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The "Little Levy Out club"

Like 85% of this forum who voted OUT

or THIS!

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How fucking patronising of our own supporters can you get you fucking troll

The new stadium doesn't exist.

Must be AI
 
The league table doesn't lie after 38 games.

When Spurs won the U.E.F.A. Cup in 84 they knocked out a Feyenoord team containing Johan Cruyff and Bayern Munich along the way.

We beat Bodo Glimt and AZ this time.

I think you're missing the conversation trail. I was highlighting a hypocrisy, which I suspect you've also nibble on.


Interesting how everyone agrees that winning trophies isn't actually a gauge for success or improvement when you invert the conversation from "ENIC/Levy haven't improved the club because trophies"
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I'd assume you don't mean me, as I've been on here longer than you and have over 10,000 more posts.

It's a weird thing but some of us support the club and are generally pleased to not be the next big fat Amstrad failure. We've just won a European cup (something that the woolwich scum have never said) so in the grand scheme of things are quite happy to be like "hey, I love my team and I'm proud of how the club has managed to build itself back up again".

The real cult is people like yourself and John Thomas, who are just here to attack every little thing about the club. That's what our rival fans do. You shouldn't be shit-talking the successes of the last 2 decades and declaring that's somehow the high ground, or else you'll just blend in with the claret and red.
I support the club
I just hate the ownership and believe levy is in it for financial gain and will not go that extra mile to make Tottenham Hotspur FC consistently fight for trophies. Hence signing kids and charging more for match tickets than any other club for mediocre football. 17th proves this. Levy said the stadium was going to be a game changer and we would challenge the best teams. We were extremely lucky in winning the Europa league - played 1 maybe 2 half decent teams the rest being pretty ordinary. Yes I was over the moon we won and after all the shit we've been put through we deserved to be lucky. Qualifying for the champions league has given Levy the chance to get some quality signings but, its the usual dithering. Nothing ever changes with this ownership
 
Better team then or now debate , the team under Poch weren't always that great, reckon the current squad would have beaten Gent who were on the same level as many of the teams in this years Europa.
We win a cup and some are just running it down probably because they can't use the "we will never win anything with Levy in charge" again.

 
I support the club
I just hate the ownership and believe levy is in it for financial gain and will not go that extra mile to make Tottenham Hotspur FC consistently fight for trophies. Hence signing kids and charging more for match tickets than any other club for mediocre football. 17th proves this. Levy said the stadium was going to be a game changer and we would challenge the best teams. We were extremely lucky in winning the Europa league - played 1 maybe 2 half decent teams the rest being pretty ordinary. Yes I was over the moon we won and after all the shit we've been put through we deserved to be lucky. Qualifying for the champions league has given Levy the chance to get some quality signings but, its the usual dithering. Nothing ever changes with this ownership

Another poster that doesnt know how proof works, or luck, or clearly football.

Jesus christ.
 
Better team then or now debate , the team under Poch weren't always that great, reckon the current squad would have beaten Gent who were on the same level as many of the teams in this years Europa.
We win a cup and some are just running it down probably because they can't use the "we will never win anything with Levy in charge" again.

LOL :roflmao: at you cherry picking one match to give substance to your garbage. Even you must see how utterly facile this is.
Do you think Pochs team would have lost 22 games and finished 4th from bottom?
This team has regressed hideously since Poch. You know it, every Spurs fan knows it. Why even try to pretend otherwise
 
LOL :roflmao: at you cherry picking one match to give substance to your garbage. Even you must see how utterly facile this is.
Do you think Pochs team would have lost 22 games and finished 4th from bottom?
This team has regressed hideously since Poch. You know it, every Spurs fan knows it. Why even try to pretend otherwise

That one match happens to be pretty significant though don't you think?

That match was a difference in staying in a comp where we could realistically pick up a trophy, something that you continually used to criticise the club and the chairman for - I say used to because your narrative has somewhat shifted since May 21.

So what's more important now, trophies or top 4 finishes...?
 
"Liverpool win the title and then spend £200m backing the manager…Spurs win the UEL and:- renew Ben Davies’ contract…- look to re-sign KWP on a free…- buys a £5m CB that absolutely nobody has ever heard of…- submits £250m planning application for new hotel complex…"

Anyone figured this out yet?
 
LOL :roflmao: at you cherry picking one match to give substance to your garbage. Even you must see how utterly facile this is.
Do you think Pochs team would have lost 22 games and finished 4th from bottom?
This team has regressed hideously since Poch. You know it, every Spurs fan knows it. Why even try to pretend otherwise
If Poch had used the same tactics as Ange he may have lost that many, Poch did manage 13 defeats 2018/19 season but fortunately won 23 and drew 2 .
Fact is we have won a trophy and Levy is going nowhere so all the moaning is futile , splinter groups like Change for Tottenham have little support from the vast majority of fans including THST and their last march died from lack of interest.
 
LOL :roflmao: at you cherry picking one match to give substance to your garbage. Even you must see how utterly facile this is.
Do you think Pochs team would have lost 22 games and finished 4th from bottom?
This team has regressed hideously since Poch. You know it, every Spurs fan knows it. Why even try to pretend otherwise
And that's exactly why I've been making what I consider to be a very valid point regarding the new stadium being a ''game changer'' in terms of being able to compete with the best teams, when in fact the team in the few years prior to the old stadium closing was better than the team now, some six years since the new stadium opened.

Not only that but in the new stadium era so far the longest surviving manager has lasted two seasons, a record held by the guy that Levy just sacked for finishing 17th in the Premier League with what I think I recall reading 22 loses is the most loses a team has suffered without being relegated in a 38 game season. The 38 game season started in 1995/96 season according to my search engine, so about 30 years.

That's right folks, the most Premier League loses by a non relegated team in 30 years .
 
"Liverpool win the title and then spend £200m backing the manager…Spurs win the UEL and:- renew Ben Davies’ contract…- look to re-sign KWP on a free…- buys a £5m CB that absolutely nobody has ever heard of…- submits £250m planning application for new hotel complex…"

Anyone figured this out yet?

No, you are the first to make this point.
 
That one match happens to be pretty significant though don't you think?

That match was a difference in staying in a comp where we could realistically pick up a trophy, something that you continually used to criticise the club and the chairman for - I say used to because your narrative has somewhat shifted since May 21.

So what's more important now, trophies or top 4 finishes...?
Which players do you think from last season's team are better than the players in the same or similar positions in the few seasons when Pochettino's team was at it's best prior to when the old stadium closed?
 
Not sure why people put so much emphasis on what someone has said in football and later they might regret the words they used but people seem to go on about it forever
"stadium is a game changer" "anchor tenant" "it's a NFL stadium" ,

Remember this one at another club

 
Not many really however one team is going to down in history whilst the other one...
Okay but the standard of the team's players has dropped as per last season with the new stadium 6 years open. I'm not diminishing the Europa League final win, well done to the team for that, but as I said yesterday, it's a more difficult task to try and beat a very good Liverpool team in the 2019 Champions League final and finish forth in the Premier League, than it is to beat the worst Manchester United team in living memory and finish 17th in the Premier League.

I don't see any improvement in the team since the new stadium was opened, a couple of fairly good seasons when the team qualified for European competition, and a Europa League Cup win under the new format in the season when the guy managing the team got the sack for finishing 17th in Premier League.

The managers keep getting the sack and the team keeps having to get rebuilt.
 
Okay but the standard of the team's players has dropped as per last season with the new stadium 6 years open. I'm not diminishing the Europa League final win, well done to the team for that, but as I said yesterday, it's a more difficult task to try and beat a very good Liverpool team in the 2019 Champions League final and finish forth in the Premier League, than it is to beat the worst Manchester United team in living memory and finish 17th in the Premier League.

I don't see any improvement in the team since the new stadium was opened, a couple of fairly good seasons when the team qualified for European competition, and a Europa League Cup win under the new format in the season when the guy managing the team got the sack for finishing 17th in Premier League.

The managers keep getting the sack and the team keeps having to get rebuilt.

No-one cares or will care about that when looking in the history books.

All these mental gymnastics diminishing our success is pretty pathetic, especially for a club who have been trophy starved all this time. No-one should really give a fuck how we won unless you have an agenda or something.
 
No-one cares or will care about that when looking in the history books.

All these mental gymnastics diminishing our success is pretty pathetic, especially for a club who have been trophy starved all this time. No-one should really give a fuck how we won unless you have an agenda or something.
Well it papers over the cracks in the situation for sure.

It reminds me of that season when Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup and got relegated, I suppose they could also focus on the trophy instead of their league position and general standard of play.
 
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