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It'd been a long time of mediocre. They thought they ought to have been better, but since have found out they should have been happy with what they had.

(Sound like anyone we know?)

Don't get the Everton hate expressed by some. Half a dozen clubs, at least, I'd rather see drop before Everton.

Still, I'd be somewhat disappointed if I were blue scouse and heard the new owners wanted to hire Moyes. But he'd probably stabilize them mid-table, at least. Better him than fucking Mourinho...please don't anyone bring him back to England.

By rights they SHOULD have been relegated 2 years ago.

All that crying about the points deduction they got last season; they got off lightly.
 
Moyes coached 516 games for Everton, and all managers (full-time/interim) since he departed coached 516 games for Everton.

516 games (2002-2013) -- 217 wins
  • David Moyes = 516
516 games (2013-2025) -- 199 wins
  • 0 + 140 (Roberto Martinez) = 140
  • 140 + 1 (David Unsworth) = 141
  • 141 + 58 (Ronald Koeman) = 199
  • 199 + 8 (David Unsworth) = 207
  • 207 + 26 (Sam Allardyce) = 233
  • 233 + 60 (Marco Silva) = 293
  • 293 + 4 (Duncan Ferguson) = 297
  • 297 + 67 (Carlo Ancelotti) = 364
  • 364 + 22 (Rafael Benitez) = 386
  • 386 + 1 (Duncan Ferguson) = 387
  • 387 + 43 (Frank Lampard) = 430
  • 430 + 85 (Sean Dyche) = 515
  • 515 + 1 (Leighton Baines/Seamus Coleman) = 516
 
Dyche had to go the football was dire and any Everton fan saying that they should not of sacked him could not of been going the game.
As for bringing Moyes back I am totally underwhelmed by the appointment.Not because of how he left and stuff done and said at that time all thats all in the past now, I was glad to see him go 11 years ago and bringing him back seems like replacing one dinosaur with another.
I will of course continue going the games and support him and the team and hope i am proved wrong.
 
Dyche had to go the football was dire and any Everton fan saying that they should not of sacked him could not of been going the game.
As for bringing Moyes back I am totally underwhelmed by the appointment.Not because of how he left and stuff done and said at that time all thats all in the past now, I was glad to see him go 11 years ago and bringing him back seems like replacing one dinosaur with another.
I will of course continue going the games and support him and the team and hope i am proved wrong.

It's a backwards appointment, such a lack of ambition.

You'll stay up, struggle next season, sack Moyes, bring in a pragmatic coach, stay up, rinse and repeat.

Locked in a cycle of dire football where the aim is simply to stay in the division. Not saying relegation would be a good thing but at some point your club needs to take some risks and make football fun again.

Should've tried to convince McKenna to leave Ipswich imo.
 
They sack Dyche because the football's unadventurous and dull, only to replace him with... ...Moyes!!!

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Not saying relegation would be a good thing but at some point your club needs to take some risks and make football fun again.
TBF, they took a lot of risks recently. Lucky to have survived those risks by all accounts.

I don't think it's as terrible an appointment as it seems. Moyes had Spam in and around the European places.

Like his time at Everton, he seems to be a victim of his own success. Skilled at taking a midtable club and elevating it into that squeeze point between midtable and CL so consistently that the midtable club begins to believe it should be higher than it is...then after he's gone, they realize what good work he was doing.
 
Did Everton get any write off on their debt or did the new owners assume it all.
I’ve read we still owe 800 million for our stadium.
I read they were 1 billion in debt but the article didn’t say who owns their new stadium.
It would be very unfair to us that we are saddled with debt yet they can walk away from theirs. How does that like up with ffp?
 
It's a backwards appointment, such a lack of ambition.

You'll stay up, struggle next season, sack Moyes, bring in a pragmatic coach, stay up, rinse and repeat.

Locked in a cycle of dire football where the aim is simply to stay in the division. Not saying relegation would be a good thing but at some point your club needs to take some risks and make football fun again.

Should've tried to convince McKenna to leave Ipswich imo.
Cant disagree with any of that and would have been happy with McKenna
 
Did Everton get any write off on their debt or did the new owners assume it all.
I’ve read we still owe 800 million for our stadium.
I read they were 1 billion in debt but the article didn’t say who owns their new stadium.
It would be very unfair to us that we are saddled with debt yet they can walk away from theirs. How does that like up with ffp?

The stadium was being built with 3rd party debt with a charge being lodged against the stadium.

So its almost impossible for Everton to have been able to write off any debt secured on stadium - totally different to loans made to club (which is different legal entity)

And yes Spurs do owe something like a billion on our stadium - but its funded through bonds which on average are not repayable in under 20 years and at very low interest rates (circa 2.8% interest rates) so doesn't really impinge on the club financially
 
Have to be honest, I've always seen Everton as the Spurs of the north. Have to put up with some total cringe as local rivals (where you are literally 95% likely not to win away from home), owned by total muppets who don't/didn't have a clue how to run a bath let alone a football club, signed transfer duds you could see a mile off, and just fed a circle of PL shite and nonsense cup exits.

Classic old school ground that could really rock once the home fans found their voice. No matter where Everton are in the table, I'm always wary of a Goodison Park trip. Used to think old WHL had the same aura.

Above all our fanbases really have deserved so much better over the last 30 years as one of the original 'big five'. We may have had the CL runs but they at least have a PL era FA Cup win (damn that semi-final...) we can't even reach the final anymore... we can't even beat Tamworth in 90 mins.

I'm very interested in Moyes 2.0. Will be a decent case study to measure if a similar Poch return has any merit (for the record still a no to MP from me).
 
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