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Silvio Dante said:
Come on you're more clever than this.

He wants what will inflate the club's asset value the most, for no investment from ENIC themselves. It's as plain as the nose on our faces. This is "best" for the owners but NOT the fans.
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Just because he is doing things to increase the value of the investment, doesn’t mean that those things can’t also be good for the club.

Both increased investment value and club betterment can be true at once.

Was signing Solanke at £65m or signing Chris Wood for £15m to increase the value of the investment, or was it to try to make the football team better?
 
John Thomas said:
As I read somewhere else.

Conte had us above them just 3 years ago. They were floundering on Thursday nights as we took they're CL spot. We were ranked the wealthier club

They then showed real ambition signing Top class players for Big fees on Big wages.

We sold our best player, signed a creche, and butchered the wage bill to save money and fund a hotel

Then Levy releases that arrogant, patronising statement last week.

Shameful

Levy OUT!


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I know Conte is now a reviled figure in this place, but he is the only manager since Poch who has ever had us looking like the club were about to take the next step. Fourth, CL qualification, playing really well at the time.

Levy’s reaction to a lack of success is a lack of investment, and his reaction to success like that was shown to be a lack of investment. If you are Levy and see Conte succeeding with what he’s got, why spend more?

Currently has Napoli 2nd in the table as well.

Perhaps both our managers from that season will meet in the CL next year as the boss of ‘lesser’ clubs

:contehandshead:
 
AberdeenYid said:
Just because he is doing things to increase the value of the investment, doesn’t mean that those things can’t also be good for the club.

Both increased investment value and club betterment can be true at once.

Was signing Solanke at £65m or signing Chris Wood for £15m to increase the value of the investment, or was it to try to make the football team better?
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Come on mate, enough now. There really is nowhere left to hide what Levy and ENIC have done.
 
AberdeenYid said:
Just because he is doing things to increase the value of the investment, doesn’t mean that those things can’t also be good for the club.

Both increased investment value and club betterment can be true at once.

Was signing Solanke at £65m or signing Chris Wood for £15m to increase the value of the investment, or was it to try to make the football team better?
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Yeah the likes of Solanke are the classic shit the club pulls.

On the surface, ambition. In reality, a relatively low wage player. They’d never spend that fee or more on a player who would also command 150k+ a week.

The Solanke signing btw coming a whole season after we lost the best striker in the world who was on triple the wages.

Johnson, Solanke etc - relative high fees but nice low wage bill and supplement with some children. Call it ambitious squad building and point to transfer fees invested.

ITS A SCAM.
 
Deuterz said:
Yeah the likes of Solanke are the classic shit the club pulls.

On the surface, ambition. In reality, a relatively low wage player. They’d never spend that fee or more on a player who would also command 150k+ a week.

The Solanke signing btw coming a whole season after we lost the best striker in the world who was on triple the wages.

Johnson, Solanke etc - relative high fees but nice low wage bill and supplement with some children. Call it ambitious squad building and point to transfer fees invested.

ITS A SCAM.
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Well exactly. Solanke after selling Kane was a £35m profit plus £5m+ a year wages saved. And for all his reasonable merits, a huge downgrade.
 
Silvio Dante said:
Well exactly. Solanke after selling Kane was a £35m profit plus £5m+ a year wages saved. And for all his reasonable merits, a huge downgrade.
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Watch the Son replacement be pathetic as well.

It’ll be some kid for a relatively high fee, or some domestic mid table player who is decent for 50-60m but commands 1/3 of the wage a Son would and has nowhere near the potential.

Losing two bonafide world class players and replacing them with Brennans or Solanke’s and we’re meant to see this as ambition .. meanwhile the wage bill shrinks ever smaller.
 
Deuterz said:
Yeah the likes of Solanke are the classic shit the club pulls.

On the surface, ambition. In reality, a relatively low wage player. They’d never spend that fee or more on a player who would also command 150k+ a week.

The Solanke signing btw coming a whole season after we lost the best striker in the world who was on triple the wages.

Johnson, Solanke etc - relative high fees but nice low wage bill and supplement with some children. Call it ambitious squad building and point to transfer fees invested.

ITS A SCAM.
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Every Levy "big signing" is a player who seems to him to be a bargain, whom they think they can get on low wages. That's the only circumstance under which he's willing to pay a big transfer fee.

And as everyone but Daniel Levy knows, there's a reason why players like Ndombele or Richarlison or Solanke etc are available at what seems like a bargain rate. Because there's a club anxious to be rid of that player, the player is below the notice of big clubs, or both.

When lesser clubs are anxious to be rid of a player or when big clubs consider that player below their standard, perhaps instead of being in a rush to buy on the cheap, Levy should be asking why that player is good enough for us.
 
kcspurs said:
Every Levy "big signing" is a player who seems to him to be a bargain, whom they think they can get on low wages. That's the only circumstance under which he's willing to pay a big transfer fee.

And as everyone but Daniel Levy knows, there's a reason why players like Ndombele or Richarlison or Solanke etc are available at what seems like a bargain rate. Because there's a club anxious to be rid of that player, the player is below the notice of big clubs, or both.

When lesser clubs are anxious to be rid of a player or when big clubs consider that player below their standard, perhaps instead of being in a rush to buy on the cheap, Levy should be asking why that player is good enough for us.
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Ndombele was probably the only high risk high potential signing we’ve made. Good wage and fee, high ceiling. We sort of had to do it after making a CL final and having not spent a penny for fucking years on the squad.

And somehow the club completely fucked it by deciding to take that plunge on a player with documented attitude issues .. now we will never do it again.
 
harry7 said:
Last time I checked, Brighton didn't reach a league cup Semi and weren't in the QF's of Europa. Our net spend over the last 5 years on transfers is HALF A BILLION. Brighton is 70m. We've spend almost double what Liverpool have.

Problem we have is that we cannot attract world class players. There are 10 clubs+ that they would prefer to play for; and without Champions League; we are not shopping in the same market as the top clubs - and therefore the fans need to temper their expectations. Spurs are NOT a big club with regards to achievements and reputation. They are a small club, that got lucky that Bale & Kane were world class players.

Smart transfer business means finding more Dele, Eriksen type deals; and investing in the academy to provide a steady flow of quality. Not spending money on players with big reputations or has-beens (.e.g. Felix, Coutinho, Sancho), and certainly not spending huge money on mid level journey men like Richarlison and Solanke.
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When we were in a position where we could attract the right players 5 or 6 years ago , he chose not to

Any way you look at it , it’s neglect . We had the platform to push on , Levy went into hibernation regarding the football team
 
To be clear for those that can’t read….

I didn’t say Solanke was a statement signing.

I didn’t say he was a replacement for Kane.

I said he was a sign that the owner’s want what’s best for the football club (secondary to what’s best for the investment). If they didn’t care an iota about the club, they’d sign perfectly serviceable players, who’d keep us in the division, for a fraction of the cost of Solanke, Richarlison, TND, etc. But they don’t. They spend money to try to make the football club better.

Not seeing this is disingenuous, agenda driven, or downright stupid.
 
AberdeenYid said:
To be clear for those that can’t read….

I didn’t say Solanke was a statement signing.

I didn’t say he was a replacement for Kane.

I said he was a sign that the owner’s want what’s best for the football club (secondary to what’s best for the investment). If they didn’t care an iota about the club, they’d sign perfectly serviceable players, who’d keep us in the division, for a fraction of the cost of Solanke, Richarlison, TND, etc. But they don’t. They spend money to try to make the football club better.

Not seeing this is disingenuous, agenda driven, or downright stupid.
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But you do have to ask the question Why is no one else going for these players ? Better scouting ? We do waste a hell of a lot of money on dross , take the Werner deal for example , I’d say the majority on here didn’t want him back .

I’ve no idea & I can’t be arsed to look but our successful signing to bobbins is very disproportionate
 
Furball man said:
But you do have to ask the question Why is no one else going for these players ? Better scouting ? We do waste a hell of a lot of money on dross , take the Werner deal for example , I’d say the majority on here didn’t want him back .

I’ve no idea & I can’t be arsed to look but our successful signing to bobbins is very disproportionate
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I honestly don’t know who else was in for Solanke. Maybe nobody. Doubt anyone who could afford the fee would want or need the player. Doesn’t derail my point though. Yes, our scouting has been, on the whole, shite. But do you honestly believe that the ownership aren’t trying to improve the football side? By spending hundreds of millions on players?
 
AberdeenYid said:
To be clear for those that can’t read….

I didn’t say Solanke was a statement signing.

I didn’t say he was a replacement for Kane.

I said he was a sign that the owner’s want what’s best for the football club (secondary to what’s best for the investment). If they didn’t care an iota about the club, they’d sign perfectly serviceable players, who’d keep us in the division, for a fraction of the cost of Solanke, Richarlison, TND, etc. But they don’t. They spend money to try to make the football club better.

Not seeing this is disingenuous, agenda driven, or downright stupid.
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What's best for the club is to win the Premier League.

Wasn't it Brentford that we had to fight off to sign Solanke? IMO he's a mid table player, But you're right the owners probably think that with Solanke and Richarlison we're the envy of the league.

They have to spend a certain amount to keep the supporters content so we're getting players like those two to prove the club is serious about winning. I find it laughable.
 
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