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Boltonspur said:
He employs the managers and the “specialists” so the buck surely stops with him? When we were on the cusp of greatness under Poch you can’t suggest that Poch didn’t want new players. He clearly couldn’t get the players he knew he needed so wasn’t about to sign off on shite alternatives scouted by the likes of Hitchen.
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Poch turned down many players and also insisted on signing Lo Celso and Ndombele.
Levy backed Poch's choices.
Boltonspur said:
Granted, when the money became available, he squandered it on shite like teletubby but even then that waster was being lauded as the next big thing. It was too little, too late because when we were riding high, the cash was being held back for the new stadium. That last season at the old ground was probably the best season I’ve had overall as a Spurs fan. The football was brilliant and we were absolutely walking through most teams. That was the time to refresh after we just fell short. That’s what the big teams do. We weren’t all of a sudden going to break the glass ceiling with the same bunch who’d been together a while. A refresh when it would have counted would have set us up nicely instead of panic buying expensive flops after the team and manager burned out. We didn’t strike while the iron was hot and it is still costing us.
The CL run was incredible. But it was also blessed with good fortune until the final. That season, the cracks were huge and starting to crumble.

It could easily have been a win for Levy had he strengthened the squad alongside the infrastructure.

We are lurching from proven winner to proven winner with our managers but the squad needs some serious overhauling to compete at the highest level. We are still in control of top 4 this year, but for proven winners or ambitious footballers top 4 means very little if there isn’t a shiny cup to add to the haul. We need an immediate injection of quality so that players like Kane and managers like Conte aren’t left feeling like they are wasting their time with a club like Spurs and a chairman like Levy. This is the window I’m most interested in for a long time because it will show where the club intends to head.
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You can of course say "the buck stops here" but I don't recall anyone giving Levy loads of praise when we signed Hugo, Walker, Toby, Jan, Dembele, Wanyama, Son etc etc.
Nor when we got to the CL final.

If all the blame is on Levy, then all the credit must go to him too.
You can't have it both ways.

This is not a view I subscribe to by the way.
Football is matter of collective blame or praise.
 
spids said:
So since the new stadium has been open for a whole season then. This is our first full season in the CL with paying spectators. I expect our financial results for last year (with no CL football) to be pretty spectacular), and for us to spend much more moving forwards. The problem is more related to whether Levy will sanction the players Conte wants, or undermine him and sign players he does not want and has no intention of using (e.g. Spence).
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Levy has never signed a player that the manager does want.
E.g. Spence

theathletic.com

Conte on Spence: ‘The club decided to buy him’

Antonio Conte has described Tottenham Hotspur’s new wing-back Djed Spence as a “club” signing. Spurs on Tuesday completed a move for Spence. The 21-year-old has signed a five-year contract with the club that includes an initial fee of £12.5million plus a further £7.5million in add-ons.
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“Spence is an investment of the club,” Conte said. “The club wanted to do it. I said okay, this player is young but he showed he can become a good, important player for us.
 
Belgrano said:
As Conte said, we can't afford to make mistakes in the transfer market. We have a narrow path to success, and it involves getting most of our transfers right.

A lot of damage to the squad was done in the Hitchen years, so it's natural it will take time to recover. But as you say, recruitment success since is still too mixed.

Very clearly, it's been good from Italy (Romero, Kulusevski, Bentancur, Perisic, Udogie). Mixed success from England (Bissouma, Richarlison, Spence). Horrible from other leagues (Emerson, Gil, Sarr). Still can't believe we traded Lamela (a far better player) AND £22million for Gil.

There are some signs Paratici is aware of this, as he's added to the recruitment/scouting team. Which hopefully will mean we can buy successfully from multiple leagues in future. In the meantime, sticking to Serie A has served us well, so I'm much happier seeing links from there than from other leagues.
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Sarr, Spence, and Gil could still be very good signings. Udogie we have no idea if he v El succeed straight away.

Emerson isn’t a bad player, he’s in the wrong role because he was bought for a manager that was charged with bizarrely going against his own system to play 4 at the back because it’s somehow deemed to be more attacking and in line with Spurs “DNA”.
 
stevee said:
Poch turned down many players and also insisted on signing Lo Celso and Ndombele.
Levy backed Poch's choices.

You can of course say "the buck stops here" but I don't recall anyone giving Levy loads of praise when we signed Hugo, Walker, Toby, Jan, Dembele, Wanyama, Son etc etc.
Nor when we got to the CL final.

If all the blame is on Levy, then all the credit must go to him too.
You can't have it both ways.

This is not a view I subscribe to by the way.
Football is matter of collective blame or praise.
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I will praise him when he has overtaken Leicester who he had a 13 year head start on , starting from a far better position as well

Until then 1 Carling Cup in 23 years is not cutting it for me
 
stevee said:
Eh ?

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Look where the last NFL games played in the uk were held . Is Wembley purpose built too ? I know you know how much extra it cost to make the stadium “NFL friendly “ & id presume you know how much the NFL chipped in . Our dealings seem flimsy at best. We built a stadium at our cost to hold NFL & we don’t even get all the games played in London .
 
Furball man said:
Look where the last NFL games played in the uk were held . Is Wembley purpose built too ? I know you know how much extra it cost to make the stadium “NFL friendly “ & id presume you know how much the NFL chipped in . Our dealings seem flimsy at best. We built a stadium at our cost to hold NFL & we don’t even get all the games played in London .
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I think that may be because of the limitations of the number of events allowed by the council.
Not bad planning by Spurs.
 
Belgrano said:
Maybe Sarr in a couple of years. Gil isn't good enough. It's not only physical strength, no part of his game is top and he's already 21, only a year younger than Kulu. Spence has hardly had a kick - if he can't get a game in arguably our weakest position, do you really think he'll make it?
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I’m no football scout so not trying to judge any of them yet. Just remember that both Salah and KDB didn’t make it in their first stint in the Prem.

Spence looks great to me but Conte isn’t playing him for politics. Hope I’m wrong about that but that is the reality of situations between clubs and coaches sometimes.
 
stevee said:
Because it makes zero sense for a manager not to play, what he considers, his best eleven.

In the brief appearances Spence has had he has shown nothing to warrant his promotion to the first team.

You're assumption is based on no evidence whatsoever....... unless you are part of the coaching staff.
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It does if he believes his best 11 after 3 windows needs to include a more “ready now” player then Spence. Decisions aren’t black and white like that. Spence probably makes his 11 marginally better offensively than Emerson and possibly marginally worse defensively. That might not be enough to move the needle into getting him on the pitch if it risks the club using it as an excuse to not get him exactly what he needs.
 
Furball man said:
Look where the last NFL games played in the uk were held . Is Wembley purpose built too ? I know you know how much extra it cost to make the stadium “NFL friendly “ & id presume you know how much the NFL chipped in . Our dealings seem flimsy at best. We built a stadium at our cost to hold NFL & we don’t even get all the games played in London .
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It was actually built as an NFL stadium. Primarily aimed with NFL in mind and with the target of landing a permanent NFL franchise in London.

We were described merely as the Anchor Tennants

(The clubs words, not mine)

Tottenham’s new stadium to offer NFL a ‘permanent home’ in London - SportsPro

Although those pesky little anchor tenants finish up paying for it, of course
 
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Richard Arlison said:
It does if he believes his best 11 after 3 windows needs to include a more “ready now” player then Spence. Decisions aren’t black and white like that. Spence probably makes his 11 marginally better offensively than Emerson and possibly marginally worse defensively. That might not be enough to move the needle into getting him on the pitch if it risks the club using it as an excuse to not get him exactly what he needs.
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There is zero evidence that Spence is better offensively than anyone at the club.
In fact in the one match he played with Kulu, he looked way out of his depth and his positioning was awful.

There's a reason why Middlesbrough didn't want him and why no other team made an offer for him and why we are looking to buy another RWB.

When you're 5th choice RWB at a club that only has two RWBs you know it's not politics, it's because you're not good enough.

Maybe he will become good enough to start but he's way off that at the moment.

Loan him out in January and see how he goes.
 
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