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ENIC In or ENIC Out

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Shadydan said:
Because the energy isn't consistent online, as I said when things go wrong people are having meltdowns galore and this place is buzzing with noise, when we win though and when things are looking up its tumbleweed in here, some even stay away from this place and don't log in until the narrative shifts to negativity funnily enough.

Hence why I mentioned him going to a match to support the team, as it co-incided with inconsistent online fake outrage.
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Yeah I think you’re referencing JT and I don’t condone him going missing, TBH i think it’s embarrassing.

But on the flip side of course the energy changes when we win / don’t, football is pretty emotive - that’s to be expected right? The narrative is always dictated by results.

I don’t think that changes the underlying sentiment of people that think ENIC have either done a good job or bad job, there’s just a time and a place to discuss these things.
 
GDG said:
Yeah I think you’re referencing JT and I don’t condone him going missing, TBH i think it’s embarrassing.

But on the flip side of course the energy changes when we win / don’t, football is pretty emotive - that’s to be expected right? The narrative is always dictated by results.

I don’t think that changes the underlying sentiment of people that think ENIC have either done a good job or bad job, there’s just a time and a place to discuss these things.
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You see though that is ultimately my point. You've hit the nail on the head, football is entirely emotive and feelings are dictated by results and performances however the vast majority of people use ENIC as a source of their frustrations and thus the protestations aren't actually real.

I think there's a very small minority that actually want ENIC gone in fact I'd wager (despite whas that stupid poll says) that most people want to stick with these owners but want them to do a lot better and actually stick to a plan, no one can really want these owners gone because they don't know who or what will replace them.

But anyways it's all moot, these owners aren't going anywhere anytime soon so these online protests are kinda futile, I think it's fine to be frustrated at them and their lack of competence at times but the online spamming if the same old tired rhetoric gets a bit long in the tooth especially when you don't keep the same energy when they actually do something good.
 
Shadydan said:
Lol what nonsense...Those 70k and 50k were the same fans spamming crap every day online about their owners were they?

Talk about a false equivalence
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You're talking out of your ass again. :pocheyes:

You asked why someone who is ENIC out would go to watch Spurs every week. And the reason is the same that Man Utd and Newcastle fans support / supported their team through the Glazers and Ashley.....every week!

Or Liverpool fans through Gillette/Hicks.....every week!

I've exposed your argument for the stupidity it is and you know it.

Just take the beating and move on, yeah?
 
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Tottenham Massive said:
You're talking out of your ass again. :pocheyes:

You asked why someone who is ENIC out would go to watch Spurs every week. And the reason is the same that Man Utd and Newcastle fans support / supported their team through the Glazers and Ashley.....every week!

Or Liverpool fans through Gillette/Hicks.....every week!

I've exposed your argument for the stupidity it is and you know it.

Just take the beating and move on, yeah?
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Oh God, it's so painful having to dumb my argument down for a complete simpleton.

Your argument only works if you know that those 70k fans are/were all venemently <their board> out, you don't hence why it's a false equivalence.

Just grouping them as Newcastle fans or Man Utd fans has nothing to do with folk like Kosher who spams the same old BS constantly online.

It also has nothing to do with you who is obviously a part time 'fan' (if I can call you that) and gets more joy out of the board doing something wrong and thus reflects badly on the club compared to when we are successful.

Hence why your comparison is shit.

But ultimately by you referencing those fans who turn up week in week out is just proving my point because their protests didn't and don't reach anywhere near those numbers and the same amount of fans who turned up week in week out for those clubs were far more than who attended those protests.

Is it getting through to you yet?

Read it a few times and actually comprehend it before you respond and try not to twist comments and take them out of context :thumbup:
 
Shadydan said:
Oh God, it's so painful having to dumb my argument down for a complete simpleton.

Your argument only works if you know that those 70k fans are/were all venemently <their board> out, you don't hence why it's a false equivalence.

Just grouping them as Newcastle fans or Man Utd fans has nothing to do with folk like Kosher who spams the same old BS constantly online.

It also has nothing to do with you who is obviously a part time 'fan' (if I can call you that) and gets more joy out of the board doing something wrong and thus reflects badly on the club compared to when we are successful.

Hence why your comparison is shit.

But ultimately by you referencing those fans who turn up week in week out is just proving my point because their protests didn't and don't reach anywhere near those numbers and the same amount of fans who turned up week in week out for those clubs were far more than who attended those protests.

Is it getting through to you yet?

Read it a few times and actually comprehend it before you respond and try not to twist comments and take them out of context :thumbup:
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You're argument hangs on the notion that the only people who disagree with L/E's custodianship of the club are the few who have demonstrated before matches, when it's obvious to anyone with even half a brain (eg me) that this isn't the case.
 
Shadydan said:
God also loves Daniel Levy, the man is absolutely cooking up a storm this Summer don't you think?

He's actually smashed it out the park this year actually, you lot were constantly. On at him to sack Ange, what happens he keeps him around and we win a trophy - something you and your ilk were adamant that we would never do under this regime ever again.

And now this Summer he is absolutely cooking, realising the error of his ways putting us folk to shame, you gotta love the man, truly!

Levy is king! 👑😍
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Because we have signed Kudus???

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tart said:
You're argument hangs on the notion that the only people who disagree with L/E's custodianship of the club are the few who have demonstrated before matches, when it's obvious to anyone with even half a brain (eg me) that this isn't the case.
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It's quite frankly ridiculous. He's essentially saying that the 70,000 who turn up at Old Trafford must be 'Glazers In' or wanting new owners should disqualify someone from supporting their team.
I've read some nonsense on here but this is right up there
 
Tottenham Massive said:
It's quite frankly ridiculous. He's essentially saying that the 70,000 who turn up at Old Trafford must be 'Glazers In' or wanting new owners should disqualify someone from supporting their team.
I've read some nonsense on here but this is right up there
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No, I've explained what I meant, it's not my fault your tiny brain struggles with a fairly simple concept.
 
Shadydan said:
God also loves Daniel Levy, the man is absolutely cooking up a storm this Summer don't you think?

He's actually smashed it out the park this year actually, you lot were constantly. On at him to sack Ange, what happens he keeps him around and we win a trophy - something you and your ilk were adamant that we would never do under this regime ever again.

And now this Summer he is absolutely cooking, realising the error of his ways putting us folk to shame, you gotta love the man, truly!

Levy is king! 👑😍
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Keep up the trolling mate lol
 
I’d suggest it’s the case that if you care enough about getting rid of ENIC and you also attend the matches, that’s perfectly normal. Your dislike of the owners shouldn’t stop you going to the game.

If you care enough to get rid of ENIC, attend the matches, but don’t take part in the protests, that’s not normal.
 
GDG said:
Yeah I think you’re referencing JT and I don’t condone him going missing, TBH i think it’s embarrassing.

But on the flip side of course the energy changes when we win / don’t, football is pretty emotive - that’s to be expected right? The narrative is always dictated by results.

I don’t think that changes the underlying sentiment of people that think ENIC have either done a good job or bad job, there’s just a time and a place to discuss these things.
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Posters can go missing on here it's not a job to post on here no matter what happens. JT disappeared for a week - Shady sodded off for a month not so long ago and that's the second time Shady has done this. I couldn't care less if Shady buggers off for months on end.I do think it's a bit rich to have a go at JT constantly 🤔 for going awol for a week. I grant you the timing wasn't great but we all have lives away from the forum and JT doesn't have to justify himself to strangers on a forum.
 
AberdeenYid said:
I’d suggest it’s the case that if you care enough about getting rid of ENIC and you also attend the matches, that’s perfectly normal. Your dislike of the owners shouldn’t stop you going to the game.

If you care enough to get rid of ENIC, attend the matches, but don’t take part in the protests, that’s not normal.
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Do you think it is at all possible that a growing number of Spurs supporters have become increasingly disillusioned with ENIC and Levy over the duration of their 24 year tenure?

Think of each season, since 2001, as a train station where different people got off; year after year.

Maybe it was the sacking of Hoddle or the sale of Carrick?

Maybe the sacking of Jol or the sale of Berbatov?

Maybe the sacking of Harry Redknapp and the sale of Modric and Bale?

Maybe it was the sacking of Poch and the sale of Kane?

Maybe it was the cumulative effect of all or some of these things?

Maybe it was none of these things but you were priced out of it?

Maybe you had your senior concession ticket taken away?

People have the right to get back on the train too if they like.

That is how I see it.

I think the majority of Spurs supporters have now had enough of ENIC and Levy.

I don't believe that is a controversial point of view in 2025 for all of the reasons stated above.

I also accept that could change if ENIC and Levy change their approach.

They will need to do better and deliver sustained success on the pitch rather than talking about it though.
 
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