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Well it papers over the cracks in the situation for sure.

It reminds me of that season when Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup and got relegated, I suppose they could also focus on the trophy instead of their league position and general standard of play.

That's quite the reminder seeing as one team got relegated and the other team didn't.
 
The Poch team is history now and people still talk about it so that's not true is it.

Yes as perennial losers and not being able to get over the line.

The only people who still talk about this team favorably are misty eyed Spurs fans who can't let go of the past, the rest of the footballing world doesn't really give a toss about it and will not do in years to come, let's be real.
 
Not sure why people put so much emphasis on what someone has said in football and later they might regret the words they used but people seem to go on about it forever
"stadium is a game changer" "anchor tenant" "it's a NFL stadium" ,

Remember this one at another club

Thanks for the words of advice Daniel I had almost forgotten what a cvnt you were
Cheers
 
Sure but two clubs which had awful league seasons whilst winning a trophy all the same. In fact last season was a record for Spurs, the first team not to get relegated with 22 loses in 30 years of Premier League matches of 38.

Yeah I agree but like I said, no-one's gonna care about that.

They're not gonna be putting pictures up of the league table in the trophy cabinet room.

These menial things only matter to fans who have a clear agenda, in reality no-one gives a toss about last season and the main catalyst as to why it happened is no longer at the club anyway.
 
Yes as perennial losers and not being able to get over the line.

The only people who still talk about this team favorably are misty eyed Spurs fans who can't let go of the past, the rest of the footballing world doesn't really give a toss about it and will not do in years to come, let's be real.
How often does the footballing world discuss the 1984 Europa Cup final win?

I hardly ever heard it mentioned until this season apart from misty eyed Spurs fans.
 
How often does the footballing world discuss the 1984 Europa Cup final win?

I hardly ever heard it mentioned until this season apart from misty eyed Spurs fans.

Well they wouldn't stop mentioning it in the lead up to the final ;)

Our 1984 win is confined to the history history, as is our constant bottling and our nearly moments, what do you think gets looked on more favourably and talked up more?
 
Well they wouldn't stop mentioning it in the lead up to the final ;)

Our 1984 win is confined to the history history, as is our constant bottling and our nearly moments, what do you think gets looked on more favourably and talked up more?
I think it all gets forgotten about apart from misty eyed supporters until the team are in the closing stages of the competition again at some point in the future.

I also think the next time we have a player akin to Harry Kane, Kane will be remembered regardless if that player wins a trophy with the team or not.

When Postecoglou's name is mentioned when the Europa League win is recalled in the future, that only buffoons will ignore the fact he got the sack the same season because the team had been utter shit.
 
Not many really however one team is going to down in history whilst the other one...

Yeah. For losing the most league games in a season for like over 100 years

And losing more games than any other and not be relegated in Premier League history

And, of course, winning a competition the top 4 or 5 teams in each major league didn't participate which gave us all something to celebrate after a long season of misery.


However you try and dress it up, the decline and neglection of the football team since moving out of WHL has been Shameful. You know this, you're just not able to acknowledge it.
 
I think it all gets forgotten about apart from misty eyed supporters until the team are in the closing stages of the competition again at some point in the future.

I also think the next time we have a player akin to Harry Kane, Kane will be remembered regardless if that player wins a trophy with the team or not.

When Postecoglou's name is mentioned when the Europa League win is recalled in the future, that only buffoons will ignore the fact he got the sack the same season because the team had been utter shit.

By misty eyed Spurs fans, yes.

But then again there was over 250k people at the parade, you should probably ask them what's more memorable to them, going to that parade and seeing our heroes on stage who bought home a trophy, or getting 86 points and getting knocked out the League cup to Colchester, I think we know the answer to that.

Ange's name is written in the folklore of this club like it or not - sorry I don't make the rules here.

I find these mental gymnastics kind of cringe especially coming from someone who used to preach that the point of football is winning trophies - you've changed your tune, funny that!
 
Yeah. For losing the most league games in a season for like over 100 years

And losing more games than any other and not be relegated in Premier League history

And, of course, winning a competition the top 4 or 5 teams in each major league didn't participate which gave us all something to celebrate after a long season of misery.


However you try and dress it up, the decline and neglection of the football team since moving out of WHL has been Shameful. You know this, you're just not able to acknowledge it.

Already addressed all of this with McCOYS so pintless going over it again.

But you seemingly have ignored my post when I asked you this:

That one match happens to be pretty significant though don't you think?

That match was a difference in staying in a comp where we could realistically pick up a trophy, something that you continually used to criticise the club and the chairman for - I say used to because your narrative has somewhat shifted since May 21.

So what's more important now, trophies or top 4 finishes...?

:gallashmm:
 
I think you're missing the conversation trail. I was highlighting a hypocrisy, which I suspect you've also nibble on.


Interesting how everyone agrees that winning trophies isn't actually a gauge for success or improvement when you invert the conversation from "ENIC/Levy haven't improved the club because trophies"
:sonhmm: :sonpoint:
The rhetoric for the best part of a decade has been that trophies are all that matter. It was a stick to beat Levy with ad nauseam. We’ve just won the biggest trophy we’re ever likely to win (the biggest in our history apart from two league wins in 51 and 61).

And these clowns haven’t changed their narrative even a tiny bit.

They’re not serious people.
 
The rhetoric for the best part of a decade has been that trophies are all that matter. It was a stick to beat Levy with ad nauseam. We’ve just won the biggest trophy we’re ever likely to win (the biggest in our history apart from two league wins in 51 and 61).

And these clowns haven’t changed tbeir narrative even a tiny bit.

They’re not serious people.

Absolutely shameless behavior, funny and predictable though
 
By misty eyed Spurs fans, yes.

But then again there was over 250k people at the parade, you should probably ask them what's more memorable to them, going to that parade and seeing our heroes on stage who bought home a trophy, or getting 86 points and getting knocked out the League cup to Colchester, I think we know the answer to that.

Ange's name is written in the folklore of this club like it or not - sorry I don't make the rules here.

I find these mental gymnastics kind of cringe especially coming from someone who used to preach that the point of football is winning trophies - you've changed your tune, funny that!
The large turnout for the parade was impressive, I'll give you that but I do think it was the result of being starved of a trophy for so long, I'd guess many of them are too young to recall the previous trophy that the team won, Excluding the Audi and Tiger cups....

If you had the choice would you rather start next season with Ange Postecoglou and last season's team, or Pochettino with his team of around 2016/17 who didn't win a trophy?
 
The large turnout for the parade was impressive, I'll give you that but I do think it was the result of being starved of success for so long, I'd guess many of them are too young to recall the previous trophy that the team won, Excluding the Audi and Tiger cups....

if you had the choice would you rather start next season with Ange Postecoglou and last season's team, or Pochettino with his team of around 2016/17 who didn't win a trophy?

We are also a big club, not Liverpool or United size but but still very big. It shouldn’t surprise getting quarter of a million for a parade on a moments notice.

The 16/17 was the best football I have seen at this club bar none, it was outstanding, we beat the crap out of just about everyone that came to the lane that season. The trophy however had the bigger impact due to not winning something for so long, the humiliation, the ‘no trophies’ bollocks blow away, we can all try and pretend the laughter of other fans means little but that isn’t being honest. I would never want to see last season repeated, it was pure shit football wise but we got the monkey off our back so it was relief.
 
The large turnout for the parade was impressive, I'll give you that but I do think it was the result of being starved of a trophy for so long, I'd guess many of them are too young to recall the previous trophy that the team won, Excluding the Audi and Tiger cups....

If you had the choice would you rather start next season with Ange Postecoglou and last season's team, or Pochettino with his team of around 2016/17 who didn't win a trophy?

Of course I'd start with Poch's team but If I had a choice between winning something than not I'd take winning something, isn't that what you would do?
 
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