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Whilst having more money definitely helps. The most important part is always how you use it.

Absolutely. Which is the point people are, seemingly, intentionally ignoring.

The most successful clubs make good transfers. They aren't doing that based purely on high wages - the only correlation is that successful players eventually earn more and more. But the best performing players in the league aren't sorted by wages or transfer fees.

The issue with fans is that they tend to look retrospectively and determine value in the rear view mirror, ignoring that for every Ekitike there's a Kolo Muani
 
Or to use our own players as an example: For every Son there's a Ndombele.

Yeah - I think our 'effective' signings have been "cheap levy punts" (Eriksen, Alderweireld and Van der Vaart) and our worst ones have been the types we'd typically be jealous of - the exciting performers from other leagues like Soldado, Romero, Ndombele, Davinson, who we were allegedly poaching from under the noses of top european teams. Today's exciting signing is tomorrows obvious disaster.
 
And then they sold Johnson while all our other RW options were injured (and its not like Kulusevski and Kudus are elite to begin with), and bought...Conor Gallagher.

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ENIC are the problem. They don't have enough money to run a club with the ambition of Spurs. Until they sell (which I don't expect any time soon) nothing will change. They don't have the liquid capital to compete in this era, even if they wanted to.

In terms of ownership group net worth, we're already bottom half, within the next couple ownership changes we'll be in the bottom quarter of the league. As no one is serious about FFP/PSR, having poorer ownership than the competition is a massive handicap.
I'm not stating the Lewis clan are any better than Levy but I think you're wrong, Johnson was sold in the January transfer window, IIRC Odobert wasn't injured until the 10th February vs Newcastle. So there was a RW when Johnson was sold.

I'm unsure if you're debating with me or not, my recent posts on the thread aren't asking for the club's owners to spend more money, the club has spent more on transfers since 2020 than PSG have. My point is that I would like the owners/chairman to use the available capital more like PSG do, with spending less on transfers and more on salaries.

AFAIK Gallagher and Simons are our first players to be signed on £200,000 a week (approx) since Ndombele, and along with Romero we now have three players on £200k pw so there has been a slight diversion of funds towards player salaries but it's not enough.

We have the 9th largest revenue in world football, and according to a website that I posted a link to on the thread recently we're 4th in transfer spends since 2020.
 
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I'm not stating the Lewis clan are any better than Levy but I think you're wrong, Johnson was sold in the January transfer window, IIRC Odobert wasn't injured until the 10th February vs Newcastle. So there was a RW when Johnson was sold.

I'm unsure if you're debating with me or not, my recent posts on the thread aren't asking for the club's owners to spend more money, the club has spent more on transfers since 2020 than PSG have. My point is that I would like the owners/chairman to use the available capital more like PSG do, with spending less on transfers and more on salaries.

AFAIK Gallagher and Simons are our first players to be signed on £200,000 a week (approx) since Ndombele, and along with Romero we now have three players on £200k pw so there has been a slight diversion of funds towards player salaries but it's not enough.

We have the 9th largest revenue in world football, and according to a website that I posted a link to on the thread recently we're 4th in transfer spends since 2020.
Yeah I don't buy this idea that nothing has changed post-Levy. If they didn't want change they would've just kept Levy in place and it would be business as usual.

The fact Joe Lewis is no longer in control, there was an independent audit, Levy was kicked to the curb and a ton of new execs brought it...all of that indicates change.

Add in the additional investment, increased spending on salaries and clear change of approach in messaging (Vina openly saying we want to spend more on salaries) it all indicates things aren't the same as they were over the past 2 decades under Levy.

However, there are obviously still major reasons to have doubts:

a) The Lewis kids seem completely clueless and we may well be run even worse moving forward. Them putting Vinai and Lange in charge may well to us getting relegated and then we're fecked regardless.

b) We're still somewhat restrained financially restrained compared to some clubs. Even if we change our approach, there's always gonna be a limit to what we can spend so no guarantees of big, meaningful change while ENIC are in charge.

I simply do not buy this argument that nothing has changed when we've literally just sacked the guy that was single handedly making almost of the decisions for 20 years, though.
 
I'm not stating the Lewis clan are any better than Levy but I think you're wrong, Johnson was sold in the January transfer window, IIRC Odobert wasn't injured until the 10th February vs Newcastle. So there was a RW when Johnson was sold.

I'm unsure if you're debating with me or not, my recent posts on the thread aren't asking for the club's owners to spend more money, the club has spent more on transfers since 2020 than PSG have. My point is that I would like the owners/chairman to use the available capital more like PSG do, with spending less on transfers and more on salaries.

AFAIK Gallagher and Simons are our first players to be signed on £200,000 a week (approx) since Ndombele, and along with Romero we now have three players on £200k pw so there has been a slight diversion of funds towards player salaries but it's not enough.

We have the 9th largest revenue in world football, and according to a website that I posted a link to on the thread recently we're 4th in transfer spends since 2020.
Not really debating with you, point is just I feel a lot of people get carried away with casting Levy as the issue and expecting things to change. Obviously things won't be identical, I'm sure Vinai has his own preference for toilet paper. But I will be surprised if there are any significant changes.

We are eventually going to pay players £200kpw. But from what I've seen Simons & Romero are on £195kpw, and Gallagher £160kpw.

Of course, £200kpw is less impressive when you consider its not even top 25 in the league these days.

Anyway, long summer to complain about our shite owners. Focusing on tomorrow.

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Only words I want to hear from these parasites are "we're sorry" and "goodbye".
They'll never apologize and mean it...gotta be human for that.

Long as they get the hell out, that's all that matters.

But I really don't see it...still too much money to be made on the club's back. Them bloodsuckers won't leave til they got the very last drop.

If cancer was an ownership group...
 
I simply do not buy this argument that nothing has changed when we've literally just sacked the guy that was single handedly making almost of the decisions for 20 years, though.

Nothing has changed on the pitch, we've been as bad as we were last season, and the January transfer window wasn't inspiring. Perhaps things are changing in the club's structure but as of now it hasn't meant anything.
 
Not really debating with you, point is just I feel a lot of people get carried away with casting Levy as the issue and expecting things to change. Obviously things won't be identical, I'm sure Vinai has his own preference for toilet paper. But I will be surprised if there are any significant changes.

We are eventually going to pay players £200kpw. But from what I've seen Simons & Romero are on £195kpw, and Gallagher £160kpw.

Of course, £200kpw is less impressive when you consider its not even top 25 in the league these days.

Anyway, long summer to complain about our shite owners. Focusing on tomorrow.

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IDK then, I got the information about Gallagher's weekly salary on this webpage.

''Tottenham have made Conor Gallagher their highest-paid player with wages of around £200,000 per week, marking a significant shift from the club's traditionally conservative salary structure.''

More on Tribuna.com:
 
Nothing has changed on the pitch, we've been as bad as we were last season, and the January transfer window wasn't inspiring. Perhaps things are changing in the club's structure but as of now it hasn't meant anything.
It won't ever lead to football success.

All that restructuring they (supposedly) are doing is just so that they can milk the club even more, make even more commercial deals, events etc.
 
Hope they fear for their wellbeing come 6pm, win or lose
Obviously I don't wish them harm and I don't condone violence. But even if we stay up, that pitch gotta be stormed at the end...no destruction, no stealing, no fighting with security etc, but get onto that pitch in major numbers and voice your disgust as loud and for as long as possible.

Stands gotta be very vocal throughout the 90+ mins too.

Enough is enough. Only fans can save the club.
 
Nothing has changed on the pitch, we've been as bad as we were last season, and the January transfer window wasn't inspiring. Perhaps things are changing in the club's structure but as of now it hasn't meant anything.
Yeah of course - we didnt sack Levy until after the window closed. There's only been 1 window to elicit proper change.

And actually it has meant something on the pitch as we decided to be cute in Jan when relegation was a threat. Levy is guilty of many sins but he's certainly not one to risk his personal wealth by being cocky about relegation. He would've been a lot more decisive and spent more to secure survival given the stakes. Vinai and Lange can get another job if Spurs go down - Levy stands to potentially lose a huge chunk of his personal wealth if Spurs' valuation tanks due to relegation.

So yeah - there has been change on the pitch. We've gotten worse.
 
Yeah of course - we didnt sack Levy until after the window closed. There's only been 1 window to elicit proper change.
And actually it has meant something on the pitch as we decided to be cute in Jan when relegation was a threat. Levy is guilty of many sins but he's certainly not one to risk his personal wealth by being cocky about relegation. He would've been a lot more decisive and spent more to secure survival given the stakes. Vinai and Lange can get another job if Spurs go down - Levy stands to potentially lose a huge chunk of his personal wealth if Spurs valuation tanks due to relegation. So yeah - there has been change on the pitch. We've got worse.

What if Levy attempted to purchase ENIC's shares in Spurs, with other people's money, after relegation?

What would you think then?

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For me this is Daniel Levy's team on the pitch.

In my opinion the vast majority of the groundwork for the disaster that has unfolded this season is not on Lange, Vinai or ENIC without Levy.

It's mostly been Levy's work since he knocked down WHL and put Paul Mitchell on gardening leave.

A decade of regression under Levy and one transfer window without the prick?

He payed himself 5.7 million a year ago and was then sacked for being shit at his job.

Have any other football club in the world offered Levy a directors job?
 
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It won't ever lead to football success.

All that restructuring they (supposedly) are doing is just so that they can milk the club even more, make even more commercial deals, events etc.
If we stay up, we're going to need to invest a lot in the squad this summer or we can forget about the top section of the table.

GK LB RB Creative player/LW CF, most likely CB assuming Dragusin and Romero both leave, one of Richarlison or Solanke needs to go and be replaced with a general upgrade in that position. Don't ask me who, I don't know.
 
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What if Levy attempted to purchase ENIC's shares in Spurs, with other people's money, after relegation?

What would you think then?

:gallashmm:

For me this is Daniel Levy's team on the pitch.

In my opinion the vast majority of the groundwork for the disaster that has unfolded this season is not on Lange, Vinai or ENIC without Levy.

It's mostly been Levy's work since he knocked down WHL and put Paul Mitchell on gardening leave.

A decade of regression under Levy and one transfer window without the prick?

He payed himself 5.7 million a year ago and was then sacked for being shit at his job.

Have any other football club in the world offered Levy a directors job?
I wasn't trying to defend Levy. He's obviously massively to blame for the mess we're in.

I was talking about one very specific window and situation in which Levy would've been heavily incentivised to splash the cash had he still been in charge.

It's more an indictment of Lange's incompetence than a defence of Levy.

As for the other chairman stuff - he's 64, has most of his wealth tied up in Spurs and is filthy rich. He'll float around doing consultancy wank but he'll never work as a chairman again imo.

And Levy isn't gonna try and buy out ENIC with a consortium or something. That's just nonsense.
 
Yeah of course - we didnt sack Levy until after the window closed. There's only been 1 window to elicit proper change.

And actually it has meant something on the pitch as we decided to be cute in Jan when relegation was a threat. Levy is guilty of many sins but he's certainly not one to risk his personal wealth by being cocky about relegation. He would've been a lot more decisive and spent more to secure survival given the stakes. Vinai and Lange can get another job if Spurs go down - Levy stands to potentially lose a huge chunk of his personal wealth if Spurs' valuation tanks due to relegation.

So yeah - there has been change on the pitch. We've gotten worse.
Ha, sure, I did mean nothing has changed on the pitch which reflects the information put out about the Lewis clan from Peter Charrington shortly after Levy was sacked, regarding improving the actual football team.

Actually now that I've come to think of it. why would they sack Levy after the transfer window? I suppose it gives them the leeway of not having to show improvement until the end of this coming summer transfer window, because apart from Gallagher and Souza it's still Levy's players.
 
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