You and the Levy Loving brigade would know all about that mate. No wonder she left you…
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You and the Levy Loving brigade would know all about that mate. No wonder she left you…
Please carry on.
I love reading all this type of stuff about twats, cum stains and cnuts.
Levy should deliver his end of season message, in just his underpants, on the pitch, before the Brighton game.
ENIC's tenure represents half the time I have been supporting THFC since 1977.
During the 24 years before ENIC; I saw Spurs win 5 major trophies and in the conversation for 3 title challenges.
Does that help you understand the whinging?
All but 2 of those occurred in the first 7 years of your supporting Spurs.
I agree that the lack of trophies has been frustrating, disappointing, and unacceptable. But too often some, including you just now, conflate the Spurs of 40 years ago with the Spurs ENIC bought and act like they're aberrantly below standard. In between the last real period of success and ENIC was 15 years of Scholar nearly bankrupting the club, mostly very shit football, an FA Cup and a League Cup that for any of our "peer" clubs would be more of a footnote than a significant event.
Almost all of the clubs' success came in the golden quarter 60-85. The post I previously made below lays things out fairly comprehensively.
Anyway, not really a defense of ENIC - just a clarification that the numbers are different than often implied. If Ange had done a cup double this season, he'd have become our 3rd most successful manager of all time. Some people act as if our list of honours rivaled Liverpool and United before Levy became chairman. It's just simply not accurate.
You might find official figures released by UEFA a bit more trustworthy, considering some match day ticket prices at The Woolwich are even higher than ours we don't take £2 mil more on a matchday.
Premier League ticket price rises: How much do clubs make from fans?
A new financial report breaks down who makes the most from tickets and how the cost of running a football club is rising.
www.bbc.co.uk
I notice the Tottenham Hotspur Hotel accounts have been filed - 6 weeks late, no doubt hoping they would slip under the radar.
Over £10m spent on the hotel (to June 2024, no doubt much higher now) - with no external investment. The money has come from the football club - related party transactions in the accounts. So when Levy says that we cannot spend what we don't have, he obviously doesn't mean building hotels.
Without the external investment will he borrow to complete the build (more financial covenants - lower salaries).
Over £10m spent on the hotel (to June 2024, no doubt much higher now) - with no external investment. The money has come from the football club - related party transactions in the accounts. So when Levy says that we cannot spend what we don't have, he obviously doesn't mean building hotels.
Without the external investment will he borrow to complete the build (more financial covenants - lower salaries).
He’ll just keep building things… with a forever promise of, “jam tomorrow”.
"Spending within your needs" doesn't work.
Because the football governing bodies let clubs cheat, and don't have any morals about it.
If we want our football back, we must put a stop to all the cheating. Starting at the very top on who's running FIFA and UEFA, and all the way down to the players.
I'm just so fucking sick and tired about modern football
EvErY PEnnY tHe CLUb MAkEs iS inVeSTeD bACk inTO tHe FOOtbaLL
Sadly that’ll never happen, buddy . It’s looking more like join the cabal or get left behind
Yep! Basically looking far ahead in to the future so you never have to accept your current failings! Just repeat this message & suddenly it’s 25 years later & we are in the worst state we have ever been under them. Then throw out more statements about long term plans & the future. All whilst making yourself very rich indeed!
I know they are useless but surely there has to come a point when the Premier League needs to get involved in things like this.
The premier league will not look into companies attached to a football club . Doing that would open a huge can of worms that will probably also put them in a bad light . Spurs have so many companies connected to Spurs & some of them do not have have external audits so they’d give the Premier league nothing . It’s how businesses work
Added to that companies who have shares in Newcastle also have shares in Chelsea , think it’s Blue Water but I may be wrong ., it’s a n interconnected spiderweb of nepotism .
The premier League are happy to be ignorant, it makes their life easier
Easily offset by the reduced wage to revenue %. We have to play the long term game and invest for the future, not just trying to win a few games of football next season / buying more players
It’s investment. Nobody doubts we’ll make the money back on the hotel.
10m is a lot for you or me but very little for a club our size. It makes perfect sense that some of our money is spent on safer investments.
Yeah that’s fair enough. To me the owners & chairman of any club are the main reason teams regularly win things & challenge. Ours are the reason we don’t. So I just think the endless debates about team selection, the manager, formation etc it’s all pretty pointless if you got shit owners & chairman who have no ambition & skill to achieve winning on the pitch.
It’s like having a terrible business owner running the place in to the ground. Whilst you then debate & agonise over whether to have the cleaners in on Thursdays or Fridays.
Obviously the manager & players can make a difference but there is a limit to how much without a good chairman & owners. This team isn’t title winners no matter who is in charge.
I agree about the ESL too. & if levy & ENIC had their way we would be in it. & you would stop supporting this club which is a big deal & all down to them. So I can understand others feeling angry over this. & this would mean you aren’t here because of the ownership group.
I have fallen out of love with the game over the last few years anyway. I don’t like modern football & the way it’s headed. So I am already quite apathetic to it all. England have come close to winning things recently which would have been nice. But nothing like how I would have felt if we had won it in the 90s or early 2000s. I understand you being apathetic to the owners etc but to be fair that goes for this whole forum. We have no say in any of it but there are threads on team line ups , who should be manager etc. it’s all out of our hands. The greed in modern football has also made me lose my love & respect of the game. I feel very far removed from it now. Not a working man’s game anymore. Probably another reason I don’t like dodgy greedy Lewis, levy & ENIC. Milking & ripping off fans whilst improving their wealth. Levy getting a pay rise after a poor season. I could go on & on about examples of their greed but I will spare you!
Also even though I am apathetic to ENIC/levy & lots of other bigger bad things that go in the world. I do like to speak up against them. Not in an emotion angry way. More just pointing it out & hoping more people become aware of evil & greed etc. But I am an armchair protestor as I can’t be bothered joining a movement against a baddie. Or travelling far for a protest. I certainly wouldn’t put a football owner/chairman at the top of my list. It would be bigger evil & greed that goes on in the world. I am too apathetic & lazy to do anything about it. But I do like to tell people my opinion on these matters if it comes up in conversation. I don’t mean I go around lecturing people about different injustices ha. I will make my point in just a few emotionless sentences!
So I do hold my hat off to people who join movements & protest & try to keep the word of their cause out there. Rather than keep quiet because nothing will change. But I do understand this method as I am sort of in between both ways of doing things. But I agree levy & ENIC don’t care what we think & will do what they want. But equally I am pleased people are calling them out & protesting etc. Even though it’s probably all in vain. I am glad people are making others aware of their incompetence & greed. It’s pretty much now a given that your average football fan on the street knows levy & ENIC are crap & a bit of a joke really. They are losers & known for not winning things. & our rivals love that we are stuck with ENIC & levy. & other fans wouldn’t want levy & ENIC anywhere near their club! I feel a bit better about that as they got away with it for so long. & as for Lewis, he got exposed in court for the shady dodgy criminal he is! It wasn’t that long ago the ENIC supporters were saying how morale he is & above other chairman. So I am pleased Lewis, levy & ENIC have been publicly exposed & shamed now. It’s just common knowledge. Which in part might be down to people moaning about them & protesting etc.
Anyway, it’s the big one tomorrow! Hopefully everyone will be happy tomorrow night!
Exactly.
People go on about other clubs cheating. Cheating? Or owners prepared to bend the rules, input their own wealth as a means to win and be successful.
Prioritising football club funds to expand your property empire while butchering the player wage bill to unrivalled proportion of income....unseen anywhere in Europe.
That's what I'd call cheating. Cheating your own fans