny release clause.Another cop out.
Name the players who were on the market in 2024 who we could realistically get and why they would be an out and out better option than Solanke was.
Literally every time I ask this question I just get crickets in response, not holding my breath here
Toney, a dick, but undoubtedly better.
Wissa.
Jonathan David (at Juve now)
Ekitike
Inaki Williams
You say Alvarez was out of our league, but he really wasn't, he was out of Levy's league.
Edit: Joao Pedro
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What is this lol
Some of these players aren't even strikers, some of them weren't even available and some weren't even as good as they are now, as if you would have taken Beto and Beto is still crap. Good Lord ! You didn't even know who he or Ivan Thiago was back in 2024
Evanilson hasn't even bettered Solanke's goal tally for Bournemouth in a better team than Solanke had, laughable to suggest he'd even get anywhere near enough goals, he's a categorically worse finisher than Solanke, even Bournemouth fans will tell you that.
I would have loved to see any of these players play in our team where we have been an inconsistent mess over the past 2 years, Christ imagine the deadly trio of Calvert Lewin and Brennan Johnson with Werner on the the other side, pretty sure they'd be riots if we ended up with those 3.
Pure and utter hindsight talk lmao
A player who was barely ever injured before joining Spurs has now been injured for about 18 months of the last 2 years he's been here.