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Agreed!

To be fair to Levy imo the non-footballing events at the stadium aren't an issue, I don't know why some posters on here are so against them?
Because the football side of the business which is the real bread and butter is falling to the wayside. I really think I could live to see the day where we get relegated.
 
Nearer the end of the season, huge swathes of fans in the ground were singing for Levy and ENIC to leave. An hour beforehand, there was Dugal and 20 other lads protesting. It’s weird as fuck that all these people who want change, walk past the people actually making an effort to facilitate that change, without offering g them a hint of support.

But in the ground? Full voice. On here? Rabid.
I was at the Bournemouth game (Gawd help me) and, combined, there was a grand total of 3 minutes of "We want Levy out" from one corner of the South Stand.

It's pathetic as I said.

Those who do protest have my full respect, Deuterz Deuterz also does. He can't protest due to his job and I'm sure there are a small percentage that are the same.

The vast majority though just can't be arsed.
 
Hmm, every thread related to Spurs is the correct thread especially the transfer thread.
I don't disagree. The transfer thread is basically used as a "Daily Spurs Chat" thread. Which is fine, to some extent. The majority don't seem to mind it being used that way and the discussion generally flows around the club/transfers and off on the occasional tangent.

I personally don't mind ENIC discussion going on in the transfer thread, it's certainly related. It's when you get the same people, having the same argument, trying to continually point out why the other side is breaking rules, etc. I can understand why people start submitting foul votes. Not only from either side of the debate, but people just wanting to read transfer discussion. I can't ignore the votes because they are valid really. Even though they seem a bit soft.

What's the solution? (That doesn't involve me having to chase people around continually moving posts to the "correct" thread). One side will always feel they're being hard done by. All I can do is ask that it's kept civil (haha, I know, right?!) and continued in this thread, if it's taking up pages in the transfer thread. Otherwise, I don't really have much choice but to chuck people in the bin when the votes start stacking up.

I just want an easy life, Col. Work with me here, buddy :dierpochhug:
 
Providing the revenue from the events puts money into the actual football team etc etc then it's all good for me, the trouble is we don't seem to see how the events revenue is being spent. Surely that revenue would have meant that ticket prices to watch the actual football team shouldn't have increased.

I don't know what our fans support groups are doing but that's the question I would ask if I were on the fans panel.
The Trust hired their own accountants to look at the books and investigate that very thing.

They found nothing wrong.
The money does go to the football club.

THFC has x amount in revenue every year. That is not broken down into"we got y from source z and spent it on b"

All we know is that it is spent on football related things, whether that's players, wages, women's team or paying the bills for the training ground we don't know.
 
I was at the Bournemouth game (Gawd help me) and, combined, there was a grand total of 3 minutes of "We want Levy out" from one corner of the South Stand.

It's pathetic as I said.

Those who do protest have my full respect, Deuterz Deuterz also does. He can't protest due to his job and I'm sure there are a small percentage that are the same.

The vast majority though just can't be arsed.

Things will turn back to normality soon anyway, vast majority of those who are smashing their keyboards and spamming the Levy out mantra will go quiet when the Ange project really kicks off.

You'll get the odd 1 or 2, lunatics who will turn up every time we lose and do their usual nonsense but give it a few months you'll see less of this no sends plastered all over social media and the forums.
 
Things will turn back to normality soon anyway, vast majority of those who are smashing their keyboards and spamming the Levy out mantra will go quiet when the Ange project really kicks off.

You'll get the odd 1 or 2, lunatics who will turn up every time we lose and do their usual nonsense but give it a few months you'll see less of this no sends plastered all over social media and the forums.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticising those that do protest or sing at games.

I am criticising all the keyboard warriors who are able, but can't be bothered, to do something real to affect change.

Just imagine 50,000 people walking down Tottenham High Street an hour before a game, 60,000 fans singing "We want Levy out"

A stadium with ALL our ST in non-attendance and not having sold on their tickets.

That would send a real message and would have an instant impact on the owners and would definitely enforce change.

Instead we have the same 20 poor sods week in, week out getting no support from the blowhards.
 
Because the football side of the business which is the real bread and butter is falling to the wayside. I really think I could live to see the day where we get relegated.
I'm happy for Levy to focus on the non footballing events and get Munn to oversee the football affairs. The less Levy interferes with football the better, let him do the none footballing events and play with his property portfolios, which he is probably good at, and just get someone more competent to make the football decisions.

Where Levy goes wrong is things like talking about Spurs DNA attacractive attacking football etc, and then hires Paratici who is not only some sort of crook but his philosophy seemed to be defensive, the oposite to what Levy stated.

It seemed that Levy purely just said what he thinks the fans wanted to hear.

Anyway hopefully if we can get our defence sorted out shortly and Ange does well then we're in for a fun season.
 
I don't disagree. The transfer thread is basically used as a "Daily Spurs Chat" thread. Which is fine, to some extent. The majority don't seem to mind it being used that way and the discussion generally flows around the club/transfers and off on the occasional tangent.

I personally don't mind ENIC discussion going on in the transfer thread, it's certainly related. It's when you get the same people have the same argument, trying to continually point out why the other side is breaking rules, etc. I can understand why people start submitting foul votes. Not only from either side of the debate, but people just wanting to read transfer discussion. I can't ignore the votes because they are valid really. Even though they seem a bit soft.

What's the solution? (That doesn't involve me having to chase people around continually moving posts to the "correct" thread). One side will always feel they're being hard done by. All I can do is ask that it's kept civil (haha, I know, right?!) and continued in this thread, if it's taking up pages in the transfer thread. Otherwise, I don't really have much choice but to chuck people in the bin when the votes start stacking up.

I just want an easy life, Col. Work with me here, buddy :dierpochhug:

Fair enough mate and thanks for the detailed explanation.

It just seems strange and a little unfair to me that ENIC Outers are the ones on yellows.

It should also mean that Levy and ENIC shouldn't be praised on the Transfer Thread for securing a player, but we'll see about that.

It's going to be a long summer!

:ange-facepalm2:
 
Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticising those that do protest or sing at games.

I am criticising all the keyboard warriors who are able, but can't be bothered, to do something real to affect change.

Yeah fair play to the 87 people that turn up, the real actual heroes, but the KW's are just shouting into the void of nothingness and aren't actually affecting anything. 😐
 
The Trust hired their own accountants to look at the books and investigate that very thing.

They found nothing wrong.
The money does go to the football club.

THFC has x amount in revenue every year. That is not broken down into"we got y from source z and spent it on b"

All we know is that it is spent on football related things, whether that's players, wages, women's team or paying the bills for the training ground we don't know.
So why did he need to increase the ticket prices in addition to the non-footballing events revenue, do the Trust know that?
 
So why did he need to increase the ticket prices in addition to the non-footballing events revenue, do the Trust know that?

Inflation costs, ask Sainsburys why they need to charge £4 for a bottle of ketchup when it was £2 last year.

Ticket prices were always going to increase, they've been frozen in the last 2 years as well as freezing the St prices this year AND every other Prem team have raised there's so it was bound to happen.

It's a basic economic shift in a capitalist society in afraid.
 
Myself, I'd NEVER yellow card someone for pro Levy views on the summer transfer thread, Col's yellow card is pathetic.
 
So why did he need to increase the ticket prices in addition to the non-footballing events revenue, do the Trust know that?
I've no idea mate, maybe because we've made a loss in the last two set of accounts.🤷

It's something that I tried to discuss in here in length and I still don't have a satisfactory answer.

The amount of money gained is negligible.
The amount of bad PR is huge.
It just doesn't make sense.

The only reason I can see is for increased revenue for the football club, which will be spent by the football club on football related things.
 
Inflation costs, ask Sainsburys why they need to charge £4 for a bottle of ketchup when it was £2 last year.

Ticket prices were always going to increase, they've been frozen in the last 2 years as well as freezing the St prices this year AND every other Prem team have raised there's so it was bound to happen.

It's a basic economic shift in a capitalist society in afraid.
Shut up. 1.5K on a ST is incomparable to a bottle of fucking ketchup

Out tickets are already MILES higher than almost everyone. The baseline is not the same

The net effect of that 20% rise is immaterial
 
I don't disagree. The transfer thread is basically used as a "Daily Spurs Chat" thread. Which is fine, to some extent. The majority don't seem to mind it being used that way and the discussion generally flows around the club/transfers and off on the occasional tangent.

I personally don't mind ENIC discussion going on in the transfer thread, it's certainly related. It's when you get the same people have the same argument, trying to continually point out why the other side is breaking rules, etc. I can understand why people start submitting foul votes. Not only from either side of the debate, but people just wanting to read transfer discussion. I can't ignore the votes because they are valid really. Even though they seem a bit soft.

What's the solution? (That doesn't involve me having to chase people around continually moving posts to the "correct" thread). One side will always feel they're being hard done by. All I can do is ask that it's kept civil (haha, I know, right?!) and continued in this thread, if it's taking up pages in the transfer thread. Otherwise, I don't really have much choice but to chuck people in the bin when the votes start stacking up.

I just want an easy life, Col. Work with me here, buddy :dierpochhug:
Of course ENIC should be a topic of discussion in the transfer thread. They should be in most threads to be honest.

I think it’s the constant nature of the posting that pisses people off. You talk about “soft votes” and I expect I’m guilty of this. Sometimes it’s not voting for someone because they’ve been massively abusive in a single post, but for the fifteenth post in a row saying the same thing.

I expect this also pisses of the Out Mob and expect they make their feelings clear with voting too. I probably vote less than I used to due to ignoring a few these days and since you removed my option of typing the word “cunt” as my reason for voting. 😂

Anyway, ENIC content appropriate anywhere on the forum was my point in support of your post.
 
I wouldn't card someone for anti Levy views either.

Nor would I click the disagree button just because someone has a difference of opinion, but we'll let Col do his thing.


Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticising those that do protest or sing at games.

I am criticising all the keyboard warriors who are able, but can't be bothered, to do something real to affect change.

Just imagine 50,000 people walking down Tottenham High Street an hour before a game, 60,000 fans singing "We want Levy out"

A stadium with ALL our ST in non-attendance and not having sold on their tickets.

That would send a real message and would have an instant impact on the owners and would definitely enforce change.

Instead we have the same 20 poor sods week in, week out getting no support from the blowhards.

And, just like clockwork, I get another kiss from Col.
:harrysmile:

Presumably he doesn't agree that our fan base, joining together as a whole in protest would make a difference.

:harrylol:
 
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