The FA Cup used to be considered 'Our' Trophy. We haven't even made a final since the turn of the century, let alone won it. That's absolutely shameful for a club of our size and with our history in the competition.
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For Levy, winning the league is getting the hotel built, winning the Champions League is getting the flats done.
Over £10m spent on the hotel as per the submitted late June 2024 accounts (presumably much higher now) with the money coming from the football club as shown in the accounts.
It's an expensive business getting planning permission for the flats. There has been no external investment yet so that will be more money diverted from the football club.
"Every penny we earn goes back into the football". Absolutely Daniel, of course it does.
In terms of prestige it was not on a par with winning the league , but it was close in the era we regularly won it . I would love to win it again , even the diminished version it now is
You attract players by paying wages.
United missed out on CL and finished bottom 5. Not exactly struggling to attract players so far.
It isn't relating to 2023 though, as it is talking about Berrado joining Man Utd which only happened recently. The £3m bonus is in the 2023 report, which was a deferred (due to COVID stuff I think) one-off bonus from relating to the stadium completion. The reports are out of sync with the dates they relate to and when they are made available.
Regardless, the point remains that whilst he has been 'highest paid director' on occasion, it isn't a regular or current thing. That link has references to the data sources, and other clubs aren't as transparent in their reports to make it easy to find out otherwise. I can see from the Man Utd one that about 4 or 5 different Glazers take home a collective £7m though, which must be fun for united fans.
They didn't - Wolves did, from whom they've signed a CF. No one else so far. Hardly the galaticos
Brazil international btw and one of the PL top players last season.
Looks like Mbeumo next
You think other bottom 5/6 clubs that don’t pay the same wages could attract Cunha and Mbeumo?
Obviously you don’t
It's a tad confusing then because they seemed to have added his salary which must be 2024 to the rest of the data titled Premier League Football Clubs Staff Salaries 2022/23.
There seems to be all sorts of conflicting data out there like this I saw about Levy's salary.
The accounts showed the club’s highest-paid director, which is Levy, saw his annual salary fall by around £2.9million from £6.6million to £3.7million in 2023-24.
Daniel Levy takes jaw-dropping Tottenham pay cut
Football Insider has learned Daniel Levy has taken a seven-figure pay cut after a Tottenham update has emerged.
It's difficult to know what to believe but Levy is certainly up there with the big boys whilst, Spurs aren't when it comes to players wages.
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Richi is a Brazilian international too. I don't think the bar is as high as it once was.
Regardless, choosing Man Utd is a very twisted argument as they are a unique case. The point is that we as a club, would not be able to compete with Champions League teams if we dwelled in the bottom half but won a domestic cup regularly.
Winning the FA Cup gets you in the EL
Again, not a pay cut - they are referring to the one-off bonus as if it was a pay rise. The absence of it in other years isn't a "pay cut", but it is pretty much that one year.
You can't particularly compare the roles equally though. We have a chairman that has quite an active role in the company who does, effectively, the work of what several others do at other clubs, whilst also being a defacto 'owner' rather than just an employee. In addition, the club have been very straight and transparent with the numbers, whereas other clubs have an air of obscurity - including those working at City.
To bring it back to the point in hand, again, the point remains that he isn't "the highest paid director" as some kind of throwaway automatically qualified point.
The problem with saying we don't 'come close' with paying wages is that people compare overall reported wage bills. It has been done (and selectively ignored) in here several times: Management - Levy / ENIC
The whole "overall wage bill" is impacted heavily by squad size and tenure. It isn't particularly consistent with ability or importance. So, as a result, Chelsea with 40-odd senior players will clearly have a salary bill of at least 1.5x that of a much more normal 24-man squad.
What impact did it have on Burnley when they were in the EL?
I thought you were talking about us specifically because United are a unique case?
Apart from some piling work to reinforce the foundations done last August, I am not aware of any construction company being announced to start the actual build so why would that figure have increased, if the build was in progress the Skyscrapercity forum would be talking about it but they are not.
The Club construction spend on the planned Hotel next to the stadium in the financial period was circa £3m. The Hotel will need to be part of a significantly larger development with other external stakeholders. This is a long-term project which would be nonrecourse to the Club and be part of the redevelopment of High Road West as well as other sites.
Financial results - year ended 30 June 2024
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I'm saying that for "normal" clubs - that is, outside of Man Utd (who are ran awfully but also still dine out off legacy), Chelsea and City (for obvious financial irregularites) - it isn't how things work.
- A club that qualifies for the EL is not somehow in a better position, financially. Lots of clubs have qualified for the EL and then struggle in the league, because an increase in squad size, depth, and quality is required
- Clubs that finish mid-to-lower table but get EL don't suddenly attract top players
- Winning an FA Cup every now-and-again is not proven to make any enhancement to the fortunes of a club. Spurs last won it in 91 and slid backwards. They won it twice in the early 80s and still didn't get anywhere near a league title push.
- Leicester won it a few seasons back and it did nothing for them. Wigan won it and it did nothing for them.
Bringing up Man United is a strawman, because they aren't competing with Liverpool, City, or Woolwich for players - they are attracting mercenaries who wouldn't get into the CL sides.
Again, to reiterate: people have no place criticising the club's ambition if they are happy to win a domestic cup and finish mid-to-lower table. It is not a formula for getting top-level players or competing for top-level trophies. Not even the EL really does that - how many times have Sevilla won the EL in the last 10-15 years and yet have struggled to improve in the league and the level of players they attract
Winning trophies is not a formula for winning trophies… ok gotcha
Not sure what you think you're adding here by being obtuse. Winning the domestic trophies is not a formula for winning top-level trophies (PL, CL etc).
Kane wouldn't have stayed for FA Cups or League Cups.
Yes they are.... players worth having anyway. Clearly. They are a complete shit show on the pitch
Kane would have stayed for top wages and regular domestic trophies. 1000%
And let’s be real, our model of trying to finish top 4 hasn’t been a formula for winning the PL and CL either.