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Ange in or Ange out, I don’t know. I don’t believe we won the EL in spite of him but I wholeheartedly believe we won it in spite of Levy and Enic. I’m fairly certain that reading between the lines of ‘people within the club didn’t agree we should focus on the EL’ means that Levy and co were dead against it.
 
How is this one going by the way.

We can't and won't win anything under ENIC/Levy?

Seems a touch silent for whatever reason, or is it now we don't win as much as we should....


Nope, Levy gets his flowers.

But he has his CL Final moment all over again.

That time he didn’t invest in the squad and and we didn’t capitalize.

This time he has an opportunity to put that right.

Go and sign the level of players in their prime that everyone says that he won’t/can’t and there’s no sticks left to beat Levy with
 
Yes, mounts up to the amount quoted by Forbes !
Ok. I’m just going on Chelsea being sold for £2.5b, plus another £1.75b of guaranteed investment. And that was an asset in a fire sale. That didn’t have the stadium, training ground, external events, etc that we do. So I took all that into account and I’d be surprised if we are worth £100m less than the basic amount Chelsea went for.
 
Ok. I’m just going on Chelsea being sold for £2.5b, plus another £1.75b of guaranteed investment. And that was an asset in a fire sale. That didn’t have the stadium, training ground, external events, etc that we do. So I took all that into account and I’d be surprised if we are worth £100m less than the basic amount Chelsea went for.
Fair point, but it does seem Chelsea were slightly overpaid for by Boehly et al. You're right when you said the club is worth what someone will pay for it.
 
Ok. I’m just going on Chelsea being sold for £2.5b, plus another £1.75b of guaranteed investment. And that was an asset in a fire sale. That didn’t have the stadium, training ground, external events, etc that we do. So I took all that into account and I’d be surprised if we are worth £100m less than the basic amount Chelsea went for.
Very different scenarios
First, the Chavs have been far more successful and consistent winners on the field. That helped their brand growth and worldwide revenue generation off the field and when working out the value of something you have to take into account forecast revenue and growth over the period of ownership. It's only in the last year or so that we have caught up off the field with the new stadium enabling us to reach similar revenue to the other big six. If we could have continued success on the field then we could and should surpass them in terms of revenue.
Second, Roman was unable to negotiate a profit from the sale of the club. The British Govt. have frozen the proceeds of the sale into a UK bank account only to be used to support humanitarian causes in Ukraine. Therefore, it's likely the asking price of £2.5b is probably about right for them but was accepted to get the deal done quickly. The 1.75b investment is not guaranteed. It's planned investment.
All in all, our off field revenue streams help us but not having regular Champions League football hurts us. Nobody has guaranteed Champions League but the big six should be in it 4 times out of 5. You can't really say that about us right now. I think somewhere between 2.5b and 3b will be our spot but if we can become Champions League regulars then 3b+ is not off the table. You have to remember, their is a sizeable debt waiting for any new owners.
 
Ange in or Ange out, I don’t know. I don’t believe we won the EL in spite of him but I wholeheartedly believe we won it in spite of Levy and Enic. I’m fairly certain that reading between the lines of ‘people within the club didn’t agree we should focus on the EL’ means that Levy and co were dead against it.

I'd sooner suggest that was Munn, Cullen or someone like that.

Levy's been obsessed with two things over the years: winning a trophy and getting CL football. There was no other way of doing that in January, so I can't see why he would have been against it tbh.
I say Cullen because even in the amazon doc it seemed like she didn't understand the football side
 
This week has shown the world that Spurs are a really massive club, much bigger than most thought. Not many clubs could have taken over Bilbao’s stadium and city, whilst also filling the best stadium in the world with fans at a watch-a-long. And then line the streets with 150k fans for a parade. This really feels like ‘a giant awakes’ and I really hope Levy realises what he has, and what an opportunity he has. We can go up so many levels if he takes off the handbrake and tries to actually win the league. Add 3-4 peak year / top drawer players to the current squad and we’ll transform. The likes of Villa and Newcastle can only dream of being as big as us.
 
If we could have continued success on the field then we could and should surpass them in terms of revenue.
Small point , we have overtaken Chelski in revenue, overtook them in 22-23 season , in the most recent Deloitte money league our revenue was circa 70 million euros higher. This season will be closer as they will earn higher PL prize money but our revenue from winning the Europa League which is approx double what the Conference League is worth and the 55,000 plus crowds for the home EL matches should keep us in front of them. I would like to see neither Chelski or Villa getting CL next season both will suffer financially without that revenue due to their very high wage bills.

PS If Chelski didn't keep falsifying their accounts our true revenue lead over them would probably be even higher , doesn't mean Levy is going to go big in the transfer market though.
 
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Small point , we have overtaken Chelski in revenue, overtook them in 22-23 season , in the most recent Deloitte money league our revenue was circa 70 million euros higher. This season will be closer as they will earn higher PL prize money but our revenue from winning the Europa League which is approx double what the Conference League is worth and the 55,000 plus crowds for the home EL matches should keep us in front of them. I would like to see neither Chelski or Villa getting CL next season both will suffer financially without that revenue due to their very high wage bills.

PS If Chelski didn't keep falsifying their accounts our true revenue lead over them would probably be even higher , doesn't mean Levy is going to go big in the transfer market though.
Agree - they are a pack of cards… been propped up by wealthy wieners for 25 years. The money tap stops and they get relegated
 
I wonder how much money the club has made since Wednesday night. Online sales, club shop yesterday, new fans etc. Hopefully a ton, and Levy realises that winning stuff is also great financially for the club. Get that cheque book out, Daniel.
 
Much as I think too many people have gone overboard on Levy/ENIC at times and come up with a lot of hogwash, I also think we have to see a statement signing or 2 this summer.

Let's see them seek to make the most of unlikely fortune.

But the debate about not being able to win has been silenced and that is a good thing.

You just know had we lost on Wednesday, it would have been Levy's fault. Madness.
 
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