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ENIC In or ENIC Out


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I never wanted Ndombele, truth is when we bought him I'd never even heard of him.

Besides you can't make excuses for ENIC by drawing attention to one of their biggest cock ups, that's not the win you think it is. It's just further proof of their incompetence.
The bit about N'dombele being shit that makes me laugh is the fact that Spurs bought N'jie and N'Koudou but still didn't learn.

ENIC FC.

Polishing turds since 2001.
 
The absolute worst case scenario is that Lewis decides to sell up and Levy comes up with the funding to become majority shareholder.

I just don’t see anyway in which Levy walks away. Lewis couldn’t give a fuck, but Levy is going to be with us for decades.
I agree with the assessment that Levy considers this the work of his life and he'd consider it surrender to his enemies to walk away.

But where I disagree, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that new investors would put a penny into Spurs under a rubric of Levy's continued leadership.

The idea that real money people would look at him as anything other than a total archaic albatross whose presence is an ongoing damage to the financial potential of the club is Levybot fan fiction, full stop.
 
The absolute worst case scenario is that Lewis decides to sell up and Levy comes up with the funding to become majority shareholder.

I just don’t see anyway in which Levy walks away. Lewis couldn’t give a fuck, but Levy is going to be with us for decades.
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The absolute worst case scenario is that Lewis decides to sell up and Levy comes up with the funding to become majority shareholder.

I just don’t see anyway in which Levy walks away. Lewis couldn’t give a fuck, but Levy is going to be with us for decades.
I will relentlessly send a cut throat signal from my seat with the plebs until he fucks off

In all seriousness, no-one knows their strategy and they will keep quiet so as not to risk their nest egg. I think we can get after Levy and some heat will see him suck off Joe for a separation and pay-off.
That will probably equal a leveraged funding but at least that incompetent dwarf won’t be CEO which is our biggest barrier to success
 
I agree with the assessment that Levy considers this the work of his life and he'd consider it surrender to his enemies to walk away.

But where I disagree, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that new investors would put a penny into Spurs under a rubric of Levy's continued leadership.

The idea that real money people would look at him as anything other than a total archaic albatross whose presence is an ongoing damage to the financial potential of the club is Levybot fan fiction, full stop.
Depends how many investors are involved. If it’s a larger number of ‘smaller investors’, they might be more than happy to buy into the club and see it as nothing more than a bricks and mortar investment with a slight dash of glamour added to it. They may have zero interest in any sporting success or, indeed, see sporting success as having zero correlation to the long term value of the asset.

Levy could pitch to however many interested parties and not even use the words ‘football’ or ‘Tottenham’. He could simply state NFL, Beyoncé and Sky Premier League.
 
I've been on record for a long time stating that I don't care who owns the club.

But as usual, to you, Lenny Hatchet Lenny Hatchet and the rest of your crew someone who isnt vociferously ENICOut must wanna suck Daniel's balls.

And Distaste for scouse Distaste for scouse - I was only using Ndombele to show that they have been willing to spend big to back the manager in response to the argument that ENIC don't spend.

The fundamental issue is that what we have spent on players has, on the whole, turned out to be massive fuck ups. Never argued otherwise.

Shit managerial appointments, dogshit academy, terrible recruitment, a total lack of competing for silverware … yeah, this falls at ENIC’s door.

They are dreadful at running the football part of a football club. This will never change.
 
Depends how many investors are involved. If it’s a larger number of ‘smaller investors’, they might be more than happy to buy into the club and see it as nothing more than a bricks and mortar investment with a slight dash of glamour added to it. They may have zero interest in any sporting success or, indeed, see sporting success as having zero correlation to the long term value of the asset.

Levy could pitch to however many interested parties and not even use the words ‘football’ or ‘Tottenham’. He could simply state NFL, Beyoncé and Sky Premier League.
Why don't we start an Independent Supporters Association and pitch the idea of buying / taking the club from ENIC?

Start again without them.
 
They may...see sporting success as having zero correlation to the long term value of the asset.
But the thing is, that's not correct. Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is a white elephant without a suitable football club to occupy it. The other stuff is appealing window dressing, but window dressing all the same.

Not sure the PL would approve a takeover by a dog's breakfast of a coalition anyway.

The moral of the story, though, is that Levy's business reputation is a past-tense commodity. He's been found out by everyone who matters. The dead-end argument here with internet trolls is of purely academic interest.
 
But the thing is, that's not correct. Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is a white elephant without a suitable football club to occupy it.
‘Suitable’ though.

And does suitable mean a club at the very summit, with all the associated spending? Or, alternatively, a club that can offer a similar experience, some sort of European football and PL revenues.

Don’t get me wrong, I sure as shit want it to be the former. I’m simply suggesting that you could get interest in the latter.
 
Shit managerial appointments, dogshit academy, terrible recruitment, a total lack of competing for silverware … yeah, this falls at ENIC’s door.

They are dreadful at running the football part of a football club. This will never change.
It's a real pity that, nobody out there at the moment, is looking to buy the club.
I think if the right people came in, this club would take off, we know the current ownership just can't do it.
 
I thought all this ENIC bollocks was tedious before but it's even beyond that already this summer!

Firstly, ENIC will go when ENIC want to go. No amount of protests or booing or whinging on here will change that.

Next, as with everything, this isn't black and white. The ENICOut lot aren't 100% right no matter how many times they repeat the same argument. It is definitely also the case that Levy cannot be 100% defended. Our owners have made same right fuck-ups.

Sane people can see that the truth lies somewhere in the middle though.

ENIC have done a lot of good for this football club - on and off the pitch. We've a lot to be proud of and some seasons have been bloody enjoyable to watch. But the footy is now regressing and are these the people to bring the improvements?

Haters will blame ENIC for Jose, Conte, etc. Terrible decisions but that's mostly in hindsight. Some doubted from the off yes, but when Jose was hired most saw it as a sign that we were now about winning something cos that's what Jose does. Most fancied Conte before the Nuno debacle, again cos he was a 'proven winner'.

This morning there's loads of back and fore in the transfer thread about how we don't pay the wages we need to. Except, in the same thread, people a bemoaning the fact we can't get rid of Ndombele because of his high wages!

Following from that, there's the 'Poch wasn't backed' cry that rears it's head all the time. 'Oh what could have been if we had backed Poch!'. Who was the manager when we signed Ndombele for a record fee with massive wages? And again, most of us were excited to get him.

I know this place is about debate but seeing the same people spout the same cherry-picked half truths in every single thread gets more boring than a night in the pub with me!

23 years.
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You carry on banging your ENIC drum, mate.
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Yeah he is the example of when we did go big and did throw money and it didn't work.

And that's the issue, before his move most of us wanted us to throw the cash at him. It's hindsight that lets us know that we fucked up spectacularly.

Same with Jose.
Same with Conte.

These were moves that, on the whole, we're lauded at the time and just didn't work out.
I think many of us were a mixture of bewildered and cautious when Jose was appointed.

Conte, yeah, super excited. What a massive let down.

But Ndombele: folk were excited but the warning bells were there right from the word go:

 
I think many of us were a mixture of bewildered and cautious when Jose was appointed.

Conte, yeah, super excited. What a massive let down.

But Ndombele: folk were excited but the warning bells were there right from the word go:

Most of us didn't care about the alarm bells though. We wanted him. We wanted money thrown at him and it was.

Agree about Jose and Conte but, whatever side you fell, it was an attempt to win now regardless
 
Poch was great at many things, but spending money was not one of them.
His best results came with existing players (Lloris, Rose, Walker, Vertonghen, Dembele, Eriksen and Kane
In terms of signings, his best signings were in the Mitchel era and cheap really. Alderwiereld, Dele, Son,

That's most of his best team there. Existing players and cheap, tactical signings. We needed a CB. We needed attackers.
It’s not like we signed loads of “expensive” players under Pochettino. He was given Nkoudous, Njies and Janssens. I think Aurier and Moura weren’t expensive either. He’s had only one opportunity to get more expensive players and then he didn’t get to work more than 2-3 months with them.
 
Most of us didn't care about the alarm bells though. We wanted him. We wanted money thrown at him and it was.

Agree about Jose and Conte but, whatever side you fell, it was an attempt to win now regardless
True. There was a lot of buzz around Tanguy. He is a brilliant player.

I suppose the question is (and one that may already be answered as a lesson learned) is: if a player of interest has a history of laziness and bad attitude, should we even bother considering them, no matter how talented?
 
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