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rusty said:
i would have sacked him earlier in the CL final season, I wasn't a great Poch fan
he did very well getting the players fit and running about, but for me what other tactics do he have ?
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Played some of the best football I have seen at WHL and Wembley. Took players to a level most had not /or will never reach again.

That CL run from a personal point was a cathartic experience after my mum died.

We would never have seen this moment. The next day I was listening to the coaches speak about the night before. I don’t ever want to change that memory.
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Erasing the CL final from our history/my memory may have been a sliding doors moment.
But we will never know.

Brave move to do it though. I respect your balls!!
 
BernardMatthews said:
I think if you ask 500 spurs fans who are / have been season ticket holders whether the phrase “the football ruins a good day out” summarises the Spurs experience a lot will get what you mean.

For a lot of people it is social.

The fact they are marketing it that way - if true - tells you something though.

The more legacy fans who walk this summer the better.

But FOMO of a cup run keeps people going.

A decade of mid table mediocrity and a solitary carabao or FA cup win should be our new benchmark. ECL adventures to towns across Europe we have never heard of. Homegrown players on 25k - 50k a week. Bring in Troy and Dane. We can’t boo them.
Will be treated like one of our average own aka the one and only Harry Winks.

Combine with the best up and coming Asian players on a conveyor belt from South Korea and Japan to keep those tourist £s coming in.



The future could be the same as the past. Purgatory.

“You weren’t really shit. But you weren’t all that great either. Like Tottenham.”
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regards Legacy fans stopping going to matches
i've told the story a few times, a mate was a big Man U fan went to most Home matches for 15+ yrs from Donny to Manchester on the fan's coach then one season he picked and choosed which games to go to and others he sold his ticket, next season he gave up his season ticket just found other things to do with his time, this was in the fergie days so they were winning stuff all the time and seeing good football

watching on TV is not the same but at least Enic would get more of your hard earned
 
rusty said:
and maybe that is when we should have moved on from Poch, if he was demoralised he couldn't be giving his best
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It's actually when the fanbase should have turned on Levy and supported Poch. But they basically did the opposite.
Not one to blow my own trumpet but I called it then.
A crass error of judgement from our fanbase that's massively contributed to what we're suffering today.
 
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BernardMatthews said:
Played some of the best football I have seen at WHL and Wembley. Took players to a level most had not /or will never reach again.

That CL run from a personal point was a cathartic experience after my mum died.

We would never have seen this moment. The next day I was listening to the coaches speak about the night before. I don’t ever want to change that memory.
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Erasing the CL final from our history/my memory may have been a sliding doors moment.
But we will never know.

Brave move to do it though. I respect your balls!!
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the last season at WHL was one of our best seasons (for me) since 81, 87, or the early 70's
no-one could see we would get to the CL final for most of that season
the last few minutes of the Ajax game will live with me forever
but i can still say i was one who was going to sack Poch earlier that season
 
rusty said:
regards Legacy fans stopping going to matches
i've told the story a few times, a mate was a big Man U fan went to most Home matches for 15+ yrs from Donny to Manchester on the fan's coach then one season he picked and choosed which games to go to and others he sold his ticket, next season he gave up his season ticket just found other things to do with his time, this was in the fergie days so they were winning stuff all the time and seeing good football

watching on TV is not the same but at least Enic would get more of your hard earned
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Sounds much like my 'journey'.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
There seemed to be less chants and this week seemed a little subdued to me, although those around me joined in with the Levy Out chants, not heard them do that before.
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When we were 1-0 up the Park Lane end tried to start "we want Levy out", absolutely no response.

When we were 2-1 down there was louder chants.

I mean which one is it? When we're winning the chants don't happen, when we're losing it gets louder.

No wonder the protests don't get anywhere when fans just sit on the fence :wall:
 
rusty said:
the last season at WHL was one of our best seasons (for me) since 81, 87, or the early 70's
no-one could see we would get to the CL final for most of that season
the last few minutes of the Ajax game will live with me forever
but i can still say i was one who was going to sack Poch earlier that season
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Yeah but we did! Find it amazing you would erase that from our history.

Problem wasn’t poch. You just didn’t like him.
 
The club feels tired. It needs new blood.

Levy won’t invest what’s needed, time wise and financially so he’s better off selling up.

He’s given us a training ground and stadium to grow from, he really needs to wipe his mouth and see that as his legacy. There’s no direction, no real strategy there, the club needs a new flow of life running through it and it needs a genuine five year plan.
 
rusty said:
i would have sacked him earlier in the CL final season, I wasn't a great Poch fan
he did very well getting the players fit and running about, but for me what other tactics do he have ?
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Pressing from the front, high tempo football, FB's that attacked down the wings but were also able to strengthen the back when needed. A playmaker in midfield to make things happen. A balanced team that played to it's strengths. Most of all a team that when they scored they were hungry for more, none of this sitting back nonsense, I never want an Italian from Serie A in charge again.
Levy was a grade A moron to sack Poch. All he needed was to be backed in the transfer market and we would have pushed on. But Levy prefers to sack managers every season or so when it actually would have been cheaper to buy players, 18 months without a transfer was the turning point.
 
Top_Spur said:
When we were 1-0 up the Park Lane end tried to start "we want Levy out", absolutely no response.

When we were 2-1 down there was louder chants.

I mean which one is it? When we're winning the chants don't happen, when we're losing it gets louder.

No wonder the protests don't get anywhere when fans just sit on the fence :wall:
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That's everything to do with the perceived bad moment, just like how this thread is active when we lose, or when ENIC out trends on social media during transfer window time etc...

If you're gonna fight for a cause then fight for it, not when it suits you, otherwise the sentiment isn't going to be taken seriously.
 
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Top_Spur said:
When we were 1-0 up the Park Lane end tried to start "we want Levy out", absolutely no response.

When we were 2-1 down there was louder chants.

I mean which one is it? When we're winning the chants don't happen, when we're losing it gets louder.

No wonder the protests don't get anywhere when fans just sit on the fence :wall:
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Like I said in the Sanchez thread, it’s the need for instant gratification. A lack of being able to concentrate on the anything other than what is in front of people right now.

We win, everything is great and everyone goes about their business with a smile. We lose, and this place turns. This thread gets resurrected. The match thread is always longer for defeats than it is for wins. Misery loves company, I suppose.
 
I think yesterdays result when Newcastle had opened the door will crank the chants at games up a bit now. I think protests outside of that will remain a damp squib , partly cos we are apathetic, me included , partly cos some are realists , me included again and know ENIC are going nowhere .

Let’s be honest Stellini was massively at fault yesterday , but who is the clown that thought it a good idea to leave him in charge. We had 3 centre halves against Solanki , staggering . Sack Stellini , either appoint a new manger or give it to Mason until end of the season , but no more of this dire excuse for football

Harry might have to down tools to force his way out , if he can’t wait until he leaves for free . If he does he will still be a legend to me . He has carried Levy in the same way Poch did , well I see nobody left who can carry these clowns when Harry goes

This is going to get very bleak going forward I fear
 
Shadydan said:
That's everything to do with the perceived bad moment, just like how this thread is active when we lose, or when ENIC out trends on social media during transfeew window time etc...

If you're gonna fight for a cause then fight for it, not when it suits you, otherwise the sentiment isn't going to be taken seriously.
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Yep, it's this attitude of 'well I'm gonna sing Levy out when we're losing but when we're winning let's forget about all the issues and Daniel Levy is a genius'.

It makes no sense, either protest and moan and groan properly or try and get behind the team and players because sitting there singing half heartedly about a cause you don't fully believe in is not gonna do anything substantial and only causes a shit and toxic atmosphere in the stadium which is what we are seeing at the moment.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
I think yesterdays result when Newcastle had opened the door will crank the chants at games up a bit now. I think protests outside of that will remain a damp squib , partly cos we are apathetic, me included , partly cos some are realists , me included again and know ENIC are going nowhere .

Let’s be honest Stellini was massively at fault yesterday , but who is the clown that thought it a good idea to leave him in charge. We had 3 centre halves against Solanki , staggering . Sack Stellini , either appoint a new manger or give it to Mason until end of the season , but no more of this dire excuse for football

Harry might have to down tools to force his way out , if he can’t wait until he leaves for free . If he does he will still be a legend to me . He has carried Levy in the same way Poch did , well I see nobody left who can carry these clowns when Harry goes

This is going to get very bleak going forward I fear
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Cannot see why Harry would sign a new contract, the club is going nowhere and there is nothing here for him.
 
AberdeenYid said:
Like I said in the Sanchez thread, it’s the need for instant gratification. A lack of being able to concentrate on the anything other than what is in front of people right now.

We win, everything is great and everyone goes about their business with a smile. We lose, and this place turns. This thread gets resurrected. The match thread is always longer for defeats than it is for wins. Misery loves company, I suppose.
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It is.

Whilst I do understand fans frustration at the moment because I feel the same with current position we are in but this isn't a recent thing.

The moaning and groaning happened in Conte's first game when fans booed at half time against Leeds United. Nothing like getting behind the new manager ffs.

Last week as a prime example there was fans booing in my section after 6 minutes because of some silly mis placed pass or something stupid. It's pathetic.
 
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