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I get the point but Man Utd’s wage bill dwarves most clubs. They are shit. Liverpools wage bill isn’t that much higher than ours but they are top of the league and much more successful than us. They outperform teams spending more than them comfortably. Our wage bill dwarves Galatasary and Ipswich who have just turned us over.
I know everyone likes to just look at the numbers but there is more to it. Conte was right, the club culture is weak, it’s not about winning trophies. You need to change that, not just pay higher wages. Otherwise you just end up with mercenary players like Utd and that won’t work either.
Liverpool aren’t better than us just because they spend more money. It’s because they spend it better than us and at their club success is measured by trophies. It’s not here.
ENIC and Levy have never done anything different.
It's always been about paying top players the biggest wages.
When Spurs have had a talent at the club, who steps up to become world class or similar while on ENIC's pay roll, what has been the inevitable outcome?
Every top player Spurs have employed under ENIC is under paid on the hostage, long term, contract and eventually sold rather than continually pay them the wage of a high profile talent.
Initially players like Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale were trapped in this way and sold for a ransom.
Levy paid significant wages to Kane, Dele, Son and Llloris to keep the illusion going while the megadome was constructed. If he sells Son, as he did with Kane, he will recover all the speculated wages he paid both with interest.
It is ironic that Lloris, the changing room snitch who wasn't worth the big salary, has been the one to grass Levy up.
And that's where you lost me.
At most, he's totally fine with the idea of winning.
There is a lot of speculation online mainly from Mr O keefe that we are purposely trying to trim the wage bill last few seasons which is preventing us from signing players, maybe just maybe Enic are gearing up for a valuation and a Sale?
Maybe he's just tired of repeating the same things for the 1,000,000th time just to have them ignored again?
More seriously, I agree that Mansour probably isn't some kind of charismatic leader.
But he and the City board have clearly instilled a win-at-all-costs mentality throughout the whole club, bending and breaking rules all over the place and signing world class players.
Whereas we have a Chairman who said in public "all we wanted was entertaining football", awards players for reaching finals, and who is clearly happy with Spurs coming 4-7th in order to keep the stadium repayments steady. It could be a lot worse, but the bubbling unrest amongst fans shows it's a really frustrating place to be.
Until circa 2019 I was fully behind the ENIC strategy, and it has really raised the status of the club in terms of European competitions and revenue.
But since then they're badly plateaued. This isn't a new rebuild, they're ticking things over now. All they now need is someone to pay them the £5-10bn they want.
Maybe he's just tired of repeating the same things for the 1,000,000th time just to have them ignored again?
Option B: Or maybe he's a troll.
He admits himself on a regular basis that he likes going on the wind-up on here so I'll go with option b.
I shouldn’t have said obviously. Because, as I’m fond of pointing out, nobody knows what Levy wants to achieve.
I just find it difficult to not associate owning and leading a football club for two decades to equal wanting them to win. Maybe he doesn’t care, I just find that tough to believe.
I think he'd enjoy winning trophies a fair bit. A nice knees up the exec box and plenty of reflected glory.
But his and the rest of the ownership's actions speak loudest - everything at the club is geared towards steadily building revenue and increasing the asset value, not for winning anything.
Just my opinion on this obviously - and he, you and I can write what we want on here as it’s a public forum. But whilst I didn’t agree with a lot of what was said, there was often some interesting insight. Then the same stuff over and over again. Now, he’s turned into a forum meme, considered a Gooner and a troll by many.Maybe he's just tired of repeating the same things for the 1,000,000th time just to have them ignored again?
Just a shame to see the demise. He’s the forum Dele.
Sure, that’s one side of the coin. The other is that the infrastructure building was geared to allow us to compete. And we are spending more on transfers. Shrinking the wages though. But that’s going to happen if we replace underperforming “stars” with vibrant youth. Not the way I’d have gone to be fair.
I thought the new stadium and additional revenues would have us further on then we are, so it looks like I was wrong there, granted. My patience threshold is maybe longer than some others?
Whilst I’d rather stick with what we have, rather than campaign for the unknown, I’d certainly not be against a new owner if they had what it takes to succeed. I just struggle to see who that is.
I'm fairly settled on the opinion that what we are seeing is what we'll get under ENIC. "Competing" but always flattering to deceive.
The stadium is bringing in more revenue but while fees have been inflated, we've not made any transfers bigger in terms of statement or quality than we were making under, say, Harry Redknapp.
I'm on the cusp of making peace with it, nearly...
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No huge surprise after yesterday. More “In” votes than I’d have expected if anything.
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Are you still crying about how many Levy Ins there are?